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Updates from Capitol Square throughout the day during the gun-rights rally in Richmond.
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11:38 a.m.: A man with a backpack was detained and is expected to be charged with trespassing after climbing the outside catwalk to the roof of the Mutual Building, 909 E. Main Street.
The incident happened shortly before 11:30 am, while the pro-gun rally was still going on at the capitol just a couple blocks away.
The man climbed the catwalk, on the Cary Street side of the building, and was placed in custody a few minutes later, according to Chuck Potts, senior regional operations manager for Admiral Security Services, which handles security for the building. The man was turned over to police.
The man did not have any guns or weapons visible but was “dressed to be up there” with hat and gloves, Potts said.
- Paige Mudd, Times-Dispatch
I thought I might as well wear my gun"
11 a.m.: Just beyond the entrance to an eerily quiet Virginia Capitol were some of the loudest, most energetic sections of Monday’s gun-rights rally.
The area offered a clear view of the main stage for rallygoers who refused to leave their firearms or flag poles behind in order to go inside Capitol Square.
A large navy blue flag that read, “Trump 2020,” waved above a smattering of yellow, “Don’t tread on me” flags. The same words were also superimposed on a rainbow gay pride flag.
Nearby, someone waved a cardboard sign that read, "Gun control is Jim Crow," as the crowd chanted "We will not comply," and, "Northam's gotta go."
Law enforcement officials declined to estimate the crowd size at the start of the program organized by the Virginia Citizens Defense League.
David Treibs, 55, brought a flag bearing an AR-15, a star and the words, “Come and take it.” Treibs drove from Fredericksburg, Texas to “stand with the people of Virginia in support of the Second Amendment.”
Treibs says a version of the flag bearing a cannon goes back to an 1835 conflict between Texan colonists and Mexico. The flag can be seen throughout Texas, he said, and he hoped to display it at Monday’s rally.
Two of his sons held a larger version on the corner of West Grace Street and 9th Street.
“We wanted to bring our flags, but they don’t allow poles inside,” Treibs said, standing with a long gun strapped around his chest, a flag on one hand and a stack of pamphlets on the other.
“If I can’t go inside, I thought I might as well wear my gun.”
Near the gun-rights rally, a small pro-Communist group briefly held signs and chanted “revolution,” prompting counter chants of “four more years” in support of President Donald Trump.
- Mel Leonor, Times-Dispatch
A lively discussion inside the legislative offices
Sen. Jennifer Boysko, D-Fairfax, talks to a group of gun-rights advocates during lobby day on Monday.
BRIDGET BALCH
11 a.m.: Sen. Jennifer Boysko, D-Fairfax, engaged in a spirited debate with a group of gun rights supporters in the hallway of the legislative office building about the proper way to protect people from gun violence.
The lobbyists pressed her on red flag laws, which allow law enforcement to temporarily confiscate firearms with a court order if a person is believed to be a danger to themself or others, arguing that it shirked due process protections and that it would be better to give the person help and protection from all potential weapons.
Boysko said that lawmakers were proceeding carefully on the laws because people on both sides of the aisle wanted to ensure due process rights are protected.
"I've held three or four town halls," Boysko said. "I'm actually listening and taking notes. I'm from Alabama and Arkansas. I grew up around guns. I'm not afraid. However, I do think there are a small number of things we can do that would help reduce violence."
One veteran said he'd be appalled if Virginia passed laws that would make possessing a certain number of rounds of ammunition a felony because it would make him, who fought wars overseas, and other "everyday citizens" felons for not complying with a law they believe is unconstitutional.
Boysko said that she did not support Senate Bill 16, which banned assault firearms and made other limits on guns and magazines, because she and other lawmakers did not think that the bill was carefully thought out.
A few people in the crowd thanked her for rejecting the bill.
Brandon Howard, who was leading a lobbying group and is running for the Hopewell City Council, told Boysko if the legislature is concerned about gun violence, it should be looking at mandatory minimum sentences.
"Ninety percent of a lot of the gun violence that happens -- especially in Hopewell -- are by convicted felons who are out," Howard said.
Other lobbyists emphasized the importance of focusing on helping the mentally ill and keeping criminals off the streets, rather than focusing on guns.
"I appreciate that you all are here," Boysko told the group at one point during the debate. "Democracy works best when we have civil conversations. You can vote at the ballot box next time. That is how we make change."
-- Bridget Balch, Times-Dispatch
As crowds fill streets, lobbying goes on inside General Assembly offices
A sign welcomes gun-rights lobbyists at the office of state Sen. Amanda F. Chase.
MICHAEL MARTZ
10:30 a.m.: Sen. Monty Mason, D-Williamsburg, was sitting quietly in his office with the door open as gun-rights lobbyists milled outside.
Mason was preparing for bills before Senate Commerce and Labor Committee in the afternoon.
“It looks like every Martin Luther King Day to me,” he said.
A state holiday, Martin Luther King Day long as been an occasion for gun-rights and other public advocates to lobby legislators.
“This has always been a really interesting day in Capitol Square,” Mason said.
However, the sound of the rally in the square as crowds thronged on North 10th Street were audible in his fifth-floor office.
“I hope no one gets hurt out there,” Mason said.
In the hall outside his office, John Flynn was directing two 10-person teams lobbying senators for the VCDL.
He had split the team in half to make its size more manageable. Each team was assigned four senators.
“The teams are a little bigger than they are most years,” he said.
This is the fourth Lobby Day for Flynn, a volunteer from Midlothian.
He said league members are disappointed in the new rule banning firearms in the legislative office building and Capitol, but it hasn’t stopped them from coming unarmed.
“The people serious about lobbying said, ‘We’re going to do what we’re going to do,” Flynn said.
- Michael Martz, Times-Dispatch
The view of the Virginia General Assembly as seen from Bank Street outside of Capitol Square on Monday.
DANIEL SANGJIB MIN
No arrests as of 10 a.m.
10 a.m.: As of 10 a.m., the Joint Information Center, which is manned by a contingent of spokespeople from Capitol Police, Richmond Police and Virginia State Police, reports that there have been no arrests.
They are receiving regular updates from Capitol Square and haven’t reported any incident, except a medical emergency that forced one person from the line and into an ambulance. An official said the medical condition didn’t appear serious.
Large crowds of gun-rights supporters radiated out on streets surrounding Capitol Square.
Along 8th Street, a supporter of President Donald Trump encouraged gun-rights supporters to register to vote.
On Grace Street, a gun-rights supporter carrying a large American flag strode away from the rally. He said he needed to go sit in his truck for a few minutes because it was so cold he couldn’t feel his fingers.
-- Ali Rockett and Andrew Cain, Times-Dispatch
Capitol Square and surrounding streets fill with protesters
9:45 a.m.: With bands of well-armed and armored militia groups standing watch around the Capitol, throngs of protesters are hoping to use their voice as part of the show of force happening at the Virginia General Assembly.
Holding a sign warning gun-control supporters that they could trigger a “civil war,” Mackenzie Mcgough, 25, of North Chesterfield, said he thinks today’s event could mark a historical moment.
“You’re going to start something you wish you hadn’t. I don’t own a gun personally, but I know a lot of people who are going to be upset,” he said. “I think we’re allowed to bear arms. I think they’re trying to push the goal post. They don’t want us to have any guns. That’s not going to happen.”
Others with similar sentiments traveled from afar to be in Richmond on Monday.
We asked Smiles Welch about his MLK sign. He said there’s a link between the Second Amendment and Civil Rights movements.
KATY EVANS
Smiles Welch, 41, of Athens, Ohio, held a sign quoting Martin Luther King, Jr. in honor of the civil rights leader whose namesake holiday in Virginia has become a day of lobbying for interest groups around the state, since many people are usually off work and available to come to Richmond.
When asked why he selected that quote, he said he sees a parallel between the Civil Rights movement and the people rallying today.
“None of us want to use the weapons that we want to keep to preserve peace. We’re here for safety and everyone’s freedom,” he said. “Although the cause we’re here for today is not exactly the same as the cause he fought for, they are directly linked. We all stand for freedom and equality, and the well-being of all people of America.”
A few blocks down Ninth Street, about two dozen people wearing body armor stood silently in the road, facing the Capitol, guns in hand. A man who appeared to be in charge said the group was not affiliated with any organization, and that most of them were from Central and Northern Virginia.
- Chris Suarez, Times-Dispatch
9 a.m.: The public lines moved smoothly into the Pocahontas Building on Monday morning as people wearing orange “Guns Save Lives” stickers prepared to visit lawmakers for the annual Lobby Day for members of the Virginia Citizens Defense League.
League members dismissed concerns about outside nationalist groups swamping the annual lobbying event with agendas beyond protecting gun owner rights.
“People are conflating Lobby Day with things Lobby Day is not about,” said David Yarashus, who came from Annandale with four of his seven children. “Lobby Day is when you peacefully petition your legislators.”
The issue for league members is solely gun rights, said Yarashus, who was preparing to visit lawmakers with one organized group.
“I believe self-defense is the one of the most basic of human rights,” he said. “We need laws. That allow people to protect themselves.”
Lobbying in the Pocahontas building is busy, but not overwhelming on Monday morning. Groups, almost all wearing "Guns save lives" stickers, are waiting in lines outside of legislators' offices for a chance to sit down with them for a few minutes.
BRIDGET BALCH
Thomas New, of Henrico, says some lawmakers are more willing to listen than others.
“Dick Saslaw doesn’t have the guts to talk to us,” New said of Senate Majority Leader Dick Saslaw, D-Fairfax. “Creigh Deeds does.”
Deeds is a Democratic senator from Bath County whose district includes Charlottesville.
New is a Revolutionary War re-enactor — he portrays a frontier scout — who said he worked for a security alarm company when Richmond was “the murder capital of the country.”
He contends that the one-gun-a-month law passed under then-Gov. Doug Wilder contributed to gun violence in the city, while concealed carry of firearms helped.
“If you send a message to criminals, they get it,” New said.
Kevin Brown came to Richmond from Southern California, but not for the rally.
Brown, 30, is a computer software engineer who is visiting for work training.
But he’s also an amateur historian — wearing a shirt with the Virginia state seal — who is concerned about government taking away firearms as a first step to total control.
“I’m here primarily because inch by inch the government has been basically taking the firearms,” he said.
Brown called “red flag” legislation that would allow temporary confiscation of guns from people found to be dangerous a “literally Soviet Union style snitching law.”
- Michael Martz, Times-Dispatch