Just went by the local cemetery and they have banners out for a sale. Buy 1 lot get 1 free with 12 months to pay 0 interest. I don’t think this is a good sign on the economy. Fewer people can afford a full funeral and are going to cremation as a more cost affective solution. So no need for a cemetery plot.
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Intestinal Fortitude
Have Faith
Aquamation, another alternative.
Just had a friend who passed and chose this option.
Just had a friend who passed and chose this option.
Buick Electra
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I know more and more people that are getting cremated b/c it's cheaper.
jed turtle
a brother in the Lord
A friend pointed me to a friend‘s website in maine. Turns out maine still allows family burial grounds, if you have a minimum amount of acreage, and allows natural “green” burials (ie: no cement vault, no toxic “funeral fluids”) and a few other minimal requirements. Having met all the requirements it was less expensive than even cremation and more natural and religiously acceptable by my dearly departed wife some years back. Unfortunately her daughter started asking about what happened to her mom’s iPhone which disappeared right about the time of the wake and burial. There are lingering questions about whether her mom managed to take it with her…
cat killer
Senior Member
If I'm cremated I'll haunt whoever was responsible for it forever.
Intestinal Fortitude
Have Faith
. . . goes to voice mail . . .
pauldingbabe
The Great Cat
I know of a few folks that died in the past 5 years who's family surrendered the body to science because they didn't have the $$$ for burial nor cremation.
No way I would want to be buried.. cremation please! Once your immediate children are gone, nobody cares about your grave. You will eventually end up paved over for a runway/strip mall or dug up to make bookends out of your skull.... as it is quite apparent that the civilization that values the dead will be surpassed by the 65 IQ practitioners of voodoo!
Blacknarwhal
Let's Go Brandon!
Cremation, yes indeed. Cheaper, more effective, and that old body just doesn't matter so much any more.
SlipperySlope
Veteran Member
I just sold my family plots a year ago. They were gifted to me when I was barely out of my teens, for Christmas in 1978 by a practical Aunt. She paid $600 for four spaces in a row in a beautiful historic city maintained cemetery. DH died 3 years ago and wanted to be cremated, so I knew I wouldn't need all the spaces. I sold them for $10,000 last year. Apparently folks are "dying" to get places in that cemetery and they can't add any more spaces now. A row of four in the historic district is valuable. You can still have monuments etc. and there are many huge old trees in it. That was my best real estate investment ever. Percentagewise it beat what I made on my home sale.
Griz3752
Retired, practising Curmudgeon
Yes indeed but most jurisdictions I've lived in prohibit interment any where but an actual cemetery. cremains or complete remains.
Want your ashes spread on the wind at your fav fishing hole? Bureaucratic red tape and often, fees.
My last FIL?We commissioned a bench w/ a plaque in a quiet spot where he & my MIL would sit and chat. When he passed, we had him cremated (his wishes) and my BIL & I dug a neat little hole under the bench. One Saturday we took a picnic of his favs and adequate libations and had our own ceremony in a Provincial Park.
Sparky landed on D-Day and spent WWII fighting through the Low Countries.
Thunderdragon
Senior Member
My family had been in same county since mid 1800’s. I know of three cemeteries where decent size Plots were purchased…and two of them have not had anyone who Used the plots since the 1970s and 1980s. They are at end of line …ancestors long gone who would in theory use them someday. I think I am the last remaining ancestor who even knows about them…. But yea…multiple plots purchased 130 years ago and over half of them will never be used.
Squib
Veteran Member
Or worse yet, it’s answered!
bbbuddy
DEPLORABLE ME
When my mom was 98 and going downhill she asked if she could be buried at our place.
I called the county and set up a private family cemetery on our land. It cost $10.
She is buried here. Near where we already had our pets buried. So the whole area is about 100x80' if I remember right.
We plan to be cremated and urns buried there. With headstones.
My pets each have their names engraved on a flat rock on their spots.
My neighbors tried to do the same thing and were turned down. Maybe we were the last able to do it.
I was warned that it could lower the value of our place. I won't care.
But I'll make sure that family can be buried there in the future, as part of any sale.
I called the county and set up a private family cemetery on our land. It cost $10.
She is buried here. Near where we already had our pets buried. So the whole area is about 100x80' if I remember right.
We plan to be cremated and urns buried there. With headstones.
My pets each have their names engraved on a flat rock on their spots.
My neighbors tried to do the same thing and were turned down. Maybe we were the last able to do it.
I was warned that it could lower the value of our place. I won't care.
But I'll make sure that family can be buried there in the future, as part of any sale.
jed turtle
a brother in the Lord
An obituary just announces to the world that nobody is home when you are gone to work. Might find the place full of squatters by the time you get home…
BH
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My mom gave me a paid for cremation many years ago as a birthday present. We have a family plot purchased by my mom's dad's family back in the 1930s. We all have stones already in place, only the death dates need to added. Mom bought all our stones when my dad passed. Later, my mom and I visited the cemetary and we actually danced on our own graves.
Personally, I want to be scattered in the wind with none of my remains buried.
Personally, I want to be scattered in the wind with none of my remains buried.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
And this is some kind of ISSUE!!?????
Kentucky as well if you jump through their hoops. Or they did when my uncle passed about a decade ago.
The funeral industry has problems. But they are also hamstrung by a bunch of regulations.
If you get cremated you can always go the fireworks route. Heard that it started when a person wanted their ashes spread on their favorite lake it was verboten by the powers that be for ecological reasons. A nephew who worked for a fireworks company knew that you have to have so much filler between stages of fireworks made several with the ashes. They wanted till every one could come back for a family gathering. Had a private fireworks show and the ashes were all scattered over the lake with out anyone’s knowledge and a new industry was born. There are many listings on google.
Macgyver
Has No Life - Lives on TB
People diy that and put the creamains in shotgun shells.
CaryC
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Same here.
And to the point of no one cares after you're gone........
That may be regional.
Here in my corner of MS, we have what we call memorial day for several cemeteries on consecutive Sundays in July and August, think there is one in Sept. Lots and lots of people bring wreaths, to put on graves, and go by the tents and give a donation for the upkeep of the cemetery, like fences, mowing, etc. All the money goes into a trust.
All of my family going back to the mid 1800's are buried in two of them. Granted we can't afford to put flowers on all the grandparents, but a visit, and respect is certainly due. All we do is my mom and dad. Flowers are high dollar.
SB has family going back nearly that far, in two other cemeteries. But only one has memorial day. Still only on parents graves. And visit others.
2nd to that, one of the things in life that everyone will experience is death, not having an insurance policy in some fashion, to cover that is just not right. IMHO Whether that's cremation or burial.
Me and SB both want to be among our families. Marring me, she will join me in my families cemetery. Already have the plots and paid for. What ever you plan for when you die, you really need to get it settled and paid for now. It will be your last respondsibility.
SlipperySlope
Veteran Member
CaryC we have memorial days around here too. Usually a. Sunday around Mothers Day. It is a charming custom.
When DH and I bought this place we were going to set aside about an acre for a family cemetery. It is very easy to do around here. We talked to son and his wife about it and there were horrified. That kind of ruined the idea of a family plot. DH is still on the mantle waiting to be put with me when I go.
When DH and I bought this place we were going to set aside about an acre for a family cemetery. It is very easy to do around here. We talked to son and his wife about it and there were horrified. That kind of ruined the idea of a family plot. DH is still on the mantle waiting to be put with me when I go.
Loretta Van Riet
Trying to hang out with the cool kids.
The kindest gift my parents left to us was their FULLY PAID FOR Funeral expenses! We just had to make a phone call and provide the viewing clothes.
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
You can still have family plots in MS. Know of several. SB's first cousin has one.
I think, note: I think, that you have to deed over the cemetery to the state. That's probably to keep someone else from buying the land and plowing the graves under, or building a house on top. Poltergeist comes to mind.
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Back to rough times, a story:
My dad was a cook on a hospital train in England, during WWII. The train faired the wounded from the English Channel ports up to Glasgow Scotland. He was in the train waiting for the wounded on D-day.
During the ride, in between shifts, he would talk to some of the wounded. Dad and another guy were watching the country side past when they went by a cemetery. The other guy told dad, back home he was a mortician.
Dad asked him if he ever wished business would pick up.
He said yeah.
I don't think the guy wanted more people to die just that more business would come his way.
so being rough for morticians has been around for a long time, excepting of course during covid.
My dad was a cook on a hospital train in England, during WWII. The train faired the wounded from the English Channel ports up to Glasgow Scotland. He was in the train waiting for the wounded on D-day.
During the ride, in between shifts, he would talk to some of the wounded. Dad and another guy were watching the country side past when they went by a cemetery. The other guy told dad, back home he was a mortician.
Dad asked him if he ever wished business would pick up.
He said yeah.
I don't think the guy wanted more people to die just that more business would come his way.
so being rough for morticians has been around for a long time, excepting of course during covid.
Southside
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Yep, Mom wanted to do that in the last year. I never consented. My actual costs were 50% of the prepaid costs she was quoted.
She would have been proud!
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
That is a kind of "depends."
A life insurance policy paid by the parents, can cover the cost of a funeral, plot, headstone. Which will do what you did.
SB's parents bought a prepaid plan, outright, for 2,000.00 which was what a funeral was going for when they did it. Picked out the coffin, burial place and head stone, all in the "package".
do you know what a funeral "package" is going for today?
Like I said it kind of depends.
BTW SB's mother is still with us.
Southside
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You bet I know, just went through it. They wanted $2,895 for Cremation, death certs, notices. For a full blown funeral, 1 day visitation, etc would have been $10,775.
That gives you an idea of today's prepaid costs.
And it's wonderful you still have 1 left. Mine just passed last month.
CaryC
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Sorry for your loss.