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marsh

On TB every waking moment
This is from yesterday afternoon....

Four new cases of coronavirus confirmed in Northern California

Four new cases of coronavirus confirmed in Northern California
Four people who were quarantined at Travis Air Force Base near Fairfield have tested positive for coronavirus and been moved to area hospitals.
CORONAVIRUS


Author:Becca Habegger
Published:3:24 PM PST February 25, 2020
Updated:3:47 PM PST February 25, 2020

FAIRFIELD, Calif. — Four patients with newly confirmed cases of coronavirus [COVID-19] are now receiving treatment at Northern California hospitals, a CDC spokesperson confirms.
These four patients are Americans who were evacuated from the Diamond Princess cruise ship in Japan and brought to Travis Air Force Base in Solano County for a 14-day period of quarantine. On Monday afternoon, CDC officials said test results came back positive for four of the evacuees staying at Travis. Hours later, they were taken to hospitals in Napa, Sonoma and Contra Costa counties.

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That brings the total number of Diamond Princess passengers evacuated to Travis Air Force Base who then tested positive for the coronavirus, officially named COVID-19, to 19.
Of those 19, 15 patients — including the four newest cases — are in Northern California hospitals, spread over several counties. The remaining four were taken to medical facilities in the Spokane, Wash.
RELATED: CDC warns spread of coronavirus in US appears inevitable

CDC spokesperson Scott Pauley said patients are going to hospitals across several counties "to make sure the burden doesn’t overwhelm Solano County’s" health services and system. This also isn't impacting the number of beds for regular hospital patients.
"COVID-19 patients require specialized isolation rooms where the average hospital patient would not stay," Pauley said.
He also explained by spreading the patients across multiple counties, the CDC isn't expanding the risk of exposure because every hospital, "has CDC protocols in place."
"Nobody in the community or hospitals are at heightened risk," Pauley added.
RELATED: Drugmaker Moderna ships possible coronavirus vaccine for testing
The CDC expects more test results soon from those who were evacuated to Travis AFB
Yep, this was the inevitable alternative if they couldn't stay at Travis and they couldn't find an intermediate bed in Costa Mesa at that empty facility (blocked by the City Council of Costa Mesa.)

This is likely why the CDC was talking about triage yesterday. They need to sort people out through a gatekeeper prior to entry into hospital facilities. They will test and most will be sent home for home care. Only those needing ICU/respirators will be allowed in the hospital to use one of its few rooms. Now these folk needing only intermediary care are occupying those special rooms as there is no longer somewhere to put them.

They need to hustle to find and remodel some intermediary facilities just like Wuhan did.
 

Jonas Parker

Hooligan

UK Government Document Warns Coronavirus Could Infect 80 Per Cent, Kill Half a Million Brits
Worst case scenario leaked.
Published 1 min ago on 26 February, 2020 Paul Joseph Watson

A leaked UK government document warns that under a worst case scenario, 80 per cent of Brits could be infected with the coronavirus and half a million would die.

The document, which was leaked to the Sun newspaper, outlines “the reasonable worst case” outcome in which four fifths of the country to succumb to the virus.

“The current planning assumption is that 2-3 per cent of symptomatic cases will result in a fatality,” states the document, meaning that 500,000 would die.

A spokesman for the Department of Health and Social Care emphasized that such numbers were a worst case scenario and “this does not mean we expect it to happen.”
Earlier today, more than 300 staff members of American oil company Chevron were evacuated from a building in London’s Canary Wharf after an employee returning from an infected country reported flu symptoms.

There are currently only 13 confirmed cases of coronavirus in England, although the World Health Organization just warned countries outside of China that they were “simply not ready” for the spread of the virus.

“It can get ready very fast, but the big shift has to be in the mindset,” said Dr Bruce Aylward, the WHO’s China envoy.

For the first time, more new cases have been reported in countries outside of China than inside, with 411 inside China and 427 outside.

The WHO’s Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said the sudden rise in coronavirus cases in Italy, Iran and South Korea was “deeply concerning.”

As we highlighted yesterday, despite the rapid spread of the virus in Italy, EU officials have refused to consider closing the borders.
 

Zagdid

Veteran Member

First US military coronavirus infection confirmed in South Korea as cases hit 1,261

Agence France-Presse
Published: 9:39am, 26 Feb, 2020
fair use

South Korea’s coronavirus case total jumped well into four figures on Wednesday as authorities reported 284 new infections, taking the overall tally to 1,261, by far the largest outside China.

Among the new infections, a US soldier stationed in South Korea has tested positive for the coronavirus, commanders said on Wednesday, the first US serviceman to do so.

The soldier is stationed at Camp Carroll, 30km north of Daegu, US Forces Korea said in a statement, adding that he had been put in self-quarantine at his off-base residence. South Korean authorities and US military health professionals were tracing his contacts to determine if other people may have been exposed.

About 28,500 US troops are stationed in South Korea as deterrence against potential aggression from North Korea. United States Forces Korea previously said a widowed dependent had the virus, the first case involving a USFK-related individual. South Korea’s 600,000-member military has reported 18 cases and placed thousands of soldiers in quarantine as a precaution.


Two bowling alleys at Camp Walker and Camp Carroll and a golf course at Camp Walker were closed after the soldier’s case was confirmed. All restaurants at the bases, and also Camp Henry and Camp George in Daegu, will now provide only takeaway meals with soldiers and family members prohibited from dining there.

The Korea Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC) also confirmed an 11th person has died: a Mongolian man in his 30s who became the first foreign national to fall victim to the outbreak. Yonhap reported that he had been in hospital in the South awaiting a liver transplant.
 

vector7

Dot Collector
View: https://twitter.com/Teresa67161978/status/1232749830692171777

View: https://twitter.com/ViralNewzzz/status/1232035565446393856


 
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rondaben

Veteran Member
And on top of all that, if these hospitals don’t get on the ball and start training the ED and ICU staff how to use the space suit gear we have been seeing in the china vids, then the health care workers will be screwed.

The effective versions of those run about $1700. How many of them do you think they have on hand?

Where are they manufactured?
 

rlm1966

Veteran Member
I think an All is well statement will be made. I honestly think the only reason he is even doing this is because of the past two days in the stock market.
That would be down right stupid as most any idiot can see how this is spreading. Far better to say this is a terrible event but one we will rise to the occasion of and that it is a wake-up call to us as a nation to start rapidly bringing back our manufacturing to our country. Go a step further and close the borders for 30 days for all non-essential travel with the understanding that those that leave the country during that time will be subject to a 30 day quarantine at a govco facility. Perhaps even offer some grants/tax incentives to kick off the bring manufacturing home campaign.
 

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Snip from Hannity's opening segment.

Some company is shipping a first trial of covid vaccine for government testing.

He may have said trials on humans, but not sure.

FWIW
 
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Texican

Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
So butt kissing is out for now....??

Just asking????

20G,

You now have a valid reason to tell your DW and boss that butt kissing is out for now until further notice due to the Wuhan Flu....

May not go over so well with our DW.... Probably wouldn't do that....

Texican....
 
Hawaii officials urge preparing 14-day emergency kit in case of coronavirus outbreak

Hawaii officials urge preparing 14-day emergency kit in case of coronavirus outbreak


  • ASSOCIATED PRESS                                Governments around the world are scrambling to cope with or prepare for COVID-19. Above, workers disinfected subway trains against coronavirus in Tehran, Iran, early this morning.

    ASSOCIATED PRESS

    Governments around the world are scrambling to cope with or prepare for COVID-19. Above, workers disinfected subway trains against coronavirus in Tehran, Iran, early this morning.



Tiare Lando already has stockpiled 14 days of food, medicine and supplies for her family of six but is still unsure how to prepare for the increased likelihood of a coronavirus outbreak in the islands.

“As a family it’s just been a really huge concern for us. It doesn’t really seem clear how we can prepare besides food rations and those kinds of things. This pandemic is something at a whole ’nother level,” said the 37-year-old Kailua resident. “We don’t have a global awareness about something biological or something that is on the cellular level that can affect all of us. We don’t know how to protect and brace ourselves for that. We never, as a state, have been properly educated on how to prepare for this.”

Hawaii health officials are urging the public to prepare for a future outbreak of COVID-19, which has infected nearly 80,000 people across the globe and killed at least 2,700. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is warning Americans that the virus likely will start spreading in the United States, though the severity and intensity of an outbreak is unknown.
The Department of Health is advising residents to start immediately preparing a family plan, particularly in large households to prevent the spread of illness, as well as 14-day supplies of food, water and medications for both people and pets.

“While no cases of COVID-19 have been identified in Hawaii at this time, we do expect to eventually identify cases here because it is a global threat to our entire nation,” said DOH Deputy Director Danette Tomiyasu. “While an imminent threat to Hawaii is low, our state, local and county agencies are intensifying our preparations, and we are asking the community to take steps now should the risk of community spread increase. We really are shifting from a containment posture to mitigation because we will likely see it in our community.”

House Finance Committee Chairwoman Sylvia Luke announced Tuesday that lawmakers are positioning a bill to help finance “certain quarantine methods” and the purchase of additional thermal scanners to assist the Health Department in identifying coronavirus cases.

“We currently do not know the extent of the impact of the virus in the state,” and lawmakers want to have a vehicle ready to respond quickly to any unmet needs, said Luke (D, Punchbowl-Pauoa-Nuuanu). “We’re not here to cause any kind of concern, but it’s always better to be prepared and have a bill moving. The members are very concerned (about) the fact that the state and the federal government are not well equipped to have test kits, and the fact that there’s slowness in the response.”

Lt. Gov. Josh Green added, “Our hope remains that we do all that we can to prevent any cases of coronavirus in Hawaii. As the pandemic has spread, the probability’s higher that it will manifest in some cases in faraway places like Hawaii, so we want people to be prepared in case that happens. We are having discussions about what to do should this become a global pandemic. These discussions include what large events would be safe to have, how we would deal with large groups of people gathering together, school programs and school schedules. The risks remains that it could spread everywhere because it’s already in Europe, Asia and the Middle East.”

The U.S. State Department is urging people not to travel to China and is recommending Americans “exercise increased caution” — especially older adults and those with medical conditions — when traveling to South Korea and Japan. Hawaiian Airlines has issued a travel waiver for connecting flights or those departing to and from South Korea from Feb. 24 to April 30 and from China from Jan. 27 to March 31.

Meanwhile, the DOH is monitoring 61 people who traveled to China in the past 14 days — 55 on Oahu, four on Hawaii island, one on Maui and one on Kauai — for any symptoms of the virus.

“The greatest concern for me as a parent … is that we don’t even know where we would call for help,” Lando said. “It doesn’t seem that our health care system is prepared to help us, and that’s the greatest concern that I have. It seems that ‘bunker down and weather this out on your own’ is kind of the best policy. That’s the most unsettling thing. We are the perfect petri dish for something like this, to be in the middle of the ocean. We’ve been an open door up until now … for anybody to come through. It’s not even if, it’s when it takes place here, what will even our national government do for us?”

BE PREPARED

>> Prepare a family plan. If you have a large family in one home, consider what measures you can take to prevent the spread of illness.

>> Prepare a kit similar to those used during hurricane seasons. These should include a 14-day supply of food, water and other necessities.

>> Set aside a three-month emergency supply of any needed medication, and keep a copy of your prescriptions in case you run out of medication.

>> Don’t forget supplies for your pets.

>> Sign up for daily public notifications at health. hawaii.gov/news/covid-19-updates.

>> For more information, go to health.hawaii.gov/ prepare/protect-your-family/prepare-an- emergency-kit.

>> Call 211 if seeking help regarding the virus.

Source: State Department of Health


HOW TO STAY HEALTHY

>> Wash hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds or use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer.

>> Avoid touching the eyes, nose and mouth with unwashed hands.

>> Keep away from sick people.

>> Stay home when ill.

>> Cover coughs and sneezes with tissue, then throw in the trash.

>> Disinfect frequently touched objects and surfaces.

Source: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention



Star-Advertiser staff writer Kevin Dayton contributed to this report.
 
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Melodi

Disaster Cat
If I recall, the concept of "public health" arose from the incidence of illness arising from the slums of places like New York. People outside realized that that their family's health was impacted by the conditions there. (Something the people of LA and San Fran seemed to have forgotten.)
It was a combination of fighting the great epidemics of the late 19th and early 20th centuries combined with hordes of young men being disqualified for the draft during WW1 because they were so malnourished and unhealthy especially from urban areas.

Sadly over the last 50 or so years, disease in the West (especially the USA) has come to be thought of something that is "your fault" there is this secular Calvinist idea what if your "follow the rules you will not get sick and if you don't you will."

While that is true to a point when it comes to some lifestyle diseases, it has very little to do with who does and does not catch an epidemic disease.

Having an underlying condition or being young and healthy (in 1918) can both contribute to illness depending on the bug, the main thing is that yes, the germs will infect anyone.

Also, if I were in charge of San Francisco/LA/Seattle or another large city with a huge homeless population I would not only be looking a the very real risk of such a population for spreading disease but also the use of "epidemic" special measures to round people up off the streets and move them into "quarantine zone" that can later turn into "shelters."

That makes it legal to do what a lot of cities probably want to do anyway, which does get people off the street at least for the moment.
 

Zagdid

Veteran Member
Snip from Hannity's opening segment.

Some company is shipping a first trial of covid vaccine for government trials.

He may have said trials on humans, but not sure.

FWIW
Saw story yesterday that drug co was starting human trials.


Moderna Surges After Shipping Coronavirus Vaccine For Human Trials
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
ALL vitamin C in the world is made in China! No other sources. Ain't globalism grand?!

Summerthyme
Dr. Mike Hansen (in that last clip a few pages back - I think,) said that studies failed to show that Vit C had any preventive or therapeutic effect on the flu, and could cause kidney stones.
 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
Very strange Helen. I’m not sure where your ideas about AI shaping responses comes from, but I have been (((thinking))) along those same lines for the last two days.

Almost get the sense HUMINT is taking orders from alphaindia.

I concur, help people where you can. There was no overt chaos yesterday when I was standing in a coffee shop and the person in front of me, a tatted up hardcore ex-banger type born again Christian asked the barista if they had elderberry tea...? (((Coincidence)))

I asked him ‘what was he looking for’ as he asked again elderberry tea.

Didn’t I just post yesterday about finding organic elderberry tea at the grocery store. I had 4-boxes in the car. I ended up giving one away. Handshakes and God bless You’s were exchanged.

I’ve spent the last three weeks getting people up to speed with self help info. From my neighbor a dentist to eager to learn co-workers. I don’t do bleeding heart stuff, I help those looking to help themselves and others.

Feels good. :chg:
 

raven

TB Fanatic
I think anyone that travels outside the country should be required to
pay for the coronavirus test and 14 days of government quarantine upon their return
"before they leave the country".
as a matter of fact
I think anyone who visits this country should be required to
pay for the coronavirus test and 14 days of government quarantine
"before they enter the country".
I am not understanding why everyone wants to pay for someone else's vacation expenses.
 

cyberiot

Rimtas žmogus
I did my Sam's run today. Could not tell that anyone there was shopping for the virus. Saw only ONE lady wearing a mask--Asian. Kept my distance from her. All shelves well-stocked, no shortages. Did get one of the last packages of my favorite TP (Scott's) but plenty of other brands still there. Absolutely FURIOUS to discobaver you can no longer buy those great big cardboard boxes of Carnation powdered milk! They apparently no longer make / sell it! I am furious with myself that I recently donated all my old Y2K supply of powedered milk (something like 15 boxes) to a food donation center---I figured it was old and I'd just get some new at Sam's. Didn't know they had STOPPED MAKING IT except in little bitty bags or small cans!!! Even on the internet couldn't find it. Finally bought two BAGS (plastic BAGS---am concerned how well those are sealed and will last) at Kroger. ANYONE KNOW WHERE I can get LARGE boxes of powdered milk anymore?

Don't beat yourself, Countrymouse. Your Y2K milk was 20 years old, and those boxes aren't airtight. Bet if you opened one, the smell would knock a buzzard off a $#!+wagon. Don't ask me how I know. :kk1: You're better off with airtight cans and bags, however small.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
14% of Recovered Covid-19 Patients in Guangdong Tested Positive Again

I think that means they weren't "recovered". I'm starting to think that this virus has some properties of malaria... Where once you catch it, you are infected for life and, time to time, suffer flare ups...
 

end game

Veteran Member
Revised percentages for extra-strength Doom:
- 327 million citizens
- 50% catch it (being especially doomerish with that number) = 163,500,000 cases...
- 75% of the cases are mild to not noticed, leaves 25% with doctor visits or 40,875,000 patients...
- 2% of those patients succumb to Kung Flu = 817,500 deaths
- All of those cases will likely slow creep over the course of a few months UNLESS we lock-down the country.
- Yes, some people will die of non-COVID19 factors because the hospitals are overwhelmed

My numbers/calcs above, are worse than the numbers we are actually seeing outside of China. Time will tell, but even in my apocalyptic scenario, we don't end up with as many deaths as you laid out.

Yes, this bug is worse than the Flu. Yes, it will cause suffering and disruption. Yes, it will re-shape our political and social behavior a bit. It is not, however, going to be TEOTWAWKI.
Taking your numbers and extrapolating one number which would be the cost of testing @ $3000 per person would translate to 122,625,000,000. I'm using the 3K figure from an earlier post that said a man was charged around $3500 for the test. So the $122.6 trillion figure doesn't include the hospital, doctor's bills, drugs, or any other treatment necessary. I'd say the total figure cost of treatment and mitigation as well as personal financial loss might be a figure that takes the entire financial system down.
 

Capt. Eddie

Veteran Member

Clinical trials of drug to treat coronavirus begin at University of Nebraska Medical Center

OMAHA, Neb. —
A clinical trial for a drug to treat COVID-19, or coronavirus, has begun at the University of Nebraska Medical Center.

The trial regulatory sponsor is the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, part of the National Institutes of Health. This is the first clinical trial in the United States to evaluate an experimental treatment for COVID-19, the respiratory disease first detected in December 2019 in Wuhan, Hubei Province, China.

The randomized, controlled clinical trial of the investigational antiviral remdesivir is being tested by hospitalized adults diagnosed with coronavirus disease. Remdesivir is an investigational broad-spectrum antiviral treatment.

The first trial participant is an American who was brought to Omaha after being quarantined on the Diamond Princess cruise ship that docked in Yokohama, Japan and volunteered to participate in the study.

There are no specific therapeutics approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to treat people with COVID-19.

As of February 24, the World Health Organization (WHO) has reported 77,262 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and 2,595 deaths in China and 2,069 cases of COVID-19 and 23 deaths in 29 other countries. There have been 14 confirmed COVID-19 cases reported in the United States and an additional 39 cases among persons repatriated to the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Dr. Andre Kalil, the infectious diseases specialist and professor of internal medicine who is leading the first clinical trial for the first drug to treat COVID-19, spoke to the media and answered questions in the video below:
 

Terrwyn

Veteran Member
EndGameWW3 Retweeted
Wars on the Brink (current focus coronavirus)
@WarsontheBrink


Now the worrying thing of Pakistan’s first patient of #coronavirus (not second one) Returned to Pakistan to #Iran on 20th Feb. Today is 26th, This means he got 6 days to spread the virus. This is ALARMING. Count the Places he visited, people he talked too, The Bus he travelled.
One point that I have made before is that it really isn't the mortality rate that is so concerning about this virus. Lets say for argument's sake that it is 5%. Our best estimate is that his thing has a 60-70% attack rate. In this coungry lets say we are better off and go with half that--35%.

Thats 122 million infections. Overall consistent breakdown of case loads has been that 15-20% will need inpatient medical care of some form. Lets say that due to better hygeine, vaccinations, education and diet we can cut that in half to say 10%. That is 12.2 million cases that will require hospitalization or more intensive management such as antibiotics, fluids, supplemental oxygen, etc. Of those 12.2 million cases, roughly 10-15% will require ICU care with mechanical ventilation or ECMO. Lets go with the lower number there of 10%. 1.22 million americans would need ventilators. The existing mortality of those on vent is around 67%. Wihout vent and in ARDS That number will go to, at a minimum, 80-90%.

There are between 900,000 and 1 million hospital beds in total in the United States. Of those, roughly 80,000 are ICU beds. There are roughly 65,000 mechanical ventilators in the US.

So, using those numbers what is the impact?

You have 1/3rd of the US missing work, missing mortgage and car payements, and clogging up health care systems. 12 million of them will need intervention, be we only have beds for roughly 7-8%. Those who are not admitted will have to use oxygen at home (If it is available) and will be much more prone to infect others and experience seconary infections. The eventual rate of death of these will not be unsubstantial. Of those, 1.22 milion will need ventilators. Just short of 1 million of them will likely die because there are no ventilators available.

Why those numbers could be too optomistic:

1. The supply chain disruptions will seriously impact healthcare above and beyond the demands from Covid. Without medications, supplies, PPE the entire system will come to a stop. No surgeries, no chemotherapy, no heart medication, insulin, BP meds, etc. Not only will this cause their own, higher morbidity/mortality it will increase the attack rate and poor outcomes of those co-infected with Covid.
2. Economic problems have the potential to lead to food shortages, predatory lending, and unrest. Recent articles I have read were saying that 1/3rd of americans--regardless of income up to 200,000/year, run out of money before the end of the month. This would indicate that they have no savings/reserves and mandatory quarantine and the stop of those needed paychecks will cause shortages and defaults. This will ripple through the system.
3. Federal bailouts of the financial system will likely lead to unrest. We bailed them out in 2008. It is unlikely that if we bail them out in 2020 and a large part of population suffering without a "bailout" will simply not tolerate it.
4. The entire health system will collapse under the cost of treatment of millions. Insurers will decline payment because the infection is an "act of God" or will simply go bankrupt. The ramifications of this are clear--it will be taken over by the federal government.
5. We are only talking about Covid here. not heart disease, trauma, cancer, COPD, diabetes, etc. Those cases all need care as well.

Don't beat yourself, Countrymouse. Your Y2K milk was 20 years old, and those boxes aren't airtight. Bet if you opened one, the smell would knock a buzzard off a $#!+wagon. Don't ask me how I know. :kk1: You're better off with airtight cans and bags, however small.
So, that means you know the REAL mortality rate?

:hmm:
I'm all messed up trying to say anything on here. I didn't see this news bit on here but may have missed it. Anyway, local news had a story about a S. Korean airline stewardess that became ill with the virus.
She worked the Korea to LAX flight. The consequences of that are yet to be felt.
 

Capt. Eddie

Veteran Member

For the second time this week, an American who has tested positive for the novel coronavirus has been brought to Nebraska.

The person, who was evacuated more than a week ago from a cruise ship off the coast of Japan, is the spouse of one of the 13 people who arrived in Omaha on Feb. 17 for monitoring and treatment of the coronavirus.

The person originally was being monitored at Travis Air Force Base in California.

Tuesday’s transfer is expected to be the last time spouses from the ship will be reunited at UNMC.

One of the people under quarantine on the campus still has a spouse in another quarantine location, but that person has tested negative for the virus. Those who are negative are not being transferred.

A 14th traveler arrived Monday evening from an Air Force installation near San Antonio.

The 15th passenger flew from California to Omaha’s Eppley Airfield late Tuesday. As with previous transfers, the person arrived at a remote area of the tarmac at Eppley. The traveler did not enter the main terminal.

After arriving, the passenger was taken directly to the National Quarantine Unit on the UNMC campus.

With the new traveler’s arrival, there are 13 in the 20-bed quarantine unit and two receiving care in the separate, 10-bed Nebraska Biocontainment Unit. Thirteen of the travelers have tested positive for the disease, called COVID-19. Two have tested negative. If the two remain healthy, they could leave quarantine Monday.
 

shane

Has No Life - Lives on TB

Housecarl

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Hawaii officials urge preparing 14-day emergency kit in case of coronavirus outbreak

Hawaii officials urge preparing 14-day emergency kit in case of coronavirus outbreak


  • ASSOCIATED PRESS                                Governments around the world are scrambling to cope with or prepare for COVID-19. Above, workers disinfected subway trains against coronavirus in Tehran, Iran, early this morning.

    ASSOCIATED PRESS

    Governments around the world are scrambling to cope with or prepare for COVID-19. Above, workers disinfected subway trains against coronavirus in Tehran, Iran, early this morning.



Tiare Lando already has stockpiled 14 days of food, medicine and supplies for her family of six but is still unsure how to prepare for the increased likelihood of a coronavirus outbreak in the islands.

“As a family it’s just been a really huge concern for us. It doesn’t really seem clear how we can prepare besides food rations and those kinds of things. This pandemic is something at a whole ’nother level,” said the 37-year-old Kailua resident. “We don’t have a global awareness about something biological or something that is on the cellular level that can affect all of us. We don’t know how to protect and brace ourselves for that. We never, as a state, have been properly educated on how to prepare for this.”

Hawaii health officials are urging the public to prepare for a future outbreak of COVID-19, which has infected nearly 80,000 people across the globe and killed at least 2,700. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is warning Americans that the virus likely will start spreading in the United States, though the severity and intensity of an outbreak is unknown.
The Department of Health is advising residents to start immediately preparing a family plan, particularly in large households to prevent the spread of illness, as well as 14-day supplies of food, water and medications for both people and pets.

“While no cases of COVID-19 have been identified in Hawaii at this time, we do expect to eventually identify cases here because it is a global threat to our entire nation,” said DOH Deputy Director Danette Tomiyasu. “While an imminent threat to Hawaii is low, our state, local and county agencies are intensifying our preparations, and we are asking the community to take steps now should the risk of community spread increase. We really are shifting from a containment posture to mitigation because we will likely see it in our community.”

House Finance Committee Chairwoman Sylvia Luke announced Tuesday that lawmakers are positioning a bill to help finance “certain quarantine methods” and the purchase of additional thermal scanners to assist the Health Department in identifying coronavirus cases.

“We currently do not know the extent of the impact of the virus in the state,” and lawmakers want to have a vehicle ready to respond quickly to any unmet needs, said Luke (D, Punchbowl-Pauoa-Nuuanu). “We’re not here to cause any kind of concern, but it’s always better to be prepared and have a bill moving. The members are very concerned (about) the fact that the state and the federal government are not well equipped to have test kits, and the fact that there’s slowness in the response.”

Lt. Gov. Josh Green added, “Our hope remains that we do all that we can to prevent any cases of coronavirus in Hawaii. As the pandemic has spread, the probability’s higher that it will manifest in some cases in faraway places like Hawaii, so we want people to be prepared in case that happens. We are having discussions about what to do should this become a global pandemic. These discussions include what large events would be safe to have, how we would deal with large groups of people gathering together, school programs and school schedules. The risks remains that it could spread everywhere because it’s already in Europe, Asia and the Middle East.”

The U.S. State Department is urging people not to travel to China and is recommending Americans “exercise increased caution” — especially older adults and those with medical conditions — when traveling to South Korea and Japan. Hawaiian Airlines has issued a travel waiver for connecting flights or those departing to and from South Korea from Feb. 24 to April 30 and from China from Jan. 27 to March 31.

Meanwhile, the DOH is monitoring 61 people who traveled to China in the past 14 days — 55 on Oahu, four on Hawaii island, one on Maui and one on Kauai — for any symptoms of the virus.

“The greatest concern for me as a parent … is that we don’t even know where we would call for help,” Lando said. “It doesn’t seem that our health care system is prepared to help us, and that’s the greatest concern that I have. It seems that ‘bunker down and weather this out on your own’ is kind of the best policy. That’s the most unsettling thing. We are the perfect petri dish for something like this, to be in the middle of the ocean. We’ve been an open door up until now … for anybody to come through. It’s not even if, it’s when it takes place here, what will even our national government do for us?”

BE PREPARED

>> Prepare a family plan. If you have a large family in one home, consider what measures you can take to prevent the spread of illness.

>> Prepare a kit similar to those used during hurricane seasons. These should include a 14-day supply of food, water and other necessities.

>> Set aside a three-month emergency supply of any needed medication, and keep a copy of your prescriptions in case you run out of medication.

>> Don’t forget supplies for your pets.

>> Sign up for daily public notifications at health. hawaii.gov/news/covid-19-updates.

>> For more information, go to health.hawaii.gov/ prepare/protect-your-family/prepare-an- emergency-kit.

>> Call 211 if seeking help regarding the virus.

Source: State Department of Health


HOW TO STAY HEALTHY


>> Wash hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds or use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer.


>> Avoid touching the eyes, nose and mouth with unwashed hands.


>> Keep away from sick people.


>> Stay home when ill.


>> Cover coughs and sneezes with tissue, then throw in the trash.


>> Disinfect frequently touched objects and surfaces.


Source: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention



Star-Advertiser staff writer Kevin Dayton contributed to this report.

IMHO, the minimum "kit" should be 30 to 60 days, not 14 per person.
 

summerthyme

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Don't beat yourself, Countrymouse. Your Y2K milk was 20 years old, and those boxes aren't airtight. Bet if you opened one, the smell would knock a buzzard off a $#!+wagon. Don't ask me how I know. :kk1: You're better off with airtight cans and bags, however small.
Absolutely agree! Nonfat dry milk does *not* have an indefinite shelf life! It gets pretty funky after a couple of years, UNLESS it's stored in mylar with O2 absorbers, or is professionally canned or packed in a way that excludes oxygen.

Summerthyme
 

goosebeans

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If this virus really does live on surfaces much longer than previously thought, I'm also wondering if these "cured" patients are going back home to apartments that are still contaminated. I haven't heard anything about cleaning crews going in to people's vacant homes. The places are probably just as they were before the person was hauled off to the hospital. There's probably trash cans full of used tissues to dispose of, bedding to wash, dishes in the sink, etc.

And where's the first place you usually go when you get home? For me, it's the bathroom. :(
 

Capt. Eddie

Veteran Member

Norway detects its first case of coronavirus

OSLO (Reuters) - Norway’s Public Health Agency (FHI) said on Wednesday that one person had tested positive for coronavirus and was being kept isolated at home, in what was the country’s first confirmed case.

“This person is not showing symptoms but ... was tested after returning from the region of China where the outbreak began,” FHI director Line Vold told a news conference.

The number of new infections inside China - the source of the outbreak - was for the first time overtaken by those elsewhere on Wednesday as the virus spread to a growing number of countries.

The disease has infected about 80,000 people and killed more than 2,700, the vast majority in China.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
20G,

You now have a valid reason to tell your DW and boss that butt kissing is out for now until further notice due to the Wuhan Flu....

May not go over so well with our DW.... Probably wouldn't do that....

Texican....
One is work and one is fun..... I will continue the fun one......
 
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