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Global Stocks Fall as China Locks Down Cities; Shanghai Composite Index slides 2.8%, its biggest drop since May
Thursday, January 23, 2020, 11:31 AM ET
By Steven Russolillo and Michael Wursthorn
Wall Street Journal

Stocks from New York to London to Shanghai slumped Thursday, as China grappled with a worsening viral outbreak that led investors to reassess the potential economic fallout world-wide.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 173 points, or 0.6%, to 29013 in recent trading, as most of the 30 stocks in the index suffered losses. The S&P 500 declined 0.4%, and the Nasdaq Composite slid 0.2%.

The U.S. selloff followed the Shanghai Composite's biggest drop since May
. The benchmark sank 2.8% on the final day of trading before the market closes for the Lunar New Year holiday period.

Investors, meanwhile, sought safety in traditional haven assets, sending gold and bonds prices higher.

The Chinese government on Thursday locked down Wuhan , where the new coronavirus originated, as well as a second city in a dramatic escalation of efforts to contain the outbreak that has killed at least 17 people and infected more than 500 so far. The lockdowns come shortly before one of the busiest travel periods for people in China and the region, which could enable the pneumonia-causing virus to spread further, authorities said.

Concerns about what the outbreak may mean for economic growth in China and elsewhere weighed on stocks in other parts of the world, said Lars Kreckel, global equity strategist at Legal & General Investment Management .

"What's going on right now is it's the coronavirus in China: that's worse than expected," Peter Garnry , head of equity strategy at Saxo Bank . "What the market is trying to price in is what is the economic cost."

The caution comes as investors look to past viral outbreaks , including severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, to assess how bad the damage could be on the economy and markets this time around.

Airlines listed in Hong Kong and Shanghai, including Cathay Pacific Airways , fell sharply. Airline stocks in the U.S. followed suit, with American Airlines Group and United Airlines Holdings shedding 3% and 1.9%, respectively.

The fallout from the outbreak also touched energy companies around the world. Crude oil prices slid 2.8% to $55.18 a barrel as investors worried the virus could dampen demand for the commodity.

Energy stocks, which are sensitive to swings in oil prices, fell 0.9% in recent trading.

Meanwhile, investors sought assets that tend to hold up better during volatile stretches.

Shares of utilities and real-estate stocks notched small gains, as investors sought income-generating stocks. Gold prices rose 0.4%. And the yield on the benchmark 10-year U.S. Treasury note fell to 1.720%, according to Tradeweb , from 1.768% a day earlier. Yields fall when prices rise.

The pullback in yields weighed on bank stocks as lower rates tend to compress their net interest margins, a key measure of lending profitability. Financial stocks in the S&P 500 slid 1.1%.

Amid the broad pullback, some of the biggest moves in individual stocks followed earnings.

Travelers led the Dow industrials lower, falling 5%, even after the insurer said catastrophe losses fell from a year earlier.

Shares of Procter & Gamble slipped 1.1% after the consumer-products giant's sales in the latest quarter fell short of analysts' expectations.

Later in the day, Intel is scheduled to report results.

Earnings so far have generally beaten analysts' expectations, according to Mr. Kreckel.

"This is not a part in the cycle where you get 10% earnings growth," Mr. Kreckel said. "But it's enough to keep equity markets where we are today."

--Caitlin Ostroff contributed to this article.

Write to Steven Russolillo at steven.russolillo@wsj.com and Michael Wursthorn at Michael.Wursthorn@wsj.com

Global Stocks Fall as China Locks Down Cities
 

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Reuters‏Verified account @Reuters 1m1 minute ago

Health officials fear the transmission rate of a new coronavirus will accelerate as hundreds of millions of Chinese travel at home and abroad for the Lunar New Year, which begins on Saturday
 

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BNO Newsroom‏Verified account @BNODesk 58s59 seconds ago

The World Health Organization is due to hold a press conference in 30 minutes (at 1 p.m. ET) on whether coronavirus is a public health emergency of international concern
 

goosebeans

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The Chinese infection numbers are so much "Hokum" just look at the statistical chance that 4000 infected people happened to have infected three travelers to Scotland. Zero Chance there may be 100,000 thousands of infections by now to translate to 3 upper class Chinese travelers arriving in Scotland at the same time. Unless it was a coordinated Biologic attack.

I hate to be the one to "go there", but it almost seems strategic. I mean, one here, one there, in all four corners of the globe. You would think it would be clusters of people . And no word of any in Africa yet, where China is very heavy into building infrastructure etc. That's one of the first places I expected to see numbers popping up.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I hate to be the one to "go there", but it almost seems strategic. I mean, one here, one there, in all four corners of the globe. You would think it would be clusters of people . And no word of any in Africa yet, where China is very heavy into building infrastructure etc. That's one of the first places I expected to see numbers popping up.


It's called air travel, people travel to all four corners of the globe on a hourly basis. It may be a month before we here anything out of Africa.
 

psychgirl

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This is all happening so fast I can hardly keep up. On my break, from ay least 5 pages added since I went to work this morning!
 

summerthyme

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I hate to be the one to "go there", but it almost seems strategic. I mean, one here, one there, in all four corners of the globe. You would think it would be clusters of people . And no word of any in Africa yet, where China is very heavy into building infrastructure etc. That's one of the first places I expected to see numbers popping up.
As far as Africa, except in a few modern cities, I doubt they even have test kits for this virus. And people in the bush who get sick rarely seek medical care (can be a several hour drive, or several DAY walk to the closest rudimentary clinic) unless they are dying...

Summerthyme
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
As far as Africa, except in a few modern cities, I doubt they even have test kits for this virus. And people in the bush who get sick rarely seek medical care (can be a several hour drive, or several DAY walk to the closest rudimentary clinic) unless they are dying...

Summerthyme

This^^^ And outside of the major cities this is why it'd be a month if not longer before we get any news of the virus on the continent, and that may not even happen from the major cities.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Yes, the incubation period is in the 3 week ballpark for some

And this is why I wanted to know if the chinese person in Seattle was a college student. University here started back up with classes last week, with many international students returning the week before classes started, so we're going into week two if not week three with returning asian students.
 

jward

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EndGameWW3 (@EndGameWW3) Tweeted:
Mexico: Jalisco Ministry of Health activates protocols for the three possible cases of coronavirus in Tepatitlán View: https://twitter.com/EndGameWW3/status/1220409173738913794?s=20


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EndGameWW3 (@EndGameWW3) Tweeted:
Mexico: There are five suspected cases, of which two have already been ruled out and three are still under analysis. View: https://twitter.com/EndGameWW3/status/1220407644294389760?s=20
 

wlf0wtr

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EndGameWW3 (@EndGameWW3) Tweeted:
Mexico: There are five suspected cases, of which two have already been ruled out and three are still under analysis. View: https://twitter.com/EndGameWW3/status/1220407644294389760?s=20
That's interesting because the person being detained & screened in LAX had arrived on a flight from Mexico City.
 

echo19

Senior Member
I tend to believe the latter items. China never ever reports the truth. If it is 600, then it is 6,000. If 6,000 then it really is 60,000 or 600,000. That is just the way they are.
Much like the Russians and Chernobyl.
 

jward

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jward

passin' thru
speaking of assuming its global... I would have sworn we it Canada last night, but Don't see that here...
..am I imagining things?
 
Disease detectives hunting down more information about 'super spreader' of Wuhan coronavirus
By Elizabeth Cohen, CNN Senior Medical Correspondent

Updated 9:54 AM ET, Thu January 23, 2020

CNN goes to ground zero of Wuhan coronavirus outbreak in China 02:45

(CNN)Of all the alarming aspects of the rapidly spreading new virus out Wuhan, China, this is perhaps the most alarming:

A single patient has infected 14 health care workers.

That's what's called a "super spreader," and disease detectives are hot on that patient's trail. It's one element to stopping the spread of this coronavirus that's killed 17 people and infected more than 500 in five different countries, including the United States.

CNN goes to ground zero of Wuhan coronavirus outbreak in China 02:45
Super spreaders are a crucial part of a disease outbreak. Think about Mary Mallon, or "Typhoid Mary," who was responsible for widely spreading typhoid in New York City in the early 1900s. Or the Chinese doctor who in 2003 spread SARS, or severe acute respiratory syndrome, to four different countries. Or the single patient at a South Korean hospital who in 2015 infected 82 people with MERS, or Middle East respiratory syndrome.
The Wuhan virus is a cousin of SARS and MERS. All three are coronaviruses.

Wuhan coronavirus death toll rises to 17 with 547 infected says China, sparking fears of wider spread
Wuhan coronavirus death toll rises to 17 with 547 infected says China, sparking fears of wider spread


The presence of a super spreader in Wuhan indicates that the virus can spread with some ease, said Michael Osterholm, an epidemiologist and professor at the University of Minnesota School of Public Health.
He calls them "super shedders," since they shed the virus -- for example, in sneezes or coughs -- in larger quantities than most other people.
"You only need one super shedder to say, 'This dog is going to hunt,' " he said. "It really does speak to the potential for this virus to be transmitted."
He added that there are probably more super spreaders -- or shedders -- of the Wuhan coronavirus than this one patient.
"If we have one super shedder, that tells us we're going to have more super shedders," he said. "If there's one, there will be more."
A visual guide to the Wuhan coronavirus
A visual guide to the Wuhan coronavirus

Osterholm's team at the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy is investigating the super spreader, and their research shows there might be more health care workers in or near Wuhan who've become infected than the 14 mentioned by the health official earlier this week.

Super spreaders in coronavirus outbreaks
On Tuesday, the mayor of Wuhan said one patient spread the coronavirus to a doctor and 13 nurses.
The deadly new coronavirus has reached the US. Here's how to protect yourself
The deadly new coronavirus has reached the US. Here's how to protect yourself

The mayor, Zhou Xianwang, said a patient wasn't screened for the virus before being admitted to Union Hospital in Wuhan for neurosurgery, and after surgery developed a fever. Zhou, who spoke on CCTV, the state-run television station, did not specify when this occurred.

Osterholm said his team's research shows that 20 health care workers have been infected by patients, with the other six cases possibly at hospitals in Wuhan and the nearby city of Huanggang.
Public health officials are trying to avoid devastating super spreader events that happened with SARS and MERS.
In 2003, a Chinese doctor who was staying at the Metropole Hotel in the city of Guangzhou infected other hotel guests who then traveled back to Vietnam, Hong Kong, Singapore and Canada. In Singapore alone, 94 cases of SARS can be traced back to the hotel, according to WHO.

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In 2015, there were five super-spreading events of MERS at hospitals in South Korea. In one case, a single patient spread the infection to 82 other people.
The ramifications were huge. Two South Korean hospitals closed down, nearly 17,000 people had to be quarantined, and the economic loss was estimated at 9.3 trillion Korean won, or $8.5 billion. In all, 186 people became infected in the South Korea MERS outbreak and 38 died, according to WHO.
CNN's Steven Jiang contributed to this story.


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