FARM Vertical farms sprouting all over the world

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Pretty soon urban areas will be able to produce their own food with vertical farms in the heart of the cities.

http://www.newscientist.com/article...prouting-all-over-the-world.html#.UvaLUCyYY5s


Vertical farms sprouting all over the world


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Leader: "Fruit and veg, fresh from the skyscraper"
URBAN warehouses, derelict buildings and high-rises are the last places you'd expect to find the seeds of a green revolution. But from Singapore to Scranton, Pennsylvania, "vertical farms" are promising a new, environmentally friendly way to feed the rapidly swelling populations of cities worldwide.

In March, the world's largest vertical farm is set to open up shop in Scranton. Built by Green Spirit Farms (GSF) of New Buffalo, Michigan, it will only be a single storey covering 3.25 hectares, but with racks stacked six high it will house 17 million plants. And it is just one of a growing number.

Vertical farms aim to avoid the problems inherent in growing food crops in drought-and-disease-prone fields many hundreds of kilometres from the population centres in which they will be consumed. Instead, Dickson Despommier – an ecologist at Columbia University in New York City who has championed vertical farms since 1999 – suggests that food should be grown year-round in high-rise urban buildings, reducing the need for the carbon-emitting transport of fruit and vegetables.

The plant racks in a vertical farm can be fed nutrients by water-conserving, soil-free hydroponic systems and lit by LEDs that mimic sunlight. And they need not be difficult to manage: control software can choreograph rotating racks of plants so each gets the same amount of light, and direct water pumps to ensure nutrients are evenly distributed.

The whole apparatus can be monitored from a farmer's smartphone (see "Farming from afar"), says GSF's R&D manager, Daniel Kluko. He says the new farm in Scranton will grow 14 lettuce crops per year, as well as spinach, kale, tomatoes, peppers, basil and strawberries. Its output will be almost 10 times greater than the firm's first vertical farm, which opened in New Buffalo in 2011.

Proponents see vertical farming as a way to feed a global population that is urbanising fast: 86 per cent of the people in the developed world will live in cities by 2050, the United Nations predicts. It could make food supplies more secure as well, because production can continue even when extreme weather strikes. And as long as farmers are careful to protect their indoor "fields" from pests, vertical farming needs no herbicides or insecticides. They also conserve water far better than earthbound farming.

GSF's first farm was inspired by the long-term drought that has been afflicting many parts of the US. "Water is a big issue," says Kluko. "We have designed our vertical farms to recycle it, and they use 98 per cent less water per item of produce than traditional farming." That's done in part by scavenging water from the grow room's atmosphere with a dehumidifier. It's a machine with a dual role, as excess humidity can lead to problems like leaf mould.



Most vertical farms rely on natural light as much as possible. In sunny, near-equatorial Singapore, entrepreneur Jack Ng's SkyGreens vertical farm needs no artificial lighting to promote growth. Instead, his four-storey glass-sided farm contains mobile racks of Chinese cabbage and lettuce that rotate slowly up to the sunnier heights of the building on a low-power elevator.

Conversely, in Japan, Kyoto-based Nuvege (pronounced "new veggie") runs a windowless indoor farm. In a cavernous facility reminiscent of an aircraft hangar, Nuvege's LED lighting is tuned to two types of chlorophyll, one preferring red light and the other blue. "Tuned to these spectra, you can grow a plant no matter where it is," Despommier notes. Indeed, Nuvege produces 6 million lettuces a year in this way, for customers including Subway and Disneyland Tokyo.

In such arrangements, the electricity bills can add up quickly. Today's LEDs are only about 28 per cent efficient, which keeps the cost of produce high and prevents vertical farms from competing in regions where cheap vegetables are abundant. However, lighting engineers at Philips in the Netherlands have demonstrated LEDs with 68 per cent efficiency, which could dramatically cut costs.

And the latest research shows that plants do not need always-on artificial sunlight, Despommier says: they can experience light that varies in intensity through the day – moving from an artificial dawn through to noon and dusk. Mimicking these changes will save energy too. Such tricks already play a small part at GSF: infrared LEDs mimic 5 minutes of a fading sunset at the end of each day. "It puts peppers and tomatoes into their flowering period quicker," says Kluko.

Advances in vertical farms could trickle through from other sources, too. The US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency is using an 18-storey vertical farm in College Station, Texas, to produce genetically modified plants that make proteins useful in vaccines. Adversity also plays its part: the tsunami-sparked nuclear accident in Fukushima, Japan, in 2011 is leading to innovation in vertical farming because much of the region's irradiated farmland can no longer be used.

"Fukushima has had a riveting effect on this field," says Despommier. "People were taking their food to the Geiger counter before the checkout counter."
This article appeared in print under the headline "Legume with a view"
Farming from afar

With software to handle much of the day-to-day tending of crops, vertical farmers will probably look after multiple farms remotely, claims Daniel Kluko of Green Spirit Farms.
The app he and his colleagues are developing will allow farm managers to tweak nutrient levels and soil pH balance from a smartphone or tablet, and sound alarms if, say, a water pump fails on a vertical-growing system. "So if I'm over in London, where we're looking for a future vertical farm site to serve restaurants, I'll still be able to adjust the process in Michigan or Pennsylvania," says Kluko.
This will help drive down the labour costs of vertical farms, he says, so that they can compete with conventional ones
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Gonna be real expensive lettuce.

Have to pipe in the sunlight or use artificial light, pay the water bill, buy fertilizer and provide the artificial substrate - be it pots, soil-less mix, whatever. Somehow makes me suspect that traditional farming is a lot more economical with free sun, free rain, farm-by-product fertilizer and real dirt.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
The substrate isn't that expensive.
Most are designed to use natural sunlight, but they are finding they are dramatically able to increase yields by supplementing with artificial light.
Next are attempts to use LED lighting that is much more efficient.

Many vertical farms are already in use and they can compete favorably with land based farms when they have adequate natural sunlight.
 

Possible Impact

TB Fanatic
Gonna be real expensive lettuce.

Have to pipe in the sunlight or use artificial light, pay the water bill, buy fertilizer and provide the artificial substrate - be it pots, soil-less mix, whatever. Somehow makes me suspect that traditional farming is a lot more economical with free sun, free rain, farm-by-product fertilizer and real dirt.

The 1% need clean healthy food after the Nuclear holocaust. They don't care much about price.

A lot of research is done by NASA for long duration food production. (closed cycle)

This technique is also very useful in Arid climates that are too dangerous for traditional greenhouses.
 

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
I don't think that I would want to have to survive on food that needed to be grown in a sterile environment. Did you look at the picture in the OP? The person working in that room is garbed as if for an operating room! I don't want to eat food grown like that! I want food grown in the earth and the sunshine!

Kathleen
 

naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Something like that is fine for lettuce, but you are not going to grow your grains and most fruits that way.
 

SIRR1

Deceased
Something like that is fine for lettuce, but you are not going to grow your grains and most fruits that way.

I have heard about bumper crops grown in Alaska during the midnight sun, if the urban farmers can duplicate that amount of sunlight using hydroponic growing methods I think they may have a chance of growing all types of veggies and fruits besides strawberries and tomatoes.

SIRR1
 

naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I have heard about bumper crops grown in Alaska during the midnight sun, if the urban farmers can duplicate that amount of sunlight using hydroponic growing methods I think they may have a chance of growing all types of veggies and fruits besides strawberries and tomatoes.

SIRR1

Let me know when you figure out how to grow Apples in them. I know it's possible, but most people don't want to pay $500 for a single apple. Meanwhile, people will play insane amounts for a small bag of lettuce or a few strawberries.

I have to add that lettuce and other greens need very little light and can grow at low temperatures. Growing anything that requires fruit to set from a flower is going to need supplemental light and heat for most of the year. That get's expensive.

I'm not saying it's impossible. Hydroponic setups are all over this country growing different kinds of produce. (Mainly lettuce, cucumbers, and tomatoes). It's not a business that makes people into easy millionaires when setting them up in the cheaper countryside. Paying city prices for real estate, water, energy, employees, and taxes would make vertical growing very difficult..

I have no doubt that projects like the ones in the article are running based on special treatment from local governments. A tax subsidy her, a grant there, and a few dozen exemptions later, and anyone could be profitable.

I would be very interested if this made it past the fad stage.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Something like that is fine for lettuce, but you are not going to grow your grains and most fruits that way.

Check out growing a greener world, PBS, they just did a stint in NYC where peeps were actually growing fruits and a very large variety of veggies in those huge windows in a lot of the skyscrapers. In one skyscraper one adventurous gardener also had an aquaponics tilapia farm going. They were raising berries of all types, lettuces, kale, chard, onions, greenbeans, peas, corn, squash of all types and a few other things.

K-
 

Lynx

Senior Member
I have to wonder what trace minerals will be missing from the nutrient solutions these plants are raised in. Humans are already experiencing mineral deficiencies from overworked farmland that just doesn't provide what is needed any more.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Let me know when you figure out how to grow Apples in them. I know it's possible, but most people don't want to pay $500 for a single apple. Meanwhile, people will play insane amounts for a small bag of lettuce.

The university here has had an indoor orchard atop one of the buildings here for the past 45 years. Not only are they harvesting apples, but also peaches, nectarines, pears, pineapples, and banana's and a few other exotic fruits. It's really cool, miss having access to that building, it used to be open to the public, this time of year it was wonderful to hang out in, their tarantula collection also lives in this indoor orchard.
 

Kook

A 'maker', not a 'taker'!
If all you were doing was adding the cost of the electricity to the cost of food, thiswould not be economical. However, as you area adding the cost of electricity, you are removing the cost of packaging, transport, and pest control. Also, figure in the elimination of losses related to bad weather, drought, insects, animals, and human theft (admittedly not much). You never have a crop loss due to a heat wave, excessive rainfall or flooding, no losses related to storms. Locusts would never be a problem. What city dweller wouldn't love to walk a few blocks down the road and pick out fresh, near perfect fruits and vegetables grown right there, never transported but a few stories up or down! What restaurant wouldn't kill for fresh tomatoes picked that morning! Corn less than an hour off the stalk! Parsley, cilantro and dill fresh like nowhere else. Man you could charge a premium and get it.

I can see this making big bucks for the owners. I saw an episode of Pinnacle that interviewed the CEO/Owner of a company in NYNY that imports tomatoes into the city. I mean that's ALL they do, just make sure they get the freshest tomatoes for the restaurants and open markets in the city. I remember they said they would visit family in Florida every summer, and they saw the low prices (for them) of tomatoes in FL. So, for a two week trip back to the city, they put their bus fare into a truck rental that they filled it up with several tons of tomatoes and then rolled around to various restaurants in NY, and quickly sold out. They started doing this for a business out of HS, and wound up getting rich!

Like the girls selling tomatoes, I could see vertical farms like this making a fortune, and bringing fresher, healthier food to the city masses. Good fortune to them!

FarmerKook
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Are we talking about gardens dependent upon the load bearing ability of the floors involved? Heck, there are apartment complexes and people's homes where you can't have waterbeds because of the concentrated weight. I'm having a hard time imagining a garden large enough to significantly increase food production even on a rotation on a floor that isn't reinforced big time.

After tropical storms here in Florida we have roof collapses on flat roofs because of water weight ... it can't run off fast enough to avoid compromising the roof structure. I've heard the same is possible up north with snow. I would think you would have to be very selective about where you create a "vertical garden."
 

Dux

Veteran Member
I'd like to see this idea taken down a notch - for backyard gardening. Would like to see a way to keep it insulated, maximize the light coming in (in winter), shade/partial shading (in summer), supplemental lighting. And economical, of course.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Are we talking about gardens dependent upon the load bearing ability of the floors involved? Heck, there are apartment complexes and people's homes where you can't have waterbeds because of the concentrated weight. I'm having a hard time imagining a garden large enough to significantly increase food production even on a rotation on a floor that isn't reinforced big time.

After tropical storms here in Florida we have roof collapses on flat roofs because of water weight ... it can't run off fast enough to avoid compromising the roof structure. I've heard the same is possible up north with snow. I would think you would have to be very selective about where you create a "vertical garden."

If done correctly verticle gardens don't way that much! The key is they must be built/installed correctly to begin with.

K-
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I'd like to see this idea taken down a notch - for backyard gardening. Would like to see a way to keep it insulated, maximize the light coming in (in winter), shade/partial shading (in summer), supplemental lighting. And economical, of course.

Do some research into tunnel gardening then, like I said the university here has been making huge strides in improving the plastics, so that they have built in solar panels for lighting, heat, etc. There's a huge set up here at the university which has resulted in a ton of regular ole farmers, ie the guys that grow only corn and soybeans, making the switch. Tunnel farms are all over my county now, I can pretty much get anything fresh this time of year from tomatoes to dandelion greens, lettuce, kale, chard, radishes, squash, green beans, cucumbers, etc., all grown in soil in a tunnel cover, from my local HyVee, Fareway, and organic co-op. I think the initial start up costs are steep, depending on the setup you go with but it's worth looking into.
 

naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The university here has had an indoor orchard atop one of the buildings here for the past 45 years. Not only are they harvesting apples, but also peaches, nectarines, pears, pineapples, and banana's and a few other exotic fruits. It's really cool, miss having access to that building, it used to be open to the public, this time of year it was wonderful to hang out in, their tarantula collection also lives in this indoor orchard.


Like I wrote, it is possible. But it would be costs prohibitive. Now if they could get peaches to be everbearing, then I could imagine that chefs would go nuts over the taste of taste of a ripe peach picked off the tree. As opposed to the pathetic shams that they sell as peaches today, picked and canned green and covered with syrup to diguise their unripeness.
 

CGTech

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If you think of this from a *prep* standpoint, would it be worth doing just for yourself, as a guaranteed food source? That is the way I would suggest we look at this.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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If you think of this from a *prep* standpoint, would it be worth doing just for yourself, as a guaranteed food source? That is the way I would suggest we look at this.

I was thinking about some gutter material, plastic drums and solar fountain pumps as the base for an expedient system.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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If done correctly verticle gardens don't way that much! The key is they must be built/installed correctly to begin with.

K-

OK. Good to know. I'm still not sure I would want to live in a building where right above my head is a bunch of dirt and/or water waiting to come down on top of me during an earthquake or failure of the ceiling structure. But that's just me. LOL. The mold and mildew problems must be heck to prevent as well when you have these green walls and vertical gardens growing inside. But it would be very neat assuming you could secure the basic understructure. I looked at a bunch online and the most successful ones appear to be outside green walls used for decoration. I didn't see too many of any size that were made up of what is essentially vertical edible landscaping. (grin) The ones I did see were pretty doggone cool.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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I'd like to see this idea taken down a notch - for backyard gardening. Would like to see a way to keep it insulated, maximize the light coming in (in winter), shade/partial shading (in summer), supplemental lighting. And economical, of course.

What do they call those trees that they train to do this ... generally attached to the side of a building? Espe ... uh ... espalier or something like that. Here's what I am talking about.
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Dux

Veteran Member
Espalier is correct (though the spelling?? ha ha). It takes a lot of pruning. Put them on a south facing wall, should be fruitful with minimal space. I don't think they'd be practical inside a greenhouse in a cold climate. We can grow peaches and apples here in Denver. The crazy weather usually gets rid of the blossoms before fruiting out.
 

Lei

Veteran Member
You can put in an aquaponic system for around $1000 that will produce 5 pounds of fish
a month and 260 vegetable plants every 6 weeks. Run the pump off a small solar system.
Feed the fish everyday and once every month or two add a little calcium carbonate, few drops of iron.
I grow kale , lettuce, tomatoes, beans, taro, green onions, basil, parsley, dill, lemon balm, mint, tatsoi,
swiss chard and a few strawberries.
Chickens are a problem. They love to raid the system ! Little thieves.
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
Vertical gardening is awesome, you can get so much more produce by doing it that way and you'd be surprised what you can grow (cantaloupe, hubbard squash). We did it last year with 2x4's and cheap metal deer fence uprights in north/south rows in the garden. We also had an archway for the Kentucky pole and other bean climbers that looked awesome-if I can find the photos I took, I'll post them.

Doing an entire farm in this manner would be extremely expensive and time consuming, I'm not sure it would be cost effective, though if food is unavailable, people will pay anything...
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Fruits??

remember the 5-fruit mini-trees.

A couple rows of them in the room, with the hydroponic shelves along the windows...

Vertical rotation for the shelves...

Multiple crops in different rooms...

Yeah this could compete favorably with dirt farms in an inner city or an industrial city.


remember that there are a LOT of orchards using dwarf variant stock for their base trees that are short enough (and yield well enough) that even altitudinally challenged folk like me can harvest without more than a 2-3 step ladder...)
 

CGTech

Has No Life - Lives on TB
You can put in an aquaponic system for around $1000 that will produce 5 pounds of fish
a month and 260 vegetable plants every 6 weeks. Run the pump off a small solar system.
Feed the fish everyday and once every month or two add a little calcium carbonate, few drops of iron.
I grow kale , lettuce, tomatoes, beans, taro, green onions, basil, parsley, dill, lemon balm, mint, tatsoi,
swiss chard and a few strawberries.
Chickens are a problem. They love to raid the system ! Little thieves.

Do you have any pictures you could show us Lei?
 

Lei

Veteran Member
I don't have pictures but the guy I learned from does have lots of pictures.
friendlyaquaponics.com
I have his microaquaponic system.
 
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