CORONA Main Coronavirus thread

DustyOpal

Contributing Member
I just can not keep up with this thread. I just don't have time every day to devote to it but I need to keep up with the news. Does anyone recommend another news source that is devoted to what is happening with the virus that I can check everyday? I need something that I can check and get a quick daily update on just the hard facts and not spend hours. Would Bannon's broadcast fit the bill? Any good twitter accounts?

I like the Peak Prosperity fellow on youtube. He seems to cover the most important articles and stats for the day.
 

EYW

Veteran Member
Just a heads up for Florida people -- there has been a case seen in an ER in Central Florida, very mild, probably the corona virus that goes around like all the other viruses. There are quite a few strains and only four are the bad ones. The test they use to determine flu will also indicate corona virus as well as other viruses, so there is testing available.

I do not want to give any location information on where the patient was treated. It is probably within 15 miles of me and I now live in Lakeland Highlands (no more EYW, now it is GIF -- LOL)
 

cyberiot

Rimtas žmogus
Wouldn't running a hot iron over it a few times kill the nasties? That sounds a lot easier and less time consuming.

I am disinclined to abandon my debit card in favor of cash. Much cleaner, in my mind, to use a single plastic card I can sanitize than to wrangle a bunch of cash that's been who-knows-where and is contaminated with who-knows-what.

Went grocery shopping today with an antimicrobial wipe stuck in my jacket pocket. Used my right index finger for all touching of potentially germy surfaces--opening refrigeration cases, entering my PIN in the point of sale terminal, etc. Touch, then immediately scrub off the finger with the wipe. A generous dose of hand sanitizer once back in the car. Perfect? No. Satisfactory for the current situation? I believe so. YMMV.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Health examines several Valencia fans for possible coronavirus symptoms
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So... Their emblem is a bat?

How ironic...

:D
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
Just a heads up for Florida people -- there has been a case seen in an ER in Central Florida, very mild, probably the corona virus that goes around like all the other viruses. There are quite a few strains and only four are the bad ones. The test they use to determine flu will also indicate corona virus as well as other viruses, so there is testing available.

I do not want to give any location information on where the patient was treated. It is probably within 15 miles of me and I now live in Lakeland Highlands (no more EYW, now it is GIF -- LOL)

I'm not trying to be contentious, but this simply can't be true. The most innacurate test for influenza is an enzyme linked immunoassay. It uses the specificity of antibodies for detection. Influenza and Covid have dramatically different antigenic sites that are not shared between the two viruses. It would be impossible for the influenza test to detect the coronavirus.

That is actually the primary reason that we do not have a rapid-test for this virus. We have to have an ability to produce monoclonal antibodies to Corona on a mass scale to create the test kits. Right now we rely on gene amplification technology to test for the actual segment of the Covid virus RNA.

The confusion comes from the commerically available PCR testing for respiratory bugs. It will detect the coronavirus but NOT Covid. The RNA is too different between the "common cold" coronavirus and Covid.
 

Krayola

Veteran Member
Here is a product that will help with dry hands (from washing them all the time.)

It is called Gloves in a Bottle. It is pricey but you don't have to use much, just a tiny bit. You don't have to slather it on like regular lotion. A bottle lasts a long time. It does not wash off. It comes off with exfoliated skin cells.


Product description:
  • RESTORES: Moisturizes dry irritated skin caused by harsh weather, irritants, soaps, and conditions such as eczema, psoriasis, and dermatitis by enhancing the integrity of the outer layer of the skin that allows the skin to heal from within.
  • BEYOND HYDRATION: This Soothing body lotion promotes healthy skin from within, lasting from 4 to 12 hours and does not wash off, ensuring long-lasting protection from home and workplace toxins. Provides relief from allergies and dry, itchy, cracked skin.
  • SHIELDING PROTECTION: Healing lotion that protects against environmental toxins, sanitizers, frequent hand-washing, and irritants found in cosmetic and cleaning products. Perfect for people with sensitive skin as it helps prevent skin allergies and rashes.
  • DERMATOLOGIST RECOMMENDED: Prescribed by skincare experts and doctors worldwide. Unparalleled relief for dry and cracked hands and feet. Apply a small amount on clean, dry skin; reapply every 4 to 12 hours. This lotion is non-greasy and fast-absorbing.
  • MADE IN THE USA: Gloves in a Bottle is hypoallergenic, vegan, cruelty-free, and every ingredient is on the FDA's most safe list.
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
WOO warning. Totally bonkers thought.

What if Trump ended China tonight? A Cuban Missle Crisis moment.

"My fellow Americans, I come to you tonight with troubling news. For the past several weeks we have been basing our coronavirus response on the officially reported numbers from China, the WHO, and other UN organizations.

We have discovered that this has been a series of lies. Here is satellite footage of mass graves....pictures of executions....We estimate that the actual number of cases is in the millions. These lies have not only endangered the US, but politicians and news organizations here have conspired with those forces to lie to the United States people.

We have posted on the WH website documents that show collusion between members the Democratic Party...."
 

Capt. Eddie

Veteran Member
WOO warning. Totally bonkers thought.

What if Trump ended China tonight? A Cuban Missle Crisis moment.

"My fellow Americans, I come to you tonight with troubling news. For the past several weeks we have been basing our coronavirus response on the officially reported numbers from China, the WHO, and other UN organizations.

We have discovered that this has been a series of lies. Here is satellite footage of mass graves....pictures of executions....We estimate that the actual number of cases is in the millions. These lies have not only endangered the US, but politicians and news organizations here have conspired with those forces to lie to the United States people.

We have posted on the WH website documents that show collusion between members the Democratic Party...."
I think you're dreaming, but I would love to see it.
 

EYW

Veteran Member
I'm not trying to be contentious, but this simply can't be true.

I have learned over my long life when someone says "I don't mean to be or I don't want to be --whatever-- BUT,' that is exactly what they want to be. I am reporting information told to me by a person who works at that hospital and had contact with the patient. So, whatever, if it is good enough for the medical personnel at that hospital to use then I will take their word for it.

And I did say corona virus. If the patient had serious symptoms that might indicate one of the serious strains. one would assume they would have received more serious treatment and testing than this patient received.
 

Trivium Pursuit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Dr. Mike Hansen (in that last clip a few pages back - I think,) said that studies failed to show that Vit C had any preventive or therapeutic effect on the flu, and could cause kidney stones.
Chanca piedra, " Stone breaker", is an Herb that is supposed to be helpful for breaking up and dissolving kidney stones. I'm going to be adding it to my regimen as I expect to be consuming a lot of C in the near future.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
What isn't true (as far as anyone has yet shared) is that the flu swabs show COVID19 exposure.

Demonstrate THAT and most folks will back off.
 

Bicycle Junkie

Resident dissident and troll
Chanca piedra, " Stone breaker", is an Herb that is supposed to be helpful for breaking up and dissolving kidney stones. I'm going to be adding it to my regimen as I expect to be consuming a lot of C in the near future.
Stay away from Chanka Piedra. I used it heavily (organic variety) to try to get rid of a big kidney stone. That was the only change in my diet. After a few months I got gastric cancer. I still have the stone. Now the big C is stage 4.
 

Squid

Veteran Member
So what’s up with the Demo hell with 2.5 billion we’ll borrow and spend 8 billion of other people’s money.

Cause we all know that the reason Italy and South Korea can test thousands in days while CDC fumbles around with a couple hundred is the US government spends so much less than thise countries.

The demo’s always have a list of special groups and pet companies staffed with relatives to add to any emergency appropriation and you never let a crisis go to waste.

Hell they probably have a couple tens of millions for planned parenthood cause any child aborted can’t get Corona, Right?

They think you collectively won’t catch on and if things get bad will demand More government as the savior and by golly the Demo’s are perfectly willing to shove lot’s more government down your throats.

After all they have gone to college and taken Lesbian dance theory in modern cinema courses so they know all about Microbiology and stuff.

Maybe when you spend the current Trillion dollars in ways that make sense and the clowns in the CDC can stop going to symposiums and learn how South Korea figured out how to ramp up testing and duuhhh maybe replicate that here we can up the spending.

Rant mode off,:eye:
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
One thing the US has done that I predict will not go down well with the public. HHS just testified that there was no shortage of PPE, however, N95 masks could become border line. That is not what the public is experiencing. They are very difficult to find, as are even surgical masks.

EVERY country has photos of the public wearing masks once the disease gets started. It is mandatory in many countries. Is the Administration going to be able to continue to say that everyday people don't need "protection" because it is of little value, but medical professionals need N95 masks to protect them? Ain't gonna fly when your kids go without but kids all over the world have protection.

What about transmittal? You know that telling Waldo to stay home when he feels sick is not going to happen if he needs a paycheck. (It doesn't now.) Surgical masks at least minimize droplet spread.

They have 1 US manufacturer of surgical masks in an almost empty factory in TX. Can they subsidize him in some way to expand production without leaving him vulnerable when the pandemic subsides to layoffs and bankruptcy? Can they secure contracts with the N95 mask makers who use US cotton and Mexico manufacturing to step that production up and ensure the Mexicans don't nationalize the production?
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
I just can not keep up with this thread.

And this thread IS the digest version of all the news out there :D. Anyone who can keep up with this thread has no life, and I say that as a person who has no life.

Another vote from me for Chris Martenson as the best sole source overview out there so far.

ETA - and DJT has punted to VP Pence on this problem.
 

bbbuddy

DEPLORABLE ME
Now it seems as if some still are not taking this virus serious and thinking it will all be normal. Today I gave my notice at work, for in April when it gets warmer, am leaving and heading to the wilds to be for a long long while. Now when giving my notice, some thought this thing would all blow over and others could tell do not take this Coronavirus Seriouly. Guess they will learn when it's a pandemic here in the US, then it will be too late. Yes in talking to various people as of late, it is amazing me just how many do not take this very serious if even thinking about it at all.

Now the last few years have been working at a local Dollar Tree in town where now am the freight manager. For years from spring to fall have lived in the wilds here in the west. In giving my notice, am now preparing bigtime to head back into these wilds and live. Going to self isolate myself in the deep wilds here in NW Wyoming. This thing is coming here to the US, if not already here, and it is already becoming the next worldwide pandemic. It seems anymore that this virus is spreading bigtime. It is changing every single day and where it is now and the numbers that are occurring. How can some people remain soooo clueless. Guess when it is too late then some of the sheeple will wake up. Wishing Everyone the Best!
Gros Ventre area?
 

Faroe

Un-spun
I have learned over my long life when someone says "I don't mean to be or I don't want to be --whatever-- BUT,' that is exactly what they want to be. I am reporting information told to me by a person who works at that hospital and had contact with the patient. So, whatever, if it is good enough for the medical personnel at that hospital to use then I will take their word for it.

And I did say corona virus. If the patient had serious symptoms that might indicate one of the serious strains. one would assume they would have received more serious treatment and testing than this patient received.

Your assertion is contrary to everything I have read and heard on the topic.
I concur with Rondaben's assessment.
 

bluelady

Veteran Member
ALL vitamin C in the world is made in China! No other sources. Ain't globalism grand?!

Summerthyme

Turns out there is *one* place in Scotland!

"To my knowledge, there is only one major supplier of Vitamin C outside of China and that is a Scottish lab called DSM."


Sorry, I'm on my phone and can't get the whole article to copy. It's a good one; can someone please do it for me? :)

Here is one brand with that C; don't know if there are more:

Liposomal Vitamin C Softgels 1000mg/dose - 3 Month Supply - 270 softgels - China-Free Quali®-C Scottish Ascorbic Acid - High Absorption Immunity & Collagen Booster Supplement - Non-GMO, Non-Soy https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CLD93Z5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_NqWvEbW5BMCSV
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Ah, my brother Squid.

Pelosi was damn near SCREAMING about DJT's "RANSACKING authorized funding accounts" and ESPECIALLY squawking about the EBOLA funds for the Congo (No SERIOUSLY..SCREAMING).

All I can figure is that her kid won't be getting his cut of those funds is her problem.
 

momengineer

Senior Member
Live updates: First U.S coronavirus case of unknown origin confirmed in Northern California, a sign the virus may be spreading in a local area


Trump holds news conference on coronavirus
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By
Michael Brice-Saddler,
Simon Denyer,
Siobhán O'Grady and
James McAuley
Feb. 26, 2020 at 5:40 p.m. CST
Refresh for updates
BREAKING: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has been informed of the first case of the coronavirus in a person who did not recently return from a foreign country or have contact with a confirmed case, according to a person briefed on the case. Officials have begun tracing the contacts of the resident to find out how the person may have been infected and who else might have been exposed..
This is a developing story. It will be updated.

A new case of coronavirus was confirmed in the United States on Wednesday as several other countries also confirmed new cases and deaths, and President Trump called for a 6:30 p.m. news conference with officials from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and others to discuss the spread of the virus. He accused the media of stoking panic about financial markets.


The Dow Jones industrial average endured its worst two-day slump in four years Tuesday. On Wednesday, it was up 300 points shortly after open, but closed down about 124 points.
On European and Asian financial markets, economic alarms continued to flash, however, with cases spreading and little sign that the epidemic was relenting after the CDC warned of the “inevitable” spread in the United States of covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.
France reported the first death of a French citizen from the epidemic as cases grew rapidly across Europe, with Spain confirming eight new cases in the past 24 hours and new infections reported in Germany, Greece, France, Croatia, Austria and Switzerland. A new case in Brazil marks the first known case in Latin America. Although China announced a decline in new confirmed cases on Wednesday, the number of infected people soared in South Korea to more than 1,200, with more expected in the coming days as the state attempts to test 200,000 people.


Here are the latest developments:
● A new case of coronavirus was confirmed in the United States on Wednesday, bringing the total number of cases in the country to 60. The CDC did not specify Wednesday how that person contracted the virus.
● France reported the first coronavirus death of a French citizen amid a dramatic uptick in cases within Europe. Most new cases are connected to an outbreak in northern Italy, still the largest on the continent.
● Brazil confirmed its first case, which also marks the first known case in Latin America.
● Statistics released by the Chinese government showed a decline in the number of new cases in mainland China; an additional 406 cases were reported Wednesday morning, along with 52 deaths. All but five of the new cases and all of the new deaths were in Hubei province.
● South Korea reported 284 additional cases of the coronavirus Wednesday, raising the national tally to 1,261. That number is expected to rise in coming days as the country begins the mass testing of more than 200,000 members of a messianic religious movement at the center of an outbreak in the city of Daegu.
Mapping the spread of the coronavirus | What we know about the virus
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Turns out there is *one* place in Scotland!

"To my knowledge, there is only one major supplier of Vitamin C outside of China and that is a Scottish lab called DSM."


Sorry, I'm on my phone and can't get the whole article to copy. It's a good one; can someone please do it for me? :)

Here is one brand with that C; don't know if there are more:

Liposomal Vitamin C Softgels 1000mg/dose - 3 Month Supply - 270 softgels - China-Free Quali®-C Scottish Ascorbic Acid - High Absorption Immunity & Collagen Booster Supplement - Non-GMO, Non-Soy Amazon.com: Liposomal Vitamin C Softgels 1000mg/dose - 3 Month Supply - 270 softgels - China-Free Quali®-C Scottish Ascorbic Acid - High Absorption Immunity & Collagen Booster Supplement - Non-GMO, Non-Soy: Health & Personal Care
Good to know!

Summerthyme
 

ktrapper

Veteran Member
Chanca piedra, " Stone breaker", is an Herb that is supposed to be helpful for breaking up and dissolving kidney stones. I'm going to be adding it to my regimen as I expect to be consuming a lot of C in the near future.
I use Chanca Piedra 3 weeks on 3 weeks off.
Been doing that for about 3 years. My kidneys seem to function better. I use to have kidney pain but after starting using CP it went away. I believe it has dissolved the sand that builds up over time.
Last physical I had. Dr. Said my kidney function was completely normal.
 

desertvet2

Veteran Member
Report from north Idaho...Walmart is getting hammered. No freeze dried stuff, very lite T.P. ,and the wife said it looks like the masses have awakened. Large holes in supply, and...AND... SIGNS that say not available due to.....SUPPLY ISSUES.

I HOPE YOU HAVE BEEN BUSY LITTLE SQUIRRELS.
 
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