Update on Sarah Palin email hacker (they know who now)

RobinYyes

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Closing in on the Palin e-mail hacker
michellemalkin.com ^ | 9/18/08 | Michelle Malkin


The Tennessean reports what blogs have been buzzing about all day:

The son of state Rep. Mike Kernell has been contacted by authorities in connection with a probe into the hacking of the personal e-mail of vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, Kernell confirmed on Thursday.

Kernell, a Memphis Democrat, said his 20-year-old son David had been contacted by authorities investigating the hacking of Palin’s personal email account.
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The FBI and the Secret Service started a formal investigation on Wednesday into the hacking.


David Kernell is a student at the University of Tennessee-Knoxville. Mike Kernell said he spoke to his son on Thursday, as he does on a regular basis.

Kernell otherwise declined to comment, or discuss his son’s whereabouts and whether he was in custody.



Turns out, his Father I believe is a State Chairman for “Tennessee for Obama”.

Can you say YAHOOGATE?
 

RobinYyes

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Fred, they know who it is, they just haven't formally charged him...yet. You can get that information from any dozen websites this afternoon. Michelle Malkin being one of them, she was more on top of this then just about anyone.
 

Fred

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Fred, they know who it is, they just haven't formally charged him...yet. You can get that information from any dozen websites this afternoon. Michelle Malkin being one of them, she was more on top of this then just about anyone.
I'm not saying he did it or didn't do it, I'm saying he should be tried in a real court, not the court of public opinion. Remember Steven Hatfill and Richard Jewell?

The law presumes a person is innocent until they're proven guilty.
 
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Desperado

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Memo to US Secret Service: Net proxy may pinpoint Palin email hackers
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/18/palin_email_investigation/
By Dan Goodin in San Francisco • Get more from this author

Posted in Security, 18th September 2008 01:22 GMT

Updated Memo to law enforcement investigators tracking down who broke into Sarah Palin's Yahoo email account: Gabriel Ramuglia might be a good place to start.

The 25-year-old webmaster and entrepreneur is the operator of Ctunnel.com, the browsing proxy service used by the group that hacked into the vice presidential candidate's personal email account and exposed its contents to the world. While he has yet to examine his logs, he says there's a good chance they will lead to those responsible, thanks to some carelessness on their part.

"Usually, this sort of thing would be hard to track down because it's Yahoo email, and a lot of people use my service for that," he told El Reg in a phone interview. "Since they were dumb enough to post a full screenshot that showed most of the [Ctunnel.com] URL, I should be able to find that in my log."

Ramuglia got into the proxy business a few years ago, after schools began blocking access to an online game site he used to co-own. Pretty soon, people began using the proxy service to access YouTube, Gmail, MySpace, and dozens of other sites that are routinely blocked by IT departments.

To prevent abuse of the service - such as the occasional bomb threat or other illegal act that's been known to happen - Ramuglia logs each user's IP address, along with the time and web destination. That often isn't enough to track down people who access extremely popular websites. But in this case, the perpetrators included a whole string of random-looking characters when posting screenshots of Palin's hacked account. That will probably be enough for him to pinpoint the proverbial needle in the haystack.

The information at the moment is on a server at a Chicago colocation site owned by FDC Servers. Logs are automatically flushed after seven days, so the clock is ticking for law enforcement, who presumably are under intense pressure to protect the privacy of a candidate for the White House. Of course, there's always the possibility that Ctunnel.com was only one of multiple anonymization services the email hackers used to cover their tracks, but there's only one way to find out.

Ramuglia said if he is contacted by law enforcement officials he will probably give them the information they seek. At time of writing, he's received no inquiries from any law enforcement agencies, he said.

The breach of Palin's account "is pretty clearly against my terms of service," he said. "As exciting as it is to be in the news, this is not the type of activity I can encourage by any means."

Update
Within hours of this story posting, Ramuglia received a phone call from an FBI special agent from the Anchorage, Alaska, field office.

"He just wanted to make sure I wasn't losing the logs," Ramuglia said, referring to the special agent. The two are scheduled to speak again soon to coordinate the turning over the logged information.

What's more, Wired.com has a story here detailing a now-removed post to the 4chan website in which a person claiming to the hacker who accessed Palin's email "used only a single proxy service to hide his IP address." Oops. ®
 

Navydad

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Robin I posted this to your old link. So I thought I had best post it again to your new thread.

Robin from the link you sent I was able to find this link to the Knoxville News Sentinel.

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/newre...y&noquote=1&p=

NASHVILLE - State Rep. Mike Kernell said today that he was aware of Internet rumors about his son being the subject of speculation that he accessed the personal e-mail of vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

Asked whether he or his son, a student at the University of Tennessee-Knoxville, had been contacted by authorities investigating the break-in of Palin's account, he responded:

"Me, no."

As far as his 20-year-old son, David, he said: "I can't say. That doesn't mean he has or hasn't (been contacted by investigators)."

Kernell, D-Memphis, cited the father-son relationship.

He said he had talked to his son today, but that he talks to his son regularly.

He declined further comment.

Attempts to reach the younger Kernell for comment were not successful.

The FBI and the Secret Service started a formal investigation Wednesday into the hacking, according to the Associated Press.

A first-hand account reported by the Associated Press suggested her account was vulnerable because a hacker was able to impersonate her online and obtain her passord.

The alleged hacker, using the e-mail address rubico10@yahoo.com, posted Wednesday to a forum on the website 4chan about how he used Yahoo! Mail's password-recovery tool to obtain the Alaska's governor password.

"i am the lurker who did it, and i would like to tell the story," rubico10@yahoo.com wrote.

The hacker guessed that Alaska's governor had met her husband in high school, and knew the Republican vice presidential candidate's date of birth and home Zip code, the Associated Press reported.

Using those details, the hacker tricked Yahoo Inc.'s service into assigning a new password, "popcorn," for Palin's e-mail account, according to a chronology of the crime published on the Web site where the hacking was first revealed.

Yahoo declined to comment today on details of the investigation, citing Palin's privacy and the sensitivity of such investigations, according to the Associated Press.

The person who claimed responsibility for the break-in did not respond Thursday to an e-mail inquiry from the Associated Press.

The break-in of Palin's private account is especially significant because Palin sometimes uses non-government e-mail to conduct state business. the Associated Press reported.

The Associated Press and Commercial Appeal of Memphis contributed to this story.

More details as they develop online and in Friday's News Sentinel.
 

Cascadians

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Nothing a person does is private. It can all be hacked, intercepted, trapped, tapped, taped, logged, recorded, etc. There's elaborate bugging and see-through-walls videocams. Privacy in this day and age is an illusion.
 

Zinnia

Constancy
If true,the lesson to be learned is-don't pull something like this against someone who has Secret Service protection.My husband predicted this would be solved in a day or two because of their involvement.

It was bad enough that this person hacked into Palin's e-mail account,but he posted the mail on line and put her daughter's phone number on line also,after calling the number to be sure it was correct.

The Secret Service gets all cranky about stunts like that.

For all of you who hate Palin,don't worry.As I understand it your boy will get a year in prison at most.Not sure how much in fines and expensive lawyers.
 

Navydad

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Fox said it was going to have more on this but I haven't seen it.

This was posted on the Fox News website.

Home | Sarah Palin
Palin E-mail Hacker Targeted Family and Staff, Investigators Say
by FOXNews.com
Thursday, September 18, 2008


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By Jana Winter

It looks like Sarah Palin wasn’t the only target of an online hacker. Law enforcement officials are investigating claims that the private e-mail accounts of the Republican vice presidential candidate’s family and staff were also compromised.

“Yesterday, the Department received a referral alleging that the personal e-mail accounts of Gov. Sarah Palin, her staff, and her family had been unlawfully hacked. The Department is reviewing the matter,” Justice Department spokeswoman Laura Sweeney said on Thursday.

The FBI and Secret Service launched a formal investigation on Wednesday into the hacking of one of Palin’s Yahoo! e-mail accounts. Yahoo! declined to comment Thursday on details of the investigation, citing Palin’s privacy and the sensitivity of such investigations.

The hacker who compromised Palin’s account used Ctunnel.com, an Internet proxy site, which renders Web users anonymous, to get into Palin’s e-mail. The site is run by Gabriel Ramuglia, 25, a Web developer from Athens, Ga., who said the hacker left behind revealing clues after posting screen grabs of Palin’s inbox. Ramuglia said he saw the screenshots and recognized his site. He is now working with the FBI to provide agents with his business logs to help identify the criminal.

“I should be able to find out who is involved by going through my logs,” he said. “The FBI called me last night and they wanted to know that the logs weren’t deleted — as long as they weren’t deleted — and they asked me to help, so I’m downloading them.”

Ramuglia said the FBI told him they also reached out to Yahoo! to ask for help. The hope is that information from Yahoo! can be matched with something in the proxy site’s logs, identifying the hacker. The logs from both Ctunnel.com and Yahoo! should be delivered to the FBI by Friday, Ramuglia said.

“As long as they didn’t use a second proxy, I should be able to find them,” Ramuglia said. “I don’t think they were careful enough to do that.”

Meanwhile, there is widespread speculation about who was behind the attack and what the motivation was.

Jose Nazario, a senior security engineer with Arbor Networks Inc., said he knows “through personal contacts” that members of the group Anonymous were involved in the Palin e-mail attack.

He said Anonymous is a loose network of a few dozen people who live in the United States and abroad and range from teenagers to 30-year-olds who share what he said is a “sociopathic sense of humor.”

“Anonymous sort of takes pride in doing this publicly and pissing people off. There are other groups that do this, but they aren’t as public about it,” Nazario said.

Also circulating the Internet is an on line confession signed with an e-mail address belonging to David Kernell, 20, from Memphis, Tenn. Kernell, a student at the University of Tennessee-Knoxville and described on various Web sites as a fan of chess and online gaming, is the son of Democratic state representative Mike Kernell. Calls and e-mails to both Kernells have not been returned.

The elder Kernell told the Tennessean newspaper Thursday that authorities have contacted his son, but he would not comment further.

The confession read: “i am the lurker who did it, and i would like to tell the story.” It continued to say that what started as a prank was cut short because of panic over the possibility the FBI might investigate, the hacker wrote.

The hacker said the he guessed that Alaska’s governor had met her husband in high school, and he or she knew Palin’s date of birth and home Zip code. Using those details, the hacker tricked Yahoo Inc.’s service into assigning a new password, “popcorn,” for Palin’s e-mail account.

“I found out later though (sic) more research that they met at high school, so I did variations of that, high, high school, eventually hit on ‘Wasilla high’,” said the Internet posting.

The McCain campaign said Wednesday that the attack was “a shocking invasion of the Governor’s privacy and a violation of law.”

“The matter has been turned over to the appropriate authorities and we hope that anyone in possession of these emails will destroy them. We will have no further comment,” the campaign said in a statement.

The break-in of Palin’s private account is especially significant because Palin sometimes uses non-government e-mail to conduct state business. Previously disclosed e-mails indicate her administration embraced Yahoo! accounts as an alternative to government e-mail, which could possibly be released to the public under Alaska’s Open Records Act.

At the time, critics of Palin’s administration were poring over official e-mails they had obtained from the governor’s office looking for evidence of improper political activity.
 

gelatinous

Eyes WIDE Open
I'm not saying he did it or didn't do it, I'm saying he should be tried in a real court, not the court of public opinion. Remember Steven Hatfill and Richard Jewell?

The law presumes a person is innocent until they're proven guilty.

Uh huh....right. So if your neighbor is accused of sexual molesting a child, your going to just treat him/her just like you always did? The "court of public opinion" probably would sway your actions in something like that wouldn't it?

In most sexually deviant crimes the perp is considered guilty by all until proven innocent, and then he/she still has to claim their innocence to anybody who knew them before being accused.

This kid is guilty and his circumstances show his motives.
 

SteverNV

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I'm a Democrat, and I've got no sympathy for the 20-year-old brat taking the blame for doing this. What kind of idiot would even think of doing such a thing? Oh, his dad's a local politico for Obama, so sonny thinks he can find a smoking gun and turn the election. It was bad enough the kid thought of doing such a stunt, but it became really criminal when he decided to publish his discoveries. Hope the young man goes to jail, and it's too bad they can't put dad there, too, for raising a simpleton.

For me, it makes more assured my vote for McCain in November. I just can't stomach the Obama zealots and their object of affection.
 

diamonds

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I'm not saying he did it or didn't do it, I'm saying he should be tried in a real court, not the court of public opinion. Remember Steven Hatfill and Richard Jewell?

The law presumes a person is innocent until they're proven guilty.

I am bookmarking this post:whistle:

I have seen so many threads started by you in which you automatically assume they are guilty.. I call them lets "castrate a cop" Fred thread... Then you also have a tendency to want to do the same to Palin.. I can even pull up a few threads just from the past few days where you think the information should be examined by the court of public opinion without any proof...

Now the question is why should this person get treated any different?
 
For all of you who hate Palin,don't worry.As I understand it your boy will get a year in prison at most.Not sure how much in fines and expensive lawyers.

This may be the wrong place to ask this, but how did Sarah Palin get to be such a hated woman when 99.9% of the public never heard of her until 3 weeks ago. She has commited no crimes nor has she killed anyone. All that she did was accept McCains offer to be his running mate.

How does that get Palin worthy of the seething, rage and hate we see from so many members here? I'd so love any explanation.

3 stinking weeks. I put up with Clinton for over 8 years, but he was just a sick leader, funny, but sick. I don't have rage about him.

Sorry for the drift Robin.


What sup with that?
 

Rams82

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This may be the wrong place to ask this, but how did Sarah Palin get to be such a hated woman when 99.9% of the public never heard of her until 3 weeks ago. She has commited no crimes nor has she killed anyone. All that she did was accept McCains offer to be his running mate.

How does that get Palin worthy of the seething, rage and hate we see from so many members here? I'd so love any explanation.

3 stinking weeks. I put up with Clinton for over 8 years, but he was just a sick leader, funny, but sick. I don't have rage about him.

Sorry for the drift Robin.


What sup with that?

She is a conservative Christian
 

RobinYyes

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no worries about the drift....its what Rams82 said.

She's a conservative Christian, unashamed, owes nothing to anyone, unafraid of ruffling feathers, or asking friends for prayer. She admires Ronald Reagan, and Margaret Thatcher, she readily admits mistakes, but is unwilling to be taken advantage of....She's against abortion AND backs that up with action.

Oh and Hilary gets that and is pretty much just staying out of the fray. That blows zero's (get in their face and attack on my behalf) theory up in smoke.
 

Warandra

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no worries about the drift....its what Rams82 said.

She's a conservative Christian, unashamed, owes nothing to anyone, unafraid of ruffling feathers, or asking friends for prayer. She admires Ronald Reagan, and Margaret Thatcher, she readily admits mistakes, but is unwilling to be taken advantage of....She's against abortion AND backs that up with action.

Oh and Hilary gets that and is pretty much just staying out of the fray. That blows zero's (get in their face and attack on my behalf) theory up in smoke.

Liar! Hillary has stated her point of view very well, for all to hear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIxYitgL1AQ
 

Warandra

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This may be the wrong place to ask this, but how did Sarah Palin get to be such a hated woman when 99.9% of the public never heard of her until 3 weeks ago. She has commited no crimes nor has she killed anyone. All that she did was accept McCains offer to be his running mate.

How does that get Palin worthy of the seething, rage and hate we see from so many members here? I'd so love any explanation.

3 stinking weeks. I put up with Clinton for over 8 years, but he was just a sick leader, funny, but sick. I don't have rage about him.

Sorry for the drift Robin.


What sup with that?

http://womenagainstsarahpalin.blogspot.com/
 

Grantbo

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When this first happened I automatically assumed it had something to do with the dems. I was right, of course. :ld:
 

Tristan

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This may be the wrong place to ask this, but how did Sarah Palin get to be such a hated woman when 99.9% of the public never heard of her until 3 weeks ago. She has commited no crimes nor has she killed anyone. All that she did was accept McCains offer to be his running mate.

How does that get Palin worthy of the seething, rage and hate we see from so many members here? I'd so love any explanation.

3 stinking weeks. I put up with Clinton for over 8 years, but he was just a sick leader, funny, but sick. I don't have rage about him.

Sorry for the drift Robin.


What sup with that?


For some reason, I get the feeling she scares the sh*t out of some on the left... it's the only logical reason I can see.

Some on the left consider this to be a battle, and I've also heard it (the election, and perhaps the aftermath) referred to as a *war* (for political control). If you feel that way, you can justify almost any act, right?

- Tristan
 

Rucus Sunday

Veteran Member
I'm not saying he did it or didn't do it, I'm saying he should be tried in a real court, not the court of public opinion. Remember Steven Hatfill and Richard Jewell?

The law presumes a person is innocent until they're proven guilty.
But since I'm not the law or a court of law, I'll go ahead and "try" whoever I want to, when I want to. Liberals aren't averse to doing that and more, and I don't want to feel left out of the process.
 

Zinnia

Constancy
Liar! Hillary has stated her point of view very well, for all to hear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIxYitgL1AQ

You have a lot of nerve to call someone a liar,when Robin was only stating her opinion.As for Hillary,only someone who's been living under a rock all these years would believe anything she and Bill ever say.

Every word they put out for public consumption is only for their own political beneift.

I'm of the opinion that whenever Hillary says anything positive or helpful where Obama is concerned,it's a big fat lie.

Obama,Hillary and their cabals are playing you, and others who think like you,the way they would a fiddle.

You must stop getting your talking points from DU and Daily Kos.Most of the rest of us are onto them and have no problem spotting their field agents.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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Liar! Hillary has stated her point of view very well, for all to hear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIxYitgL1AQ

OK. Let me male a couple of things crys-TAL clear.

First.
Your attitude and temperment on this board is beginning to wear on some nerves. One of those is *mine* and you do not want to do that.

Second.

Robin may have been misinformed or she *may* have been lying.

You posting of the Youtube link confirms Hillary has stated her position, HOWEVER, it does not in any way prove nor give cause for you to publically state a member is a liar without proof of that accusation.

I am stating it in public for all to see so there can be no accusations of backdoor dealings or 'You were not told'.

Lose the shit attitude at the door when you come here or leave. Either on your own or with my 'genteel' assitance.

Is that crystal?
 

skip8

Membership Revoked
This may be the wrong place to ask this, but how did Sarah Palin get to be such a hated woman when 99.9% of the public never heard of her until 3 weeks ago. She has commited no crimes nor has she killed anyone. All that she did was accept McCains offer to be his running mate.

How does that get Palin worthy of the seething, rage and hate we see from so many members here? I'd so love any explanation.

3 stinking weeks. I put up with Clinton for over 8 years, but he was just a sick leader, funny, but sick. I don't have rage about him.

Sorry for the drift Robin.

What sup with that?


I think the 'Women's Movement' as defined by the Left is the problem, and hence the outrage from the Left over Palin, regardless of her achievements, and maybe actually because of all her success.

Palin does not fit the Left's requirements...their 'litmus test'...to be a 'correct' feminist, and therefore she must be attacked. The Left's double standard is revealed. To get support from the 'Women's Movement' on the Left, a woman must be:

  • Liberal
  • Pro-Abortion
  • Pro-Gay Marriage
  • Anti-Attractiveness
  • Anti-Men
  • Anti-Military
  • Anti-2nd Amendment
Palin does not meet any of these prerequisites of the Left's Feminism. So no matter the level of her accomplishments...smashing the glass ceiling and all...it's not to be acknowledged, and must be condemned or ridiculed.

Which is what we're witnessing as the Left comes un-hinged. The Left sees the majority of the U.S. loves Palin, and celebrates her achievements without the Left's preconditions.

Therefore, Palin must be destroyed by the Left.

:mad:

Back to OP:

[TN] State rep says son focus of Palin e-mail hacking rumors

This was on Drudge, Thursday PM.
 
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It all reminds me of high school, the left that is, the simple jealous fits of rage and hormonal screamings.

When a pretty confident new girl walks into a new school, all the trailer trash, druggies and hell bent thugs want to take her out (not on a date either). The want to bully her to destruction.

Today is the 3rd week aniversary of Palin's "coming out" party. 21 days. They have hacked her e-mail, ripped up her children, remarked on her hideous voice, wished her DNA never was on earth and too many other nasty comments to even consider.

Dear God, she must be strong to put up with that. I think she is strong. Dear God has lots to do with that.

Okay, this is JMO too, but I'm entitled to that.

Sorry again Robin. It's my rant. And, if I ever offended you in any personnal way, know it wasn't meant to be that way. I think you are tops!
 

maric

Short but deadly
You've got a lot of nerve calling anyone a liar. Why not go start another hate thread and stop trolling on this one ok?

:applaud:
The left is obviously threatened by common sense and morals or they wouldn't be on this rampage of hate.
 

kozanne

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:applaud:
The left is obviously threatened by common sense and morals or they wouldn't be on this rampage of hate.

It is why I have most of them on ignore. However, posturing to the degree that Warandra and some others have done is not excusable simply because they are on most ignore lists. Sat is right, W loses her 'tude or she should be banned.
 

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Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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It all reminds me of high school, the left that is, the simple jealous fits of rage and hormonal screamings.

When a pretty confident new girl walks into a new school, all the trailer trash, druggies and hell bent thugs want to take her out (not on a date either). The want to bully her to destruction.

Today is the 3rd week aniversary of Palin's "coming out" party. 21 days. They have hacked her e-mail, ripped up her children, remarked on her hideous voice, wished her DNA never was on earth and too many other nasty comments to even consider.

Dear God, she must be strong to put up with that. I think she is strong. Dear God has lots to do with that.

Okay, this is JMO too, but I'm entitled to that.

Sorry again Robin. It's my rant. And, if I ever offended you in any personnal way, know it wasn't meant to be that way. I think you are tops!


If it were me I would stay in and keep smiling and going at it just to piss them off.
 
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