WAR Regional conflict brewing in the Mediterranean

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cowboy

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I am still seeing Libyan Wings lines coming in and Turkish lines departing still.

I am also getting flights from Beirut, Bagdad, and Hurghada Egypt all making jumps to Istanbul also.
 
jward

jward

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Turkey is sending wave after wave of Syrian Jihadists to Libya aboard commercial flights with passengers to act as human shields!
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Mtruth

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I've already seen video of them on the ground in Libya




EndGameWW3

@EndGameWW3
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There has been plenty of flight maps today published showing these flights taking off from Turkey and heading for Tripoli.




JOHNNY DIAMOND QC....Aut inveniam viam aut faciam.

@colking
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this comes under greater good ....shoot them down.










Sinan

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Iran not ?





El Cigarrón

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And that wanted to become part of the European Union




Darby

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No, they aren’t. Libyan airlines aren’t known for their on time performance. Turkey is one of the few countries with flights to Libya. Two Libyan commercial flights (one delayed) took off from Turkey at around the same time. Nothing else established at this point.





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Never fly Turkish Airlines no matter the enticing fares!
 
jward

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EndGameWW3

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Urgent and exclusive, and from our intelligence sources, the arrival of Turkish warships in the ports of Algeria. Military vehicles, weapons, Turkish soldiers and Syrian mercenaries were landed and they were moved to locations towards the Algerian-Libyan borders. 100% confirmed
 
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Plain Jane

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I was wondering when Algeria would get involved. They have been having political unrest as well with an unsettled election, that just got settled in a hurry up. Now it makes sense.
 
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Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane
This appears to be the official explanation for the frigates. Interesting timing for NATO excercises.

ahvalnews.com

Turkish frigates headed for Algeria amid Mediterranean tensions | Ahval

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Turkish frigates headed for Algeria amid Mediterranean tensions

  • Dec 29 2019 10:13 Gmt+3
  • Last Updated On: Dec 29 2019 10:25 Gmt+3
Turkish Naval Forces have dispatched two frigates toward Algeria to attend a commemoration ceremony for an Ottoman governor and hold exercises with the Algerian navy.
The move arrives as Turkey continues to ramp up efforts to strike deals with nations on the Mediterranean.
The Göksü and Gökova frigates have set out for the Port of Algiers for a ceremony commemorating Turkish seaman and governor Oruç Reis and will remain in the waters of the country between January 7-10, Sözcü newspaper reported.

The Turkish fleet will also support NATO’s Operation Sea Guardian in the Mediterranean Sea, it said.


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The Turkish Naval Task Group which consist of our frigates TCG GÖKSU and TCG GÖKOVA, is transiting to the Port of Algiers to provide associated support to NATO's Operation Sea Guardian, after completing the passing exercise with the Italian frigate Zeffiro.
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Tensions are soaring in the Mediterranean over maritime and territorial disputes between Turkey on the one hand and Greece and Cyprus on the other.

Turkey last month signed an accord with Libya’s internationally recognized government seeking to create an exclusive economic zone from Turkey’s southern Mediterranean shore to Libya’s northeast coast. The deal ignores the waters Cyprus and a number of Greek islands, including Crete.

Greece and Cyprus, which are seeking to build a pipeline carrying gas to Europe across those waters, have objected to the agreement.

Turkish President Tayyip Erdoğan this week visited another country bordering the Mediterranean, Tunisia, for talks with Tunisian President Kais Saied on recently signed Turkish-Libyan deals.
 
The Snack Artist

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Let there be war and let's have it be total War! Land and prisoners taken! Maybe Europe could assemble a fighting force consisting of refugees that want to fight for their old countries? Finally a use for the people who eat and wipe their asses with their hands.
 
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Plain Jane

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Lavrov is describing the doctrine "Duty To Protect " advocated by Powers, Clinton, and Obama. Our most high minded sounding doctrines yield the most chaos and bloodshed.
 
Zagdid

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Plain Jane said:
Lavrov is describing the doctrine "Duty To Protect " advocated by Powers, Clinton, and Obama. Our most high minded sounding doctrines yield the most chaos and bloodshed.
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The irony of the Responsibility to Protect is that the actors only understand the part where everything gets blown up and are oblivious to the part that says, 'when you assume the responsibility to blow it up, you also assume the responsibility to rebuild it.'

(3) Elements
The responsibility to protect embraces three specific responsibilities:
A. The responsibility to prevent: to address both the root causes and direct causes of internal conflict and other man-made crises putting populations at risk.

B. The responsibility to react: to respond to situations of compelling human need with appropriate measures, which may include coercive measures like sanctions and international prosecution, and in extreme cases military intervention.

C. The responsibility to rebuild: to provide, particularly after a military intervention, full assistance with recovery, reconstruction and reconciliation, addressing the causes of the harm the intervention was designed to halt or avert.

 
Zagdid

Zagdid

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Arab League opposes 'interference in Libya' after Turkey accords - France 24

Arab League opposes 'interference in Libya' after Turkey accords
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Issued on: 31/12/2019 - 18:12Modified: 31/12/2019 - 18:10 Cairo (AFP)

The Arab League called Tuesday for efforts to "prevent foreign interference" in Libya in the wake of military and maritime agreements signed by Turkey with the UN-recognised government in Tripoli.

Permanent representatives of the pan-Arab organisation, in a meeting at its Cairo headquarters requested by Egypt, passed a resolution "stressing the necessity to prevent interference that could contribute to facilitating the arrival of foreign extremists in Libya".

They also expressed "serious concern over the military escalation further aggravating the situation in Libya and which threatens the security and stability of neighboring countries and the entire region".

On Monday, the UN's Libya envoy, Ghassan Salame, said the deals signed by Turkey and the Tripoli government represented an "escalation" of the conflict wracking the North African country.

Libya has been mired in conflict since a NATO-backed uprising in 2011 toppled and killed dictator Moamer Kadhafi, with rival administrations in the east and the west vying for power.

In November, Ankara signed a security and military cooperation deal and also inked a maritime jurisdiction agreement with the Government of National Accord (GNA) based in the capital.

In addition, Turkey is preparing to hold a vote in parliament on deploying troops in support of the GNA which is battling forces of eastern military strongman Khalifa Haftar, who is backed by Egypt, the United Arab Emirates and Russia.

Egypt, in a letter sent to the United Nations last week, said it considers the Ankara-Tripoli agreements "void and without legal effect", adding that foreign military involvement in Libya amounted to a violation of a UN arms embargo in force since the uprising.
 
mzkitty

mzkitty

I give up.
The whole toilet bowl is gonna explode real soon now. This and the entire middle east.
Because they're all psychotic.

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Housecarl

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Zagdid said:
The irony of the Responsibility to Protect is that the actors only understand the part where everything gets blown up and are oblivious to the part that says, 'when you assume the responsibility to blow it up, you also assume the responsibility to rebuild it.'

(3) Elements
The responsibility to protect embraces three specific responsibilities:
A. The responsibility to prevent: to address both the root causes and direct causes of internal conflict and other man-made crises putting populations at risk.

B. The responsibility to react: to respond to situations of compelling human need with appropriate measures, which may include coercive measures like sanctions and international prosecution, and in extreme cases military intervention.

C. The responsibility to rebuild: to provide, particularly after a military intervention, full assistance with recovery, reconstruction and reconciliation, addressing the causes of the harm the intervention was designed to halt or avert.

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None of which any of them had the stomach to follow through on, though all couldn't wait to meddle and possibly set up circumstances for gain, political or personal.
 
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Housecarl said:
None of which any of them had the stomach to follow through on, though all couldn't wait to meddle and possibly [set up circumstances for gain, political or personal.
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But, isn't that what that whole responsibility is all ABOUT for a 1st World Country??? (And its denizens??)



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Libya is a new regional flashpoint as Erdogan moves in

As if the eight-year-old Libyan crisis is not complicated enough, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan now wants to add fuel to the fire by deploying troops and sending arms to aid the beleaguered Government of National Accord (GNA) in Tripoli. Erdogan has asked his parliament to give approval...
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Libya is a new regional flashpoint as Erdogan moves in
jordantimes.com/opinion/osama-al-sharif/libya-new-regional-flashpoint-erdogan-moves

December 31, 2019
As if the eight-year-old Libyan crisis is not complicated enough, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan now wants to add fuel to the fire by deploying troops and sending arms to aid the beleaguered Government of National Accord (GNA) in Tripoli. Erdogan has asked his parliament to give approval to a Libyan request to provide arms and fighters under a controversial agreement reached by the GNA, headed by Fayez Al Sarraj, and Erdogan last November. The agreement, which was rejected by Greece, Cyprus, Egypt and Israel, includes a maritime treaty that virtually gives unlimited naval access to Ankara in the eastern Mediterranean.

The UN-recognised GNA has been losing territory since Gen. Khalifa Haftar, who heads the so-called National Libyan Army and is backed by parliament and rival government in Tubrok, launched a military campaign in April to capture the capital and unseat Sarraj. Haftar had successfully defeated extremist militias in the east, liberated Benghazi and took control of the oil rich region as well as most of southern Libya.

He and Sarraj had failed to implement a political agreement reached in Skhirat, Morocco, in December of 2015. Haftar accuses the Tripoli government of bowing to the control of militias affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood and is being backed by Qatar and Turkey. On the other hand, Haftar himself is supported by Egypt and the UAE, the latter has allegedly supplied Haftar with modern drones, among other regional powers. The UN has imposed a weapons embargo on Libya, but that did not prevent both sides from receiving military aid from backers.

Turkey’s intervention will almost certainly widen the conflict and bring about a proxy war that would involve other regional powers. Erdogan has claimed that Haftar is using Russian mercenaries while he himself is being accused of recruiting Syrian insurgents to fight in Libya. While Russia has denied sending mercenaries to Libya, recent reports suggested that a Russian military group, associated with President Vladimir Putin, is working with pro-Haftar forces.

On Sunday, the so-called National Syrian Army, comprised of anti-regime militias backed by Ankara, issued a statement announcing the resignation of top military brass in protest of sending what it called fighting groups to Libya without their consent. It is now clear that Erdogan will hesitate to dispatch his own troops to Libya while relying on mercenaries. He is expected to send military advisers, drones as well as air defence and anti-tanks systems to help the besieged GNA.

Haftar’s forces have been making headway as they reached the outskirts of the capital. Turkey’s intervention, especially in delivering weapons to pro-GNA militias in Misrata, is expected to push back these forces and create an impasse. Erdogan hopes to achieve a number of geopolitical goals as he lays claim to large swaths of gas-rich eastern Mediterranean.

But by intervening in Libya he also risks facing domestic dissent as well as regional and international opposition. Already he has been warned by the Italians, the French and the Germans who have various interests in finding a political solution in Libya. But Erdogan is an opportunist. He has seen for himself how the UN has failed to implement the Skhirat agreement while looking the other way as Haftar’s forces took over most of the country. By throwing his hat into the ring he hopes to capitalise on Turkey’s growing influence in a divided and polarised region.

It is ironic that he now finds himself on the opposite side of his ally in Syria; Putin. Russia’s support of Haftar is in line with its backing of Bashar Assad against his foes. Egypt, which has a long border with Libya, sees Haftar as a protector of its western flank against Al Qaeda, Daesh and other extremist groups.

President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi will not be happy to see Turkey establishing a foothold in neighbouring Libya. What Cairo can do to offset this new challenge remains to be seen. Erdogan’s intervention also creates a problem for Washington, which is worried by Russia’s rising influence in a region that has been historically under US sway.

There is no doubt that Turkey’s meddling in Syria’s affairs has compounded that country’s plight. Just as he backed Syrian rebel groups, Erdogan is now seen as abandoning them in Idlib.

Whatever deal he has reached with the Russians over Idlib, it has so far created a new humanitarian catastrophe for hundreds of thousands of Syrians who have been barred from escaping to Turkey. His planned involvement in Libya will bring out similar results. In fact, as we enter 2020 Libya will emerge as a critical regional flashpoint that threatens to unsettle north Africa while polarising the region even further.

Osama Al Sharif is a journalist and political commentator based in Amman
 
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