GUNS/RLTD Virginia Democrats Reportedly Beginning Effort To Confiscate Lawfully Owned Firearms

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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However, with mass shootings continuing at a rapid rate — and with so many mass shooters using AR-15s, a registry is certainly a compromise worth discussing.

What a line of BS.

More people died in/of (Insert stupid cause) than were killed by ARs in a year.



Coconuts
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Mosquito Bites
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Autoerotic Asphyxiation
Strangling oneself while masturbating may not seem like a widespread phenomenon, but it actually kills 600 people each year. Probably not the happy ending these people were looking for.


Falling Out Of Bed
Getting out of bed in the morning may be hard sometimes, but who would have thought that it could actually be threatening to your life!? 450 people in the US die from falling out of their beds each year.


Suicide In NYC
Many people are afraid of moving or traveling to New York City due to the crime rates — fearful that they could be murdered. In actuality, more people in NYC die from suicide each year than from homicide.


Animal Chauffeurs
Yes, cars are deadly, but so are horse-drawn carriages, it turns out. About 120 people die each year sue to being a passenger in a vehicle that is pulled by an animal.


Tap Water
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Vending Machines
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Icicles
It's hard to imagine an icicle killing someone, but 100 people die anually after being impaled by falling icicles in Russia alone. These icy chunks may be beautiful, but it turns out they're also deadly.

 

hd5574

Veteran Member
I don't know how to post the map.
www.gunrightswatch.com

Has current map of the counties, towns and cities in Virginia opposed to the governor's
Ideas. The counties etc in green are upholding the 2A
There are others still to due to vote. Ok

This website and VCDL's emails have the most up to date info.
Hope someone will post this map
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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I don't know how to post the map.
The website
www.gunrights.com

Has current map of the counties, towns and cities in Virginia opposed to the governor's
Ideas. The counties etc in green are upholding the 2A
There are others still to due to vote.

This website and VCDL's emails have the most up to date info.
Hope someone will post this map

That's a bad link.


I did find this, Virginia has become an overnight tidal wave of Second Amendment Sanctuaries

Virginia has become an overnight tidal wave of Second Amendment Sanctuaries
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Usually you can grab an image by right clicking on it and click on "copy image location".

Click the "insert image" icon at the top of the reply box here.

Click the link (chain link thing) and paste (CTRL V) directly into it.

Virginia-County-Map20191211.png
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
It I understand the map correctly, it shows virtually the entire state is Sanctuary. I would guess that the "progress" section are high population centers that are generally opposed? So will this end up being a case of counties vs state fight?
 

hd5574

Veteran Member
There is a lot more information at
www.gunsrightswatch.com

It is located in the article underneath the map... they're updating all the time as locations vote and change locations and change meeting times they are using the VCDL info and others. We are getting to a place where many of the governor's elected Democrats the state house find themselves in the green 2A areas. Sometimes it's good to be green.

This site keeps up with all the upcoming votes. Good one to keep up with.

Sorry to all I am a lousy typist and not good at copying stuff from other websites
but I am devoted 2A gal since LBJ was prez. My heartfelt thanks to all of you who are and have helped me get this information out to people.
HD
 

Milk-maid

Girls with Guns Member

Is this the Army National Guard we are supposed to be afraid of? (Old article)

Company commander steals armored vehicle from National Guard base, police say

By: Denise Lavoie, The Associated Press   June 6, 2018

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This story, first published Wednesday morning, was updated Thursday with a statement from a National Guard spokesman.

RICHMOND, Va. — An Army National Guard officer accused of stealing an armored personnel carrier from a Virginia base said he had permission to take the APC, but Guard officials denied that on Thursday.

1st Lt. Joshua Philip Yabut, 29, of Richmond, was charged with eluding police and unauthorized use of a vehicle, the Virginia National Guard said in a news release.

He is accused of leading police on a more than 60-mile (100-kilometer) chase while driving under the influence of drugs, police said Wednesday.

The vehicle, which drives on tracks like a tank, was stolen Tuesday evening from Fort Pickett in Blackstone. Police chased it for about two hours at speeds as high as 40 mph (65 kph) before the driver stopped and surrendered near Richmond City Hall, Virginia State Police said.

The Guard said the personnel carrier was driven away during routine training at Fort Pickett and has been returned to the base. The vehicle wasn’t equipped with any weapons, but Yabut had his personal weapon with him without any ammunition, the Guard said.

Police said an investigation is ongoing and declined to comment on a motive for stealing the vehicle, but said Yabut was under the influence of drugs when he was arrested.

In a Wednesday evening phone call from Virginia’s Central State Hospital, Yabut told The Associated Press he was authorized to take the vehicle on a pre-planned route as part of a training exercise to gauge the police response. Yabut said his brigade commander, who he declined to name, told him to take the vehicle. The psychiatric hospital is in Petersburg, Virginia, and its patients include people receiving court-ordered mental health evaluations and treatment.

Guard denies officer had permission

But a spokesman for the Virginia National Guard is refuting Yabut’s claim that he had been ordered by his brigade commander to drive an armored personnel carrier off base.

Guard spokesman A. A. “Cotton” Puryear says Yabut’s claim is not true, the Associated Press reported on Thursday. He says the officer was not authorized to drive the carrier off Fort Pickett “to any location for any reason,” and that there was no exercise to gauge police response.
 

jward

passin' thru



Links at source....
Posted for fair use....

VA Dems Threaten To Use National Guard Against Sanctuary Counties
We here at Bearing Arms have offered a lot of support for Virginia’s sanctuary counties. While Cam has written extensively on the subject, I’ve also covered it in various posts. We both stand firmly with sanctuary counties. The continued encroachment on our Second Amendment liberties has to end somewhere, somehow, and the sanctuary movement is a dandy way to address it.

However, I also understand that not everyone agrees with me on that front. Most of those are anti-gunners who typically ignore immigration sanctuary cities as if they’re a non-factor, but see this as the most horrible thing in the world.


A lot of those anti-gunners got elected or re-elected to office in the state of Virginia, though. Now, they’re looking to ramp things up against those defiant localities.

Democratic lawmakers on Capitol Hill say local police who do not enforce gun control measures likely to pass in Virginia should face prosecution and even threats of the National Guard.
After November’s Virginia Legislature elections that led to Democrats taking control of both chambers, the gun control legislation proposed by some Democrats moved forward, including universal background checks, an “assault weapons” ban, and a red flag law.
This, of course, led to the sanctuary movement. While some in more urban areas of Virginia support gun control, a lot don’t and they wanted to make damn certain Richmond knows it.

They also don’t want to see further encroachment on their constitutional rights.

Virginia Democratic officials, however, already say local law enforcement supporting these resolutions will face consequences if they do not carry out any law the state Legislature passes.
“I would hope they either resign in good conscience, because they cannot uphold the law which they are sworn to uphold, or they’re prosecuted for failure to fulfill their oath,” Democratic Virginia Rep. Gerry Connolly told the Washington Examiner of local county police who may refuse to enforce future gun control measures. “The law is the law. If that becomes the law, you don’t have a choice, not if you’re a sworn officer of the law.”
Democratic Virginia Rep. Donald McEachin suggested cutting off state funds to counties that do not comply with any gun control measures that pass in Richmond.
“They certainly risk funding, because if the sheriff’s department is not going to enforce the law, they’re going to lose money. The counties’ attorneys offices are not going to have the money to prosecute because their prosecutions are going to go down,” he said.
McEachin also noted that Democratic Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam could call the National Guard, if necessary
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Oh, won’t that be fun?

This, of course, introduces a serious escalation. While there’s absolutely no way to actually make an officer enforce the law–believe me, if they don’t want to enforce a given law, they won’t–Virginia Democrats are going to try to do it anyway.

As a result, they’re talking about sending military troops into these counties to enforce their will. They’ll broach absolutely no dissent from anyone. Not a single one talking about escalating things against sanctuary counties has uttered so much as the first shred of disagreement with immigration sanctuary counties, they’re ready to send in armed troops into these communities, turning them into occupied territory.

This will not end well, but it will especially not end well for Democrats. I’m quite sure the image of armored personnel carriers rolling down Main Street in Podunk, VA won’t play particularly well with the moderate voters.

This is a road they really don’t want to go down.
 
It I understand the map correctly, it shows virtually the entire state is Sanctuary. I would guess that the "progress" section are high population centers that are generally opposed? So will this end up being a case of counties vs state fight?

Some of the "progress" areas may simply be county/city/town jurisdictions who have yet to vote on this matter, or, who have put of the vote OFF until a later date - very few areas in Virginia are actually anti-2A - for instance, the Democrat strongholds of Fairfax and Loudoun counties (bedroom counties to DC) contain large pro-2A constituencies (roughly 1.5M people in those two counties, alone), and may yet surprise their liberal Richmond overlords.


intothegoodnight
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
Some of the "progress" areas may simply be county/city/town jurisdictions who have yet to vote on this matter, or, who have put of the vote OFF until a later date - very few areas in Virginia are actually anti-2A - for instance, the Democrat strongholds of Fairfax and Loudoun counties (bedroom counties to DC) contain large pro-2A constituencies (roughly 1.5M people in those two counties, alone), and may yet surprise their liberal Richmond overlords.


intothegoodnight
Okay. Then I am confused. If virtually every county is opposed to what is happening, how did the Demos get control of both the state senate and house?
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Loudoun county is probably a better bet for the 2A sanctuary status. While there are a LOT of pro 2A supporters in FFX co, us included; this county has a lot of liberals and liberal yankess living in Reston, Herndon, Alexandria and particularly in Fairfax city. The new police chief here in policies is indistinguishable from the yoyo chief in Montgomery co. MD-their hearts are dyed blue and the yellow stripe runs FAR up their backs. And you still see Hillary and Osama bumper stickers all over Alexandria (Del Ray neighborhood in particular-that's where the senator was hurt during the shooting on the softball field).
Arlington county I'd say will be a complete no go-that county leans so far to the left it might fall over. Prince William and Loudoun counties are the best best for the resolution in northern VA. FFx co. might go for it but I'd say it's a toss up at this point.


Some of the "progress" areas may simply be county/city/town jurisdictions who have yet to vote on this matter, or, who have put of the vote OFF until a later date - very few areas in Virginia are actually anti-2A - for instance, the Democrat strongholds of Fairfax and Loudoun counties (bedroom counties to DC) contain large pro-2A constituencies (roughly 1.5M people in those two counties, alone), and may yet surprise their liberal Richmond overlords.


intothegoodnight
 

Bubble Head

Has No Life - Lives on TB
This will not play out very well for the Dims. If the run they National Guard down the streets it will look like Hungary under the Soviets or the ChiComs putting the boot to their subjects. Besides the National Guard has to go home to their neighborhood sometime and that could be dicey.
In third world countries it is always the one with the gun who rules. Remember that principal.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
want to REALLY piss off sum J6P 2A dude? tell him he KAN'T . . . and then tell him not only that he KAN'T but that you're gonna send the ARMY IN to take all his legally owned, constitutionally protected stuff just because THEY DECIDED he KAN'T HAVE it anymore.

what's that stuff about blood running to horses bridles?

LINE? . . . meet SAND

this won't play well - dimmies better start backing up and backing OFF​
 

Paladin1

"In Omnia Paratus" is more than just a phrase
want to REALLY piss off sum J6P 2A dude? tell him he KAN'T . . . and then tell him not only that he KAN'T but that you're gonna send the ARMY IN to take all his legally owned, constitutionally protected stuff just because THEY DECIDED he KAN'T HAVE it anymore.

what's that stuff about blood running to horses bridles?

LINE? . . . meet SAND

this won't play well - dimmies better start backing up and backing OFF​
No. Let them come, it's time and I don't want my son dealing with this.

The government MUST be brought back to heel.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
No. Let them come, it's time and I don't want my son dealing with this.

The government MUST be brought back to heel.

THAT's the attitude AMERICA needs. at this point there is increasingly less to lose every day. this is NOT for you you and I. this is for your progeny. imagine what their world will look like in 10-15-20 years . . . assuming of course that we even MAKE IT that far
 

homecanner1

Veteran Member
This has been a fully organic, grassroots uprising in the true sense of our tradition like the Whiskey Rebellion.

With the stroke of a pen they will have overnight turned law abiding people into felons if they do not comply.

this comment resonates over at AR-15

"...For those of you in counties or cities that have passed 2A sanctuary status - talk to your sheriff. If they are going to oppose the laws, you and your community need to come up with a plan to stand with them. The sheriffs that side with the people will be the focus. Defend them, stand together with them, and keep them free. If that means the sheriff deputizes a bunch more folks - so be it. If that means a rotating group of citizens stand watch over the sheriff, make a duty roster and buy some good socks. The same goes for mayors, city managers, city council members, county board of supervisors, constables, judges, and district attorneys. Anyone in a government position that is openly siding with the rights of the people and standing against tyranny needs to be protected..."

some wise wag over there said regarding upcoming armed rally Jan 20th lobby day in Richmond to bring sandbags.
 

homecanner1

Veteran Member
Man its on. They are encouraging show up in Richmond full battle rattle, a peaceable show of force so they understand as this may be the last chance to resolve this peacefully. Apparently MLK day is traditional lobby day for state electors to meet with constituents.

Culpeper Sheriff says he will deputize residents outside his county. Imagine if VA NG decide to join their line outside & defy orders? As a show of force? The whole nation is watching too. If they try to disarm our Virginia Brethren, Richmond may be our hill we've been waiting for.


comment:
RE: Lobby Day, if attendance is good, could have the equivalent of two or more armed infantry divisions. That is mind blowing. It also begs the question.... what about air support?
 
Lobby Day, if attendance is good, could have the equivalent of two or more armed infantry divisions. That is mind blowing. It also begs the question.... what about air support?

. . . such as surveillance drones of one ilk or another, and/or a military grade low-orbit spy satellite repositioned for in-depth recon, and PLANTS - LOTS of camera-equipped plants/facial recognition/license-plate readers mixed into this assemblage - all conveniently organized AND paid for by . . . Soros, Bloomberg, other well-resourced international deep-staters?

Count upon it.

This is most certainly NOT your father's Oldsmobile.

A NEW kind of war. Is the resistance leadership clued into these, and other, technology-driven tactics/force multipliers that WILL BE used AGAINST them - perhaps as a subtle "culling" mechanism to remove some of the "stiff-neck starch?"

Eyes WIDE open.


intothegoodnight
 
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hd5574

Veteran Member
New email from VCDL just a few minutes ago.
Seven new 2A localities today, plus one they missed on the 9th.
One county postponed until the 23rd ... because of wording..they are working it out.
 

homecanner1

Veteran Member
you saw the Hong Kong resistance wearing fake faces projected onto their own to trip up facial AI


you can bet Uncle and his federals will be threaded thick thru the crowd. We had an armed lobby/demo day here which I attended at the State Cap, mostly hunters in deer camo. Its not at flashpoint yet but it most certainly is brewing in Illinois.


Illinois 2A sanctuary counties.png

here's the map, same color code as the Virginia one
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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. . . such as surveillance drones of one ilk or another, and/or a military grade low-orbit spy satellite repositioned for in-depth recon, and PLANTS - LOTS of camera-equipped plants/facial recognition/license-plate readers mixed into this assemblage - all conveniently organized AND paid for by . . . Soros, Bloomberg, other well-resourced international deep-staters?

Count upon it.

This is most certainly NOT your father's Oldsmobile.

A NEW kind of war. Is the resistance leadership clued into these, and other, technology-driven tactics/force multipliers that WILL BE used AGAINST them - perhaps as a subtle "culling" mechanism to remove some of the "stiff-neck starch?"

Eyes WIDE open.


intothegoodnight

I think these people just don't give a $#it anymore.

If the guvnuh snags any of the leadership, it will go bad, very bad, very fast.

I'm not seeing where they are breaking any federal law, yet.

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LoupGarou

Ancient Fuzzball
. . . such as surveillance drones of one ilk or another, and/or a military grade low-orbit spy satellite repositioned for in-depth recon, and PLANTS - LOTS of camera-equipped plants/facial recognition/license-plate readers mixed into this assemblage - all conveniently organized AND paid for by . . . Soros, Bloomberg, other well-resourced international deep-staters?

Count upon it.

This is most certainly NOT your father's Oldsmobile.

A NEW kind of war. Is the resistance leadership clued into these, and other, technology-driven tactics/force multipliers that WILL BE used AGAINST them - perhaps as a subtle "culling" mechanism to remove some of the "stiff-neck starch?"

Eyes WIDE open.


intothegoodnight

I'm betting that the lists of theirs on different groups have been made for years. Sure they are adding people and updating lists constantly, but they have been in existence for a while... And if my guess is correct that these are "international socialists", then their real list is of the few of their "group" that "really matter" and then they know that everybody not on their list is a "useless eater".

My suggestion is to do EVERYTHING from this point forward with as much OPSEC, INTEL, and documenting as possible. TPTB dont like their own tools used against them, and that includes surveiance (they despise it when the cameras are pointed at them), encryption (they hate it when their INTEL tools aren't able to figure out what is being communicated, and SIGINT (they get completely unhinged when we can find out what COMMS they are using and start to monitor them as well as they are monitoring us). I am thinking that best practices from here on out mean that everybody have either portable cameras capturing everything at every public gathering (wouldn't want to miss finding WALDO, or playing "Spot the Fed"(DEF CON anyone) after analyzing the multiple videos that are brought back). The same can be done with scanners under your coats, just set them to "Close Call" on and keep them recording the "found" frequencies into memory. If we are capturing faces, actions and frequencies it will make finding the "things that do not belong" a LOT easier.

The more INTEL and raw data we can collect as all of these things happen, the more we will know about future events and how to plan for them. If you get enough of the frequencies in use, then you can pre-program scanners in the area and just record all transmissions away for later analysis as well as real time monitoring. The same thing is true with the cameras, I am still amazed at how differently certain people behave when they see that they are on camera. And that behavior is even further changed when they realize it is not just one camera that they can hold their hand over to block the view, but dozens that can't be blocked easily so their actions are WELL documented from several angles and probably for longer than when they noticed that they were being videoed. I have seen politicians notice multiple cameras and RUN for their safe space.

For every technical advantage used by the OPFOR, there are unequal and randomly opposite solutions that can be found and utilized. Drones...2 Superballs with paracord between them, or truck cargo nets, or pulsed infrared flashlights. Cameras...pulsed infrared flashlights, face paints, glasses, and other tricks. This is why you must note and analyze what is being used now, and work towards solutions for future engagements.

Loup
 

Milk-maid

Girls with Guns Member
From VCDL.org newsletter last night.

The Governor's threat of using the National Guard to enforce unconstitutional gun-laws if localities become 2A Sanctuaries wasn't even a speed bump for the tsunami coming his way! Tonight, 7 localities became sanctuaries and we missed one from Monday. The total is now 91 localities! (See new photos and complete list of current sanctuaries on the Virginia Citizens Defense League - Home main page.)

New sanctuaries:
  • Grayson County - unanimous, large crowd, Sheriff Vaughn willing to deputize citizens to protect the 2A
  • Isle of Wight County - unanimous
  • Lancaster County - unanimous, overflow crowd
  • Lunenburg County - unanimous
  • Town of Mineral - 5 to 1 (passed resolution back on December 9)
  • Northumberland County - 4 to 1
  • Richmond County - unanimous
  • Wise County - unanimous
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
one can only PRAY that common sense will prevail here . . . but then again we ARE talking about demonKKKrats aren't we?
 
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