What is wrong with you? Any dog that attacks a kid is worm-food, ASAP.
VIDEO OMG! Cat saves child from vicious dog attack!
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What is wrong with you? Any dog that attacks a kid is worm-food, ASAP.
ShadowMan
Designated Grumpy Old Fart
AWESOME CAT!!
And.....who in their right mind could risk sacrificing their 4y/o kid to stage something like that??
Actually, not all that unbelievable. All the camera views were common areas that are usually covered by security CCTV's. No big deal to splice the different views into a running sequence. Besides, how could you possibly fake a cat attacking a dog AND THEN chasing after him. What are you going to do...launch the cat with a giant slingshot?
And.....who in their right mind could risk sacrificing their 4y/o kid to stage something like that??
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Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
I hope you meant this sarcastically, but the best I can say of it is that it is in EXTREMELY poor taste.
I am surprised at you, PW; I would not have thought this of you.
Chows are KNOWN for being aggressive around children; most vets and rescue groups I know around here advise against placing a chow in a home with kids.
The only one with the severe "defect" in that video is a dog who attacks for NO reason.
willowlady
Veteran Member
Nowhere did Packyderms-Wife state that she approved of the dog's behavior. It appears to me she was simply offering an explanation of why the dog went for the kid. If you don't think what she stated happens in nature, you live a very, er, sheltered existence. And if you think even humans don't behave this way, think again. A child with autism is very likely to be ostracized -- at the very least -- for being "different." A hundred years ago he would have been institutionalized. Of course, the dog needs to be put down, since we don't allow culling of the herd in our society. A feller named Hitler tried it and it didn't work out too well for him. Thank God.
She certainly minimized it, and so do you. And an utterly gratuitous Hitler reference as a complete non-sequitor, too! You're really hitting on both cylinders.
ETA: they're not supposed to be predators. They're supposed to be domesticated dogs. They're supposed to like playing with kids - not chewing on them.
willowlady
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Talk about firing on two cylinders.... You completely missed my point and PW's. Dogs and cats, pets in general, are animals and can behave according to their instincts as opposed to their training. Even the most generally docile of breeds, cat, dog, whatever, can go bonkers. And when they do, pet owners must respond accordingly. We CAN recognize and act when animals don't behave in a socialized fashion, especially as egregiously as the OP dog did. Not so much with people (homo sapiens sapiens -- animals), and there are a lot of them who behave like undomesticated animals, too. I'm not saying we should, either, so don't go there.
L.A.B.
Goodness before greatness.
ANOTHER CAT WITH A CAPE STORY
My friend the martial artist raised a kitten that had exposure to the gym with people fighting and training. When the cat was about five his chance came to play the role of protector as he took the nose and both eyes of a GSD that was going to munch his tabby friend.
My friend spent mucho time with the black cat and trained him to run the bases at the local base ball field. Trips to the vet, the cat would walk alongside following my friend into the office and sit on the bench next to him, not in a card board cat box carrier.
The cat was a silent sentry when a serial break-in burglar stalker pervert attempted a break in of my heavily armed friend. The cat gave that soft chirping chatter noise they make when they spot a bird from behind the glass window. That move alone alerted my friend who cocked & locked his P-220 then inserted a loaded magazine, and dropped the slide stop as the burglar pressed his face against the open windows screen.
Having a .45 round chamber on your forehead must be quite a rush. As the perp jumped the fence and my friend met him outside naked with his P-220 and chased him down the street running easily beside him saying "I could blow you away right now."
He decided his birthday suit and the Sig might not work as a squad car pulled up so he let the perp go.
A few months later, the serial burglar perp-pervert broke into a Seal Beach Cop's house IIRC.
The off duty cop was dressed 
properly and took down the weirdo.
Years later my friend dumped his heart and about $6,000 into Ninja his black cat the last week of the cats life; he was 10 years old by this time and I believe it was liver function or something? That last day at the vet my friend walked up to the cat in a medical cage with multiple tubes connected to him. He was lethargic for lack of strength as my friend butted his forehead against his cat's forehead. "Buddy it's time I let you go" were his words to Ninja. "But before you go... Ninja! Look who I brought, I brought L.A.B. to see you!"
As I turned the corner Ninja recognized me and stood straight up with the multiple tubes sticking out of him as if to gesture, 'ignore my condition, I'm good to go' like it was any other day in the gym or the park. I like that type of spirit in all my friends with vertebrae.
My friend the martial artist raised a kitten that had exposure to the gym with people fighting and training. When the cat was about five his chance came to play the role of protector as he took the nose and both eyes of a GSD that was going to munch his tabby friend.
My friend spent mucho time with the black cat and trained him to run the bases at the local base ball field. Trips to the vet, the cat would walk alongside following my friend into the office and sit on the bench next to him, not in a card board cat box carrier.
The cat was a silent sentry when a serial break-in burglar stalker pervert attempted a break in of my heavily armed friend. The cat gave that soft chirping chatter noise they make when they spot a bird from behind the glass window. That move alone alerted my friend who cocked & locked his P-220 then inserted a loaded magazine, and dropped the slide stop as the burglar pressed his face against the open windows screen.
Having a .45 round chamber on your forehead must be quite a rush. As the perp jumped the fence and my friend met him outside naked with his P-220 and chased him down the street running easily beside him saying "I could blow you away right now."
He decided his birthday suit and the Sig might not work as a squad car pulled up so he let the perp go.
A few months later, the serial burglar perp-pervert broke into a Seal Beach Cop's house IIRC.
The off duty cop was dressed properly and took down the weirdo.Years later my friend dumped his heart and about $6,000 into Ninja his black cat the last week of the cats life; he was 10 years old by this time and I believe it was liver function or something? That last day at the vet my friend walked up to the cat in a medical cage with multiple tubes connected to him. He was lethargic for lack of strength as my friend butted his forehead against his cat's forehead. "Buddy it's time I let you go" were his words to Ninja. "But before you go... Ninja! Look who I brought, I brought L.A.B. to see you!"
As I turned the corner Ninja recognized me and stood straight up with the multiple tubes sticking out of him as if to gesture, 'ignore my condition, I'm good to go' like it was any other day in the gym or the park. I like that type of spirit in all my friends with vertebrae.
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Melodi
Disaster Cat
My friend the martial artist raised a kitten that had exposure to the gym with people fighting and training. When the cat was about five his chance came to play the role of protector as he took the nose and both eyes of a GSD that was going to munch his tabby friend.
My friend spent mucho time with the black cat and trained him to run the bases at the local base ball field. Trips to the vet, the cat would walk alongside following my friend into the office and sit on the bench next to him, not in a card board cat box carrier.
The cat was a silent sentry when a serial break-in burglar stalker pervert attempted a break in of my heavily armed friend. The cat gave that soft chirping chatter noise they make when they spot a bird from behind the glass window. That move alone alerted my friend who cocked & locked his P-220 then inserted a loaded magazine, and dropped the slide stop as the burglar pressed his face against the open windows screen.
Having a .45 round chamber on your forehead must be quite a rush. As the perp jumped the fence and my friend met him outside naked with his P-220 and chased him down the street running easily beside him saying "I could blow you away right now."
He decided his birthday suit and the Sig might not work as a squad car pulled up so he let the perp go.
A few months later, the serial burglar perp-pervert broke into a Seal Beach Cop's house IIRC.
Years later my friend dumped his heart and about $6,000 into Ninja his black cat the last week of the cats life; he was 10 years old by this time and I believe it was function or something? That last day at the vet my friend walked up to the cat in a medical cage with multiple tubes connected to him. He was lethargic for lack of strength as my friend butted his forehead against his cat's forehead. "Buddy it's time I let you go" were his words to Ninja. "But before you go... Ninja! Look who I brought, I brought L.A.B. to see you!"
As I turned the corner Ninja recognized me and stood straight up with the multiple tubes sticking out of him as if to gesture, 'ignore my condition, I'm good to go' like it was any other day in the gym or the park. I like that type of spirit in all my friends with vertebrae.
Was Ninja a black kitty who perhaps showed "points" in very bright sunlight or had the basic body shape of a Siamese (either old fashioned and large or modern and pencil thin)? I'm asking because the behavior you are describing is much more typical of "Oriental" cats who were used for hundreds, if not thousands of years as temple guardians. Though a fluke of cat genetics, the most common color that comes up when Siamese cross with other cats (as happens in feral colonies and with outdoor cats all the time) is BLACK. Huge numbers of black cats, even in Ireland are part Siamese (or other Oriental cat) and they are much more "trainable," more likely to actually enjoy walking on a lead (as opposed to leading their person around or laying down in a heap), "clever" (figuring out door knobs, copying dance moves, unlatching cages, flushing toilets, learning pet tricks etc). My little Skugal does not have any "Shadow Points" but has the typical Siamese shape and Meow (boy can she meow) and while small is an excellent hunter and very clever. My late barn cat Svarty (means black) had Shadow Points that really showed as a kitten but as adult he looked Coal Black except in the sunlight, he had the huge "Apple Head" of the Old Fashioned Siamese and would take on just about anything that moved, but he also knew when it was time to head for the hills. He also had the classic Siamese meow and probably would have been "trainable" if I had taken any time with him to do so.
Not all black cats are Siamese crosses, but many are and many black (or Calico females) that have a Siamese "look" and are somewhat "dog like" in terms of behavior are in fact "A Siamese in a black (or calico) cat suit".
Lab/chow mix? Labs are normally extremely protective of children. I don't know anything about chows though. Our lab pup just recently decided that squirrels are evil demons from hell and will stand between us and any squirrel she spots. She's never even been bitten by one. The only time she growls is if a squirrel is in the vicinity of our ten year old. It's really weird. And only 8 months old? Labs don't finish being puppies until they are about 2 years old. This is just weird.
The other thing is that the child was on a bike. A lot of dogs will bite at legs when a person is on a bike.
Chows are often reactive to people they do not know well. Cross bred dogs can be more like one breed, and in this case, the combination of immaturity and protectiveness seems to have been confusing to the dog, and in the long run, fatal.
Jacki
Chows are often reactive to people they do not know well. Cross bred dogs can be more like one breed, and in this case, the combination of immaturity and protectiveness seems to have been confusing to the dog, and in the long run, fatal.
Jacki
Yer kidding, right? From my understanding, Labs don't finish being puppies until they're FOUR. And oddly enough, both Hermione (will be 9 in July!) and Odin (will be 8 in June) still act like pups. Drives me crazy at time...
Darth Molly will be one year old on the 21st so at best we are only half way out of puppy-hood LOL So I'm more than willing to admit I could be wrong.
Molly only accidentally bit me once and she was so upset afterwards when I yelled ouch ... not at her but at the the pain of the bite ... that she was off her feed for two days. She got my calf pretty good ... she was going after a butterfly that had landed there ... and if I hadn't had jeans on she would have broken the skin for sure, the bruising was no small event. I can see how puppy teeth could puncture a little boy's bare leg. It still just seems so strange for a lab to act like what happened in the OP. And then to turn around and bite the mother too? Has to be the chow mix part of the equation.
onetimer
Veteran Member
The Chow breed is very aggressive and unpredictable.
It's 2014, your book is outdated.
It's 2014, your book is outdated.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
No it was pissed because the dog attacked its "KITTEN" ....
Not just you. I am now seeing "This video is private".
My BIL trains dogs for police departments and also worked the dogs at Logan Airport (mostly German Shepherds he went to Germany to get). He said at the airport he had to hold the dogs firmly back if they saw a child with Down Syndrome or other mental/emotional problems. It's the dogs natural instinct to attack these children. And my BIL isn't prejudice because he himself has a Down Syndrome child.
However watching this video, it looks like this dog went after the child long before he could tell if the child had an issue (unless he's been stalking him for a while as they lived next door to each other).
However watching this video, it looks like this dog went after the child long before he could tell if the child had an issue (unless he's been stalking him for a while as they lived next door to each other).
Watch the video. The dog saw the child as prey. There was no classic aggression as you would see in a dog protecting territory or feeling threatened. The dog was alert and stalking before the attack. As far as that dog was concerned, the child was no better than a chipmunk. If the child's disability caused the attack it would likely be because the strange behavior of the child signaled a threat. This dog didn't feel threatened. He was out for the kill. Prey drive is 'silent' aggression. Defensive drives will cause the classic aggressive dog display. He had no fear and no respect for the child and there is no doubt in my mind that child would have been dead if the cat hadn't stepped in.
Willow
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-- I'm sorry willowlady
Veteran Member
That dog didn't look the slightest bit confused to me. He saw what he wanted and that was to attack the kid. He very deliberately goes around the back of the parked car and by stealth attacks the child from behind. That's not fear or confusion. That was purpose driven. Good kitty!
Countrymouse
Country exile in the city
EXACTLY.
And the fact that the dog next WENT AFTER THE MOTHER when she went around the car to see if he was still in the vicinity tells me he was being PURPOSELY aggressive against ALL who came into his path that day---for the article doesn't mention at ALL that the MOTHER had "anything wrong" with her...!
As for those who see this kind of behavior as "normal" behavior to "remove from the gene pool" all who are "weak, infirm, aged, and disabled"---I think those who own or work with SERVICE DOGS would take great issue with your viewpoint.
These dogs are used FOR the very PURPOSE of helping those who are "weak, infirm, aged, or disabled" and range from Guide Dogs (which USED to be EXCLUSIVELY German Shepherds until fairly recent times, when the GS's tendency toward hip dysplasia caused the Labrador to be used in their place), to service dogs for those who suffer from paralysis disorders, deafness, seizure disorders, even depression---these dogs give the lie to the idea that a dog's "natural" tendency is to attack any human it perceives as 'less than perfect.'
Seems to me the only ones doing that,, are other humans....
L.A.B.
Goodness before greatness.
Burrito
Veteran Member
RCSARGlancing at your Avatar with it's cabbit ears and reading your post... Too funny!
I had to look up the meaning of "cabbit". Learn something new a few time a year.
