WTF?!? Did you know there was a missile shot last night off CA coast?

[Joe America]

This is what you have all been looking for. The black bag false flag event.
1.Obman is out of the country. So he is safe.
2.His crew fires a missle unannounced toward the china area.
3. The Chinese get freaked out and fire one or a few at us.
4. Boom. a new diversion is established and Obman is safe from the new terrorist attack. Comes back home and he is now king for a day and ever. Implements all the commie plans and everyone is happy. But it seems to not have worked.

But where did the above mentioned missile fired from our coast come down??....that is the rest of the question that is not being answered

 

[energy_wave]

All this media/pentagon/military/FAA disinformation is disturbing....THEY KNOW but why are they lying about it???

So they have a good reason to say they have no idea what it was carrying or what it's destination was.

Might also have been a good way to test the other side and see how quickly they pick it up and react to it. Kinda like spooking the enemy to watch which way they scatter. Maybe monitor communications all the while.

 

[mt4design]

If they got it on video, then they knew it was coming. Not a bolt-out-of-the-blue. Someone in-house sending a message. Official responses part of that message.

Colonel, the video was from a traffic helicopter that happened to catch the launch as it was leaving the coast.

It was no "official" source.

If there was no OFFICIAL permission given for any private launch and no OFFICIAL notice by the military to local authorities then something else is going on here.

If it was a rogue shot heading away from the coast that came without warning then it seems like someone was either trying to draw fire or attack another nation and make it seem as if it was the U.S. as the attacker.

Either way, this is not your typical coastal launch of a missile off the Cali coast.

Mike

 

[intothatgoodnight]

I'm not seeing/hearing through the usual sources any sort of intensive activity that one would expect after something totally mysterious happened - ie P-3s hunting a sub etc. Granted, I'm a long distance away, but no one I've polled seems to be hearing or seeing anything.

Yup.

Does anyone know of a moveable, stand-alone UNDERWATER missile launch platform that can be quietly placed, awaiting remote activation?


intothegoodnight

 

[onetimer]

Highy visable launch and no PR plan.......hmmmm

 

[dissimulo]

The military was surprised by a large missile launched off our coast but didn't even attempt to shoot it down or locate and destroy the platform it was launched from? That seems unlikely, so I'll tentatively conclude that either it was not a missile or they were not surprised.

 

[pops88]

I posted a dream I had last night in "Unexplained" about California. I didn't want to side track this thread, but the timing and content were disturbing. Just just a head's up for anyone who might be interested.

 

[mzkitty]

Hmmm, shot off last night and nothing on the news until 12 hours later -- this morning?

 

[CTFIREBATTCHIEF]

I wonder where the shipping lanes, inbound and outbound are, heading to the port of Long Beach. Could it have been launched off of a container ship? Might want to check what was floating in the area bout sundown last evening.

 

[Double_A]

Yup.

Does anyone know of a moveable, stand-alone UNDERWATER missile launch platform that can be quietly placed, awaiting remote activation?


intothegoodnight

Sure it's called a submarine

 

[Little-Acorn]

Little-Acorn, I don't see anyone being hysterical over this.

Have enough "It wasn't one of ours, thrity miles off our coast" and "We're attacking somebody" and "Our military actually knows nothing about this" posts gone by, for you to revise your opinion yet?

 

[Double_A]

Hmmm, shot off last night and nothing on the news until 12 hours later -- this morning?

Sure that makes perfect sense and happens all the time. News takes time to disseminate. Often it's in local new and the MSM news networks scan their subsidiaries for local news that may be of national interest. Then it is broken nationally hours sometimes day later.

Now was/is that the case in this story, I don't know.

 

[mzkitty]

SOMEBODY was reviewing this missile shot from the moment it happened.

Or they wouldn't have taken 12 hours to let the info be released.

Just sayin' somebody KNOWS.

 

[Double_A]

Have enough "It wasn't one of ours, thrity miles off our coast" and "We're attacking somebody" and "Our military actually knows nothing about this" posts gone by, for you to revise your opinion yet?

Our military actually knows nothing about this" posts


Well isn't that what the military themselves said?

 

[mt4design]

I wonder where the shipping lanes, inbound and outbound are, heading to the port of Long Beach. Could it have been launched off of a container ship? Might want to check what was floating in the area bout sundown last evening.

Actually, that's an excellent point.

I believe that area is directly in the area of commercial shipping lanes which, to me, makes a U.S. naval launch even less likely.

Mike

 

[SIRR1]

I will bet it was a Sub launched missile by one of our boomers.

Gosh I hope to hell it was one of our Subs!

It looks just like the video from New Years Eve when a US sub launched a missile off of Key West at Sun set, the video is here somewhere...

SIRR1

 

[mt4design]

Have enough "It wasn't one of ours, thrity miles off our coast" and "We're attacking somebody" and "Our military actually knows nothing about this" posts gone by, for you to revise your opinion yet?

Unless you have some pertinent, inside information that you could share, I'm not seeing much in your posts that offers anything other than trolling.

Mike

 

[Hansa44]

Our military actually knows nothing about this" posts


Well isn't that what the military themselves said?

They also said they didn't know where 2 1/2 trillion dollars disappeared to.

 

[mzkitty]

Sure that makes perfect sense and happens all the time. News takes time to disseminate. Often it's in local new and the MSM news networks scan their subsidiaries for local news that may be of national interest. Then it is broken nationally hours sometimes day later.

Now was/is that the case in this story, I don't know.

Not at this level. I get breaking news all the time that is almost instantaneous. Something of THIS magnitude smells. Why do THEY want people to worry so? You should see the Tweetgrid going insane, plus all the websites that jumped on it. You would THINK our TPTB would not want that kind of stress put on the people. It's nuts. "Oh, WEEEEEE don't know nuffin' peasants, suck on that a while."

Yeah right.

 

[FREEBIRD]

"3. The Chinese get freaked out and fire one or a few at us. "

If the rest of your scenario was accurate, this would have happened already.

 

[rhughe13]

Of course the military knows exactly what happened. Within 30 seconds space based early warning satellites detected the launch and within an additional 30 seconds the satellites triangulated the launch position. Within a few more minutes everything is analyzed and they know what type of a missile it is and where it is aimed. Don't buy into the disinfo that is flying. I can't say for sure of course exactly who launched the missile but the military knows everything there is to know about it within minutes. It's Norad's job and they are very good at it.

Exactly. I'd be inclined to reduce that initial time much lower. The signature of the missile exhaust can be determined almost instantly as to its owner. Unless its home made, which I highly doubt.

 

[Double_A]

Here is a message I just received from the email service on missile launches. It doesn't clear up why no FAA notification was made.


launch-alert-editor@earthlink.net.

MYSTERY LAUNCH

This morning I have been hearing reports of a mystery missile launch last night off of the southern California Coast. One account of the launch is posted at:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/11/09/national/main7036716.shtml

Missile launches off of the southern California coast are not really that unusual. They have happened before from San Nicolas Island and from ships and submarines at sea.

As a matter of fact, the waters off of southern California contain an established range for testing and evaluating missiles, weapons systems, and so on.

Brian Webb

 

[DannyBoy]

Yeah, and it could just as easily have been the Russians or the ChiComms demonstrating to *US* that, "Yes, we can slip in that close to your coast undetected and launch a missile," proving that *THEY* can do that.

DING DING DING!!!

 

[Archetype]

Jim Miklaszewski at the Pentagon in his latest said that NORAD and NORTHCOM were sort of obliquely hinting that they knew what happened but weren't quite ready to say what, besides that it didn't appear to be a threat. Mik seemed to favor a screw-up of some kind. We shall see. I'm still not seeing any unusual activity.

 

[mzkitty]

Oh, now it could be a private company? Hmmmm.....


Pentagon can't explain 'missile' launch off California, says officials are looking into it

By PAULINE JELINEK | Associated Press | 23 minutes ago in Politics

The Pentagon Tuesday said it was trying to determine if a missile was launched Monday off the coast of Southern California and who might have launched it.


Spokesmen for the Navy, Air Force, Defense Department and North American Aerospace Defense Command said they were looking into a video posted on the CBS News website that appears to show a rocket or some other object shooting up into the sky and leaving a large contrail over the Pacific Ocean.

The video was shot by a KCBS helicopter, the station said Tuesday.

"Nobody within the Department of Defense that we've reached out to has been able to explain what this contrail is, where it came from," Lapan said. "So far, we've come up empty with any explanation."

Lapan said officials are talking to the Air Force, Navy and NORAD as well as civilian authorities who control and monitor air space.

"Right now, all indications are that there was not (Department of Defense) involvement in this," Lapan said, adding that some object might have been launched by a private company.

Officials had no information to make them suspect that the action was taken by any U.S. adversary.

"At this point, until we know more information about what it may have been, there is not alarm," Lapan said. "But that could change depending on what we find out."

___

Associated Press writer Jeff Wilson contributed to this report from Los Angeles.


http://www.newser.com/article/d9jco...ornia-says-officials-are-looking-into-it.html

 

[Double_A]

Not at this level. I get breaking news all the time that is almost instantaneous. Something of THIS magnitude smells. Why do THEY want people to worry so? You should see the Tweetgrid going insane, plus all the websites that jumped on it. You would THINK our TPTB would not want that kind of stress put on the people. It's nuts. "Oh, WEEEEEE don't know nuffin' peasants, suck on that a while."

Yeah right.

i dunno.

THIS magnitude is only this magnitude now, after it ramped up. I would guess it didn't start out as hot as this.

 

[mzkitty]

i dunno.

THIS magnitude is only this magnitude now, after it ramped up. I would guess it didn't start out as hot as this.

You could be right, but I don't trust anything they do. What this turned into regardless of what it really is/was -- is an experiment to see how everybody would react/jump about news of this nature. It's something else they can tuck in their sheeple-herding file now.

 

[mt4design]

From NPR

UPDATE, 12:33 p.m.: NPR's Tom Gjelten did some digging and Lt. Desmond James, a public affairs officer with NORAD, sent him this statement:

NORAD and USNORTHCOM are aware of the unexplained contrail reported off the coast of Southern California yesterday evening. At this time, we are unable to provide specific details, but we are working to determine the exact nature of this event. We can confirm that there is no indication of any threat to our nation and we will provide more information as it becomes available.​

I guess "no indication of any threat to our nation" could be logical considering nothing actually EXPLODED within CONUS.

Mike

 

[DannyBoy]

This is what you have all been looking for. The black bag false flag event.
1.Obman is out of the country. So he is safe.
2.His crew fires a missle unannounced toward the china area.
3. The Chinese get freaked out and fire one or a few at us.
4. Boom. a new diversion is established and Obman is safe from the new terrorist attack. Comes back home and he is now king for a day and ever. Implements all the commie plans and everyone is happy. But it seems to not have worked.

But where did the above mentioned missile fired from our coast come down??....that is the rest of the question that is not being answered

I see all kinds of possibilities here... could have been a missile that was "supposed" to head a different direction, like east maybe? could have been capped with something dirty? Could have been launched from a container as mentioned by a previous poster? As it was, it prolly landed in the ocean, but wow, folks this could have been the false flag, but got screwed up? How could our military not know who the launchers were??

The "unexplained contrail reported off the coast of Southern California yesterday" was a missile, a large missile.

Dan

 

[sy32478]

So they have a good reason to say they have no idea what it was carrying or what it's destination was.

Might also have been a good way to test the other side and see how quickly they pick it up and react to it. Kinda like spooking the enemy to watch which way they scatter. Maybe monitor communications all the while.

+1

A probe to see who scrambles and where. They probe us all the time, why think that we don't return the favor?

 

[Mark Armstrong]

It is being hinted that ObamAss may have ordered the missle test from one of our own subs... That he wanted to "show off" what we can do to impress those he is overseas with...

If Mr. Obama was demonstrating to someone what he, personally, could do at a moment's notice, it would be instructive to know who he was talking to at the time of the launch.

 

[maric]

One key thing I'm noticing is TPTB are neither confirming or denying any realinfo.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Our military actually knows nothing about this" posts


Well isn't that what the military themselves said?

Sure.

You know what's funniest about this episode?

That some people, supposedly experienced, seasoned journalists, have actually forgotten that "We have no knowledge of this incident" is milspeak for "We've been ordered not to release any information about this launch, so we're going to keep repeating our denials until you silly, bothersome Olbermann wannabees finally realize WHY we're saying it, and get out of our faces. No problem, we've got all day to illustrate to everybody just how far your logic and comprehension skills have fallen."

And that a surprising number of blogger and BBS addicts have completely missed the obvious, too.

 

[bbkaren]

...adding that some object might have been launched by a private company...

haha and exactly what sort of "object" would a private company launch...that looks like a missile and goes completely without any sort of airspace notifications etc?

Can private companies just shoot projectiles those sorts of distances without checking with SOMEONE to make sure they're not bonking a plane out of the air?

Sounds like a real stretch to me!

 

[mzkitty]

If Mr. Obama was demonstrating to someone what he, personally, could do at a moment's notice, it would be instructive to know who he was talking to at the time of the launch.

If it was him doing it, he would be talking to ANYBODY in the East who might be thinking bad thoughts about him while he's over there.

 

[mt4design]

+1

A probe to see who scrambles and where. They probe us all the time, why think that we don't return the favor?

I think this would be logical at some other time in our history.

Right now, Obama is pushing a new START treaty. He is also ABROAD.

That is NOT when you want to probe an enemy. It isn't logical to test a missile when the supreme commander of your forces isn't actually residing within your own boarders at the time.

Unless it was a rogue test. Something done without his knowledge.

Or, unless it was a false flag gone wrong. Or, did it do what it was supposed to do? Was the intent to cause confusion, show disarray, shine a light on deficiencies in security?

Mike

 

[SteveReloaded]

pow, ( throws puch at on jaw) how do u like that?

when boxing, doesn't one feint strikes to umm, the opponent? Punching at ones self to see how the opponent reacts? Really?

If it was to test another country's reaction, wouldn't we have maybe been a wee bit closer?

 

[mt4design]

Mystery missile lights up L.A. sky

LInk

The U.S. Navy and the Pentagon are denying they are behind a spectacular missile launch filmed Monday evening by a traffic helicopter hovering over Los Angeles.

Video shot by the KCBS chopper shows what looks like a large projectile, trailing a long plume of smoke, headed out toward the Pacific Ocean. It was reportedly spotted more than 50 kilometres off the California coast.

Local Navy and Air Force officials told KCBS there were no planned launches for Monday evening.

On Tuesday morning, the Pentagon also expressed surprise.

“This is bizarre,” NBC quoted one unnamed U.S. government source as saying.

Thus far, the mystery is being met in the U.S. news media with something approaching amusement.

Among the theories floating around: the missile was launched by accident, it was shot up by a private corporation, or it may have been constructed by racketeering amateurs.

It’s not yet clear if the missile was launched from the mainland or where it was headed.

 

[Double_A]

What this turned into regardless of what it really is/was -- is an experiment to see how everybody would react/jump about news of this nature. It's something else they can tuck in their sheeple-herding file now.

Yea a little experiment to test our reactions & thoughts occurred to me too. It would tell them,

.our state of news watchfullness,
.how jumpy we are,
.how we would react to a circumstance where the military makes statements that would lead a person to believe they are not in control & can be surprised
.how will we are to accept off the wall explanations or call BS
.how widespread this story becomes


At this point I'm open to all thoughts

Just a test of us

 

[mzkitty]

Got this link off someone's tweet. But the Navy already denied, right? So WTF?



Mystery Missile Launch Appears To Be U.S. Navy Test
Doug Mataconis · Tuesday, November 9, 2010 · No Comments

The skies over Southern California were lit up last night by a mysterious missile test: (video above)

A mysterious missile launch off the southern California coast was caught by CBS affiliate KCBS’s cameras Monday night, and officials are staying tight-lipped over the nature of the projectile.

CBS station KFMB put in calls to the Navy and Air Force Monday night about the striking launch off the coast of Los Angeles, which was easily visible from the coast, but the military has said nothing about the launch.

KFMB showed video of the apparent missile to former U.S. Ambassador to NATO Robert Ellsworth, who is also a former Deputy Secretary of Defense, to get his thoughts.

“It’s spectacular… It takes people’s breath away,” said Ellsworth, calling the projectile, “a big missile”.

Magnificent images were captured by the KCBS news helicopter in L.A. around sunset Monday evening. The location of the missile was about 35 miles out to sea, west of L.A. and north of Catalina Island.

A Navy spokesperson told KFMB it wasn’t their missile. He said there was no Navy activity reported in the area Monday evening.

However, Barrett Brown at The League Of Ordinary Gentlemen draws attention to a post at Reddit that passes along an air traffic control warning that was issued yesterday:

NOTAM for LA.

KZLA LOS ANGELES A2832/10 – THE FOLLOWING RESTRICTIONS ARE REQUIRED DUE TO NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER WEAPONS DIVISION ACTIVATION OF W537. IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY, ALL NON-PARTICIPATING PILOTS ARE ADVISED TO AVOID W537. IFR TRAFFIC UNDER ATC JURISDICTION SHOULD ANTICIPATE CLEARANCE AROUND W537 AND CAE 1176. CAE 1155 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. CAE 1316 & CAE 1318 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. CAE 1177 WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. W537 ACTIVE, CAE 1176 CLOSED. SURFACE – FL390, 09 NOV 20:00 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 01:00 2010. CREATED: 08 NOV 20:52 2010

So, pilots were warned to stay away from an area off the California coast around the time that the missile was seen, and the warning refers to the “Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division.”

Logical conclusion? A U.S. military test of some kind, although why they’re being so secret about it is unclear.
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