INTL Harry and Meghan plan to do things their way.
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Only posting a blurb as it's mostly rehash...
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry to lose their HRH titles after new deal thrashed out by Palace
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry will lose their HRH titles after stepping back as senior members of the Royal Family, Buckingham Palace have announced.news.yahoo.com
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"It is not yet clear if they will be able to keep their SussexRoyal online branding or will attend formal family events such as Trooping the Colour."
I really hope they don't get to keep any of their titles. And I hope in the long run they lose the Duke and Duchess nonsense. Neither one of them deserves it. Duke and Duchesses work at their responsibilities which is usually doing something like figuring out how to make money to support all of the people dependent on their estate(s) and business(es). THAT is what being a titled individual means. You are in service to the people of your estate/business … it isn't about being served.
MountainBiker
Veteran Member
Most Dukes and Duchesses have no obligations whatsoever to anybody exccept those they choose to have obligations to. Most have inherited (Dukes) the titles or married (Duchesses) into them. Some inherit a lot of money and/or money-producing estates with the title; and some don't. Those that don't have to figure out how to support themselves same as everyone else. The Queen giving such titles to her sons & their spouses is the exception rather than the rule, though even that is the norm for the royal household.
I'm with Ms Kitty. I don't understand all the hate. While I wish Harry had found someone better suited temperment-wise to fit in with the royal family, he made his choice and I wish them well.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
A very strong-willed "Princess" who married in, didn't usually end up in the Tower of London (that was pretty late) but during the Middle Ages, they might find themselves essential jailed on hubby's estate (away from court) or if they were really ungovernable the Pope would be paid off for an annulment and they could find themselves suddenly a professed abbess of a remote convent.
Of course, this happened to "good" (for the time period) compliant and loving spouses as well, especially if they couldn't produce a male heir (their most important job and not just for the Crown but hubby's estate, etc).
Except in places like Ireland, Scotland or Wales (Celtic Fringe) were up until the 10th century and even longer, hubby just took a second wife (or official concubine) and had the kids legitimized.
Even as late as the 1500s, if Henry Fitzroy, the "bastard" son of Henry the VIIIth had lived it was pretty clear his Dad was preparing to have him legitimized and made heir. English history would be totally different if the young man had lived longer than young adulthood (or even if his marriage had produced a grandson).
Of course, this happened to "good" (for the time period) compliant and loving spouses as well, especially if they couldn't produce a male heir (their most important job and not just for the Crown but hubby's estate, etc).
Except in places like Ireland, Scotland or Wales (Celtic Fringe) were up until the 10th century and even longer, hubby just took a second wife (or official concubine) and had the kids legitimized.
Even as late as the 1500s, if Henry Fitzroy, the "bastard" son of Henry the VIIIth had lived it was pretty clear his Dad was preparing to have him legitimized and made heir. English history would be totally different if the young man had lived longer than young adulthood (or even if his marriage had produced a grandson).
Hate is a waste of time and emotional energy. What I can’t stand is their failure to serve in their capacity and authority regardless of how they got it. People count on them for an income. People looked up to them. Even if the responsibilities were imposed on them they still had an obligation to be the best dang duke and duchess they could be. What they’ve done is mock the very idea of responsibility and honor. If youcan’t or won’t fulfill your position, regardless of what it is, you should lose the title, and lose the perks. HRH, CEO, doctor, esquire, cat herder, it shouldn’t matter.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
I agree they handled this very badly and I suspect the tax mess is going to bite them big time (as will a section of public reaction) but for now, in terms of story writing I get to step back and watch this particular saga of "The Prince who gave up his position for 'love.'"
At least until the next chapter and somehow, I am not certain there will be a happy ending.
At least until the next chapter and somehow, I am not certain there will be a happy ending.
ioujc
MARANTHA!! Even so, come LORD JESUS!!!
I cannot believe that ANYONE, especially those on TB2k would even CARE what these two do or don't do! I have no interest at all in their behavior or anything else they do. Looks like a bunch of folks would like to read and have subscriptions to Enquirer mag...….
Harry is still in the line of succession...not that it means much when he is so far down the list anyway...or even not that it means that much historically. From what I heard this morning on the news, (seems the Palace is still writing the book on this one) Harry can take up his "HRH" again any time he chooses.
A lot of upheavel coming within the next few years when Charles is crowned. He may make some major changes to the system. Not going to get too excited about any of this BS. It's enough fun just watching the show. Send in the clowns and the popcorn.
A lot of upheavel coming within the next few years when Charles is crowned. He may make some major changes to the system. Not going to get too excited about any of this BS. It's enough fun just watching the show. Send in the clowns and the popcorn.
Lest those among us forget, Markle is still a US citizen. What she does - even we would like to ignore that - reflects on us all when it comes to events that have a world stage. There are a lot of people out there going "typical mercenary American" and that sucks.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
I noticed that the real British Websites like the BBC referred to it as "agreeing not to use their titles" although that may refer more to Harry than to Meghan.
I am pretty sure it takes an act of Parliament and/or Harry actually signing something and abdication form (like King Edward did and Princess Margret would have signed if she had married Peter Townsend but backed off) in order to have his BIRTH title actually removed.
I am not certain of this, this is getting to a level beyond which even I pay attention, but it could be critical if say they were ever to divorce or Meghan passed away first and/or some terrible tragic event happened when most of the family were together (think Christmas in Scotland) and Harry was suddenly near the throne again.
Otherwise, this just turns into entertainment for most people, which is to a degree why most modern royal families still exist at least in Europe.
I am pretty sure it takes an act of Parliament and/or Harry actually signing something and abdication form (like King Edward did and Princess Margret would have signed if she had married Peter Townsend but backed off) in order to have his BIRTH title actually removed.
I am not certain of this, this is getting to a level beyond which even I pay attention, but it could be critical if say they were ever to divorce or Meghan passed away first and/or some terrible tragic event happened when most of the family were together (think Christmas in Scotland) and Harry was suddenly near the throne again.
Otherwise, this just turns into entertainment for most people, which is to a degree why most modern royal families still exist at least in Europe.
Britain is our greatest ally in the world. The U.S. is culturally/historically linked and derived from British. Our legal system is historically linked and derived from the British system. Many of us (Americans) are genetically, historically, and culturally linked to Britain. A natural pool of interest.
evenso
Veteran Member
Hey, I've got a solution! They can put their liberal agenda to the test and make the homeless of LA their newest charity. Yeah, that's the ticket!
Actually from my point of view, I don't care what she does, it isn't a reflection on me and I really care even less what other people think. Caring what other people think in today's society is what has blessed/cursed us with modern day SJW's and the like.
mzkitty
I give up.
Her old man just can't keep his yap shut. "Walmart with a crown" WTF is he doing? How much did he get paid? Bitter much?
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January 19, 2020 | 9:58am
Meghan Markle‘s estranged dad has slammed his daughter for “destroying” Britain’s royal family — accusing her of turning the monarchy “into a Walmart with a crown on.”
Thomas Markle, 75, called his daughter and her husband, Prince Harry, “lost souls” in an upcoming UK documentary — saying he found it “embarrassing” the way they were ditching the royals, seemingly for a payday.
“This is like one of the greatest long-living institutions ever,” Markle told Channel 5 documentary, “Thomas Markle: My Story,” in a clip released Sunday.
“They are destroying it, they are cheapening it, they’re making it shabby,” he said.
“They are turning it into a Walmart with a crown on it now. It is something that is ridiculous, they shouldn’t be doing this.”
Markle — who plans to be a key witness against his daughter in an upcoming UK court battle — said he was shocked because his daughter appeared to have “every girl’s dream” after marrying a prince.
“Every young girl wants to become a princess and she got that and now she’s tossing that away,” he told the 90-minute doc, which Channel 5 said will air “in the coming weeks”.
“It looks like she’s tossing that away for money,” he said.
“Apparently, $3 million on a 26-bedroom home isn’t enough for them. It’s kind of embarrassing to me,” he said.
He was referring to the couple’s UK residence, Frogmore Cottage — which actually has 10-bedrooms — which the couple is being forced to pay back the price of costly renovations as part of the Queen’s Megxit deal.
Markle described the royal family as “one of the greatest long-living institutions ever,” saying that when Meghan married Harry in May 2018 they took an obligation “to be part of the royals and to represent the royals.”
“I think both of them are turning into lost souls at this point,” he said. “I don’t think they know what they are looking for.”
Markle was already estranged from his daughter after being a no-show at her glitzy May 2018 royal wedding, blaming major heart problems for stopping him from traveling. He was also humiliated when exposed for staging photos in a deal with paparazzi.
“I can’t see her reaching out to me — especially now,” he conceded to the Channel 5 team. “Or Harry for that matter.”
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January 19, 2020 | 9:58am
Meghan Markle‘s estranged dad has slammed his daughter for “destroying” Britain’s royal family — accusing her of turning the monarchy “into a Walmart with a crown on.”
Thomas Markle, 75, called his daughter and her husband, Prince Harry, “lost souls” in an upcoming UK documentary — saying he found it “embarrassing” the way they were ditching the royals, seemingly for a payday.
“This is like one of the greatest long-living institutions ever,” Markle told Channel 5 documentary, “Thomas Markle: My Story,” in a clip released Sunday.
“They are destroying it, they are cheapening it, they’re making it shabby,” he said.
“They are turning it into a Walmart with a crown on it now. It is something that is ridiculous, they shouldn’t be doing this.”
Markle — who plans to be a key witness against his daughter in an upcoming UK court battle — said he was shocked because his daughter appeared to have “every girl’s dream” after marrying a prince.
“Every young girl wants to become a princess and she got that and now she’s tossing that away,” he told the 90-minute doc, which Channel 5 said will air “in the coming weeks”.
“It looks like she’s tossing that away for money,” he said.
“Apparently, $3 million on a 26-bedroom home isn’t enough for them. It’s kind of embarrassing to me,” he said.
He was referring to the couple’s UK residence, Frogmore Cottage — which actually has 10-bedrooms — which the couple is being forced to pay back the price of costly renovations as part of the Queen’s Megxit deal.
Markle described the royal family as “one of the greatest long-living institutions ever,” saying that when Meghan married Harry in May 2018 they took an obligation “to be part of the royals and to represent the royals.”
“I think both of them are turning into lost souls at this point,” he said. “I don’t think they know what they are looking for.”
Markle was already estranged from his daughter after being a no-show at her glitzy May 2018 royal wedding, blaming major heart problems for stopping him from traveling. He was also humiliated when exposed for staging photos in a deal with paparazzi.
“I can’t see her reaching out to me — especially now,” he conceded to the Channel 5 team. “Or Harry for that matter.”
Meghan Markle’s dad accuses daughter of ‘destroying’ the royal family
Thomas Markle called his estranged daughter and her husband, Prince Harry, “lost souls” in an upcoming UK documentary.
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Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
I only care because I respect the Queen and Prince Philip ( who, these two snowflakes are not even considering ). Once they are gone, it will be a different story
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
www.breitbart.com /europe/2020/01/19/delingpole-megxit-ex-prince-harry-got-woke-now-hes-broke/
Delingpole: #Megxit! Ex-Prince Harry Got Woke, Now He's Broke...
James Delingpole
5-7 minutes
How are the mighty fallen!
This time a year ago, Prince Harry had the world at his feet. He was a handsome prince with a beautiful wife and a healthy male heir on the way, plenty of money, a free, five-bedroomed ‘cottage’ in a piece of England’s finest real estate, a dashing war record from two tours in Afghanistan, bags of honorary titles — including Captain General of the Royal Marines — all the cachet of being a senior player in the world’s grandest Royal Family but little of the responsibility (his big brother William is heir to the throne, so the pressure is off there), with plenty of spare time for frequent private jet jaunts round the world to hang out with celebrity chums like Sir Elton John.
Now, he’s a nobody. Or at best, an ex-Someone. Sure he gets to keep his aristocratic courtesy-title the Duke of Sussex, but he no longer retains the rank of royal prince or the honorific ‘His Royal Highness’; he has to pay back the £2.4 million that the UK taxpayer spent doing up his ‘cottage’; he has lost the role of Captain General — and all his other honorary military titles; he’ll no longer be paid to represent the Royal Family at official events; he’s now possibly even less famous than his wife, who wasn’t exactly A-list to begin with being only the ex-supporting-star from a fading TV show in its seventh series…
Where did it all go so wrong for the poor lad?
Simple. Ex-Prince Harry is perhaps the most tragic living example of Get Woke, Go Broke.
Before he met Meghan Markle, he was one of the lads; a polo-playing, cigarette-smoking, hard-drinking action man with a string of hot girlfriends, a twinkle in his eye that made him probably the Queen’s favourite grandchild, and a common touch which made him the people’s favourite young royal.
But no sooner had he fallen under Meghan’s spell, he became a husk of his former self — riddled with anxiety about everything from the state of the planet to his own mental health, excruciatingly politically correct, replacing polo and shooting and fox hunting with wife-endorsed yoga sessions, reduced to prostituting his royal status — and being caught on camera — begging the CEO of Disney to give his wife some voiceover work.
Under the malign influence of Hollywood princess Meghan, Harry got woke and now he’s broke. Why did he not see all this coming?
The answer is, of course, that when a man is under the glamour of a Circe-like enchantress he becomes immune to reason.
His big brother William, with whom he had the closest of relationships, did try to explain — urging him to live with Meghan for a few months before committing to matrimony — but his warnings fell on deaf ears.
What Harry should have realised is that the Royal Family is, perhaps above all else, ruthlessly geared towards its own survival.
There have been Kings and Queens of England dating back at least to King Egbert 1,200 years ago. A royal line does not last that long without a certain degree of brutal expediency.
We saw this in 1936 with the enforced abdication of Edward VIII — another royal who imagined he could mix business with pleasure only to be cast into outer darkness when he refused to ditch his unsuitable partner, another blowsy American, Wallis Simpson.
We saw it again only a few weeks ago when the Queen booted her favourite child, Prince Andrew, out of the Royal firm because of his involvement in the Epstein scandal.
Now we’ve seen it again with the Queen’s totally uncompromising treatment of Prince Harry. Being favourite grandchild clearly doesn’t get you any special favours where this implacable monarch is concerned. The severance package she has imposed on Harry and Meghan is the hardest of hard Megxits. As ever, the Queen has put her sense of duty to the nation above all — no matter how much personal hurt it may have caused her to impose such Carthaginian terms on her beloved Harry (and her rather less beloved granddaughter-in-law Meghan).
But the Queen was, of course, absolutely right to do what she has done.
Harry and Meghan were fast becoming an embarrassing liability. Meghan, especially, was trying to pull the Royal brand in a direction that it could never have possibly survived. There was even talk, at one point, of Royal-branded ‘wellness clinics.’
Often you hear it said that the Royal Family needs to move with the times in order to make itself more relevant to the modern world. But a) the people saying this are almost always the kind of people who don’t believe in the Royal Family and would much rather it collapsed and b) sorry, but what the Royal Family didn’t need in 2020 — and won’t even need in 2120 either — are the kind of progressive influencers who, given half the chance, would probably have ended up trying to flog candles with the Royal crest called This Is What My Princess Vagina Smells Like.
It’s all terribly bad luck on Harry who, sooner or later, will probably end up coming back to Britain, lost and rudderless, with his tail between his legs and the most expensive divorce bill money can buy.
But Britain and the Royal Family are well rid of Princess Yoko, that’s for sure. Canada is welcome to her. Hollywood is welcome to her.
And the Royal Family lives to fight another day.
James Delingpole is the host of the Delingpod podcast
Delingpole: #Megxit! Ex-Prince Harry Got Woke, Now He's Broke...
James Delingpole
5-7 minutes
How are the mighty fallen!
This time a year ago, Prince Harry had the world at his feet. He was a handsome prince with a beautiful wife and a healthy male heir on the way, plenty of money, a free, five-bedroomed ‘cottage’ in a piece of England’s finest real estate, a dashing war record from two tours in Afghanistan, bags of honorary titles — including Captain General of the Royal Marines — all the cachet of being a senior player in the world’s grandest Royal Family but little of the responsibility (his big brother William is heir to the throne, so the pressure is off there), with plenty of spare time for frequent private jet jaunts round the world to hang out with celebrity chums like Sir Elton John.
Now, he’s a nobody. Or at best, an ex-Someone. Sure he gets to keep his aristocratic courtesy-title the Duke of Sussex, but he no longer retains the rank of royal prince or the honorific ‘His Royal Highness’; he has to pay back the £2.4 million that the UK taxpayer spent doing up his ‘cottage’; he has lost the role of Captain General — and all his other honorary military titles; he’ll no longer be paid to represent the Royal Family at official events; he’s now possibly even less famous than his wife, who wasn’t exactly A-list to begin with being only the ex-supporting-star from a fading TV show in its seventh series…
Where did it all go so wrong for the poor lad?
Simple. Ex-Prince Harry is perhaps the most tragic living example of Get Woke, Go Broke.
Before he met Meghan Markle, he was one of the lads; a polo-playing, cigarette-smoking, hard-drinking action man with a string of hot girlfriends, a twinkle in his eye that made him probably the Queen’s favourite grandchild, and a common touch which made him the people’s favourite young royal.
But no sooner had he fallen under Meghan’s spell, he became a husk of his former self — riddled with anxiety about everything from the state of the planet to his own mental health, excruciatingly politically correct, replacing polo and shooting and fox hunting with wife-endorsed yoga sessions, reduced to prostituting his royal status — and being caught on camera — begging the CEO of Disney to give his wife some voiceover work.
Under the malign influence of Hollywood princess Meghan, Harry got woke and now he’s broke. Why did he not see all this coming?
The answer is, of course, that when a man is under the glamour of a Circe-like enchantress he becomes immune to reason.
His big brother William, with whom he had the closest of relationships, did try to explain — urging him to live with Meghan for a few months before committing to matrimony — but his warnings fell on deaf ears.
What Harry should have realised is that the Royal Family is, perhaps above all else, ruthlessly geared towards its own survival.
There have been Kings and Queens of England dating back at least to King Egbert 1,200 years ago. A royal line does not last that long without a certain degree of brutal expediency.
We saw this in 1936 with the enforced abdication of Edward VIII — another royal who imagined he could mix business with pleasure only to be cast into outer darkness when he refused to ditch his unsuitable partner, another blowsy American, Wallis Simpson.
We saw it again only a few weeks ago when the Queen booted her favourite child, Prince Andrew, out of the Royal firm because of his involvement in the Epstein scandal.
Now we’ve seen it again with the Queen’s totally uncompromising treatment of Prince Harry. Being favourite grandchild clearly doesn’t get you any special favours where this implacable monarch is concerned. The severance package she has imposed on Harry and Meghan is the hardest of hard Megxits. As ever, the Queen has put her sense of duty to the nation above all — no matter how much personal hurt it may have caused her to impose such Carthaginian terms on her beloved Harry (and her rather less beloved granddaughter-in-law Meghan).
But the Queen was, of course, absolutely right to do what she has done.
Harry and Meghan were fast becoming an embarrassing liability. Meghan, especially, was trying to pull the Royal brand in a direction that it could never have possibly survived. There was even talk, at one point, of Royal-branded ‘wellness clinics.’
Often you hear it said that the Royal Family needs to move with the times in order to make itself more relevant to the modern world. But a) the people saying this are almost always the kind of people who don’t believe in the Royal Family and would much rather it collapsed and b) sorry, but what the Royal Family didn’t need in 2020 — and won’t even need in 2120 either — are the kind of progressive influencers who, given half the chance, would probably have ended up trying to flog candles with the Royal crest called This Is What My Princess Vagina Smells Like.
It’s all terribly bad luck on Harry who, sooner or later, will probably end up coming back to Britain, lost and rudderless, with his tail between his legs and the most expensive divorce bill money can buy.
But Britain and the Royal Family are well rid of Princess Yoko, that’s for sure. Canada is welcome to her. Hollywood is welcome to her.
And the Royal Family lives to fight another day.
James Delingpole is the host of the Delingpod podcast
www.foxnews.com /entertainment/meghan-markles-father-walmart-with-crown
Meghan Markle's estranged father says she and Harry are turning monarchy 'into a Walmart with a crown on'
Nate Day
3-3 minutes
Meghan Markle's father is not holding back.
In a new television documentary, Thomas Markle, 75, accused his daughter of "cheapening" the royal family.
"They are turning [the royal family] into a Walmart with a crown on," he said. "This is not the girl I raised."
PRINCE HARRY, MEGHAN MARKLE WILL NO LONGER USE ROYAL TITLES, QUEEN AND BUCKINGHAM PALACE ANNOUNCE
In the doc, titled "Thomas Markle: My Story," Thomas expresses disappointment in his daughter for not fulfilling what he sees as an obligation.
"When they got married, they took on an obligation, and the obligation is to be part of the royals and to represent the royals. And it would be foolish for them not to," said Thomas. "This is one of the greatest long-living institutions ever. They are destroying it, they are cheapening it, making it shabby… they shouldn't be doing this."
Thomas Markle previously slammed Meghan for ignoring him. (The Mega Agency)
Thomas Markle believes that his daughter's and Prince Harry's decision to "step back" from their royal duties is a poor one "because she actually got every girl's dream."
"Every young girl wants to become a princess and she got that and now she's tossing that away," he said. "It looks like she's tossing that away for money."
The Markle patriarch also expressed disdain for his daughter living in Canada rather than out of Frogmore Cottage on a part-time basis.
MEGHAN MARKLE, PRINCE HARRY'S FROGMORE COTTAGE STAFF DOWNSIZED: REPORT
"Apparently $3 million and a 26-room home isn't enough for them," he said, noting that he feels "embarrassed" over the ordeal.
Thomas also said that he doesn't expect to hear from his daughter or son-in-law, stating that they "are turning into lost souls at this point."
"I don't know what they're looking for," said Thomas. "I don't think they know what they are looking for."
On Saturday, it was announced that Markle and Harry would renounce their "royal highness" titles and pay back the taxpayers for the $3.1 million renovation of their home, Frogmore Cottage."
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"The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have shared their wish to repay Sovereign Grant expenditure for the refurbishment of Frogmore Cottage, which will remain their UK family home," said a statement from Buckingham Palace, which also noted that the duo "are no longer working members of the royal family."
Meghan Markle's estranged father says she and Harry are turning monarchy 'into a Walmart with a crown on'
Nate Day
3-3 minutes
Meghan Markle's father is not holding back.
In a new television documentary, Thomas Markle, 75, accused his daughter of "cheapening" the royal family.
"They are turning [the royal family] into a Walmart with a crown on," he said. "This is not the girl I raised."
PRINCE HARRY, MEGHAN MARKLE WILL NO LONGER USE ROYAL TITLES, QUEEN AND BUCKINGHAM PALACE ANNOUNCE
In the doc, titled "Thomas Markle: My Story," Thomas expresses disappointment in his daughter for not fulfilling what he sees as an obligation.
"When they got married, they took on an obligation, and the obligation is to be part of the royals and to represent the royals. And it would be foolish for them not to," said Thomas. "This is one of the greatest long-living institutions ever. They are destroying it, they are cheapening it, making it shabby… they shouldn't be doing this."
Thomas Markle previously slammed Meghan for ignoring him. (The Mega Agency)
Thomas Markle believes that his daughter's and Prince Harry's decision to "step back" from their royal duties is a poor one "because she actually got every girl's dream."
"Every young girl wants to become a princess and she got that and now she's tossing that away," he said. "It looks like she's tossing that away for money."
The Markle patriarch also expressed disdain for his daughter living in Canada rather than out of Frogmore Cottage on a part-time basis.
MEGHAN MARKLE, PRINCE HARRY'S FROGMORE COTTAGE STAFF DOWNSIZED: REPORT
"Apparently $3 million and a 26-room home isn't enough for them," he said, noting that he feels "embarrassed" over the ordeal.
Thomas also said that he doesn't expect to hear from his daughter or son-in-law, stating that they "are turning into lost souls at this point."
"I don't know what they're looking for," said Thomas. "I don't think they know what they are looking for."
On Saturday, it was announced that Markle and Harry would renounce their "royal highness" titles and pay back the taxpayers for the $3.1 million renovation of their home, Frogmore Cottage."
CLICK HERE TO GET THE FOX NEWS APP
"The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have shared their wish to repay Sovereign Grant expenditure for the refurbishment of Frogmore Cottage, which will remain their UK family home," said a statement from Buckingham Palace, which also noted that the duo "are no longer working members of the royal family."
mzkitty
I give up.
Meow, meow meow meow ............
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Megxit: Prince Harry speaks for first time after reaching deal to step down as a ‘senior’ royal
Prince Harry has broken his silence on Megxit, telling a crowd of guests at a charity fundraiser that he wanted to give them “the truth from me”. Speaking at a dinner for his Sentebale charity at The...
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Except during his little speech he said:
The problem is that he has NOT been honoring his military commitments for some time. He was also stripped of the titles and the honorary titles and duties associated with the UK military.
He didn't give the Queen a second thought before he and Markle published their little fantasy on social media.
And the only way he is serving the commonwealth is by being forced to repay the nearly 3 million pounds for the renovation of Frogmore and it looks like that is being stripped from them as well.
A good face is being put on it but it all is a show. The pups got their nose smacked with a rolled up paper. And their behavior will be even more scrutinized from hear on out. In a year how long of a leash they've been given will be re-examined. If they try and trade on their "royal status" I imagine it will be something more painful than a rolled up newspaper they get smacked with. Markle better make like a baby making machine and quick, she's aging out of that particular activity.
The problem is that he has NOT been honoring his military commitments for some time. He was also stripped of the titles and the honorary titles and duties associated with the UK military.
He didn't give the Queen a second thought before he and Markle published their little fantasy on social media.
And the only way he is serving the commonwealth is by being forced to repay the nearly 3 million pounds for the renovation of Frogmore and it looks like that is being stripped from them as well.
A good face is being put on it but it all is a show. The pups got their nose smacked with a rolled up paper. And their behavior will be even more scrutinized from hear on out. In a year how long of a leash they've been given will be re-examined. If they try and trade on their "royal status" I imagine it will be something more painful than a rolled up newspaper they get smacked with. Markle better make like a baby making machine and quick, she's aging out of that particular activity.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
He was diagnosed with bipolar depression, IIRC if you have that diagnosis you cannot serve in the military unless the rules have changed.
thompson
Certa Bonum Certamen
Do you have a link for that dx?
I've heard it postulated he suffers from depression but not bipolar.
Interesting ...
I can't get it to let me copy and paste more than the first section but it is an interesting read.
Changes to Harry and Markles Website Suggest Ongoing Negotiations
When Prince Harry and Meghan Markle first announced their intention to step back from their roles as senior royals, they published a website outlining some of the details.
Sussexroyal.com—a well-produced site designed by the same Toronto-based firm who worked on Meghan's now-defunct blog, The Tig—featured copious text explaining how the Duke and Duchess hoped to change their relationship with the media, how they would pursue "financial independence," and how they hoped to continue supporting their patronages and Queen Elizabeth.
All of this was published, however, without the approval of their fellow royals—and recent revisions suggest that the plans Harry and Meghan laid out on their site may be up for debate.
On Monday, the Queen met with Charles, William, and Harry for a "summit" to "talk things through," a source told Town & Country, adding, "Following a series of meetings and consultations across the last few days, there are a range of possibilities for the family to review which take into account the thinking the Sussexes outlined earlier in the week."
Shortly after the meeting, the Queen issued a personal statement. "Harry and Meghan have made clear that they do not want to be reliant on public funds in their new lives," it read. "It has therefore been agreed that there will be a period of transition in which the Sussexes will spend time in Canada and the UK."
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I can't get it to let me copy and paste more than the first section but it is an interesting read.
Changes to Harry and Markles Website Suggest Ongoing Negotiations
When Prince Harry and Meghan Markle first announced their intention to step back from their roles as senior royals, they published a website outlining some of the details.
Sussexroyal.com—a well-produced site designed by the same Toronto-based firm who worked on Meghan's now-defunct blog, The Tig—featured copious text explaining how the Duke and Duchess hoped to change their relationship with the media, how they would pursue "financial independence," and how they hoped to continue supporting their patronages and Queen Elizabeth.
All of this was published, however, without the approval of their fellow royals—and recent revisions suggest that the plans Harry and Meghan laid out on their site may be up for debate.
On Monday, the Queen met with Charles, William, and Harry for a "summit" to "talk things through," a source told Town & Country, adding, "Following a series of meetings and consultations across the last few days, there are a range of possibilities for the family to review which take into account the thinking the Sussexes outlined earlier in the week."
Shortly after the meeting, the Queen issued a personal statement. "Harry and Meghan have made clear that they do not want to be reliant on public funds in their new lives," it read. "It has therefore been agreed that there will be a period of transition in which the Sussexes will spend time in Canada and the UK."
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Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Rules are for commoners...
Harry is the head of the Royal Marines...
Or, I should say he WAS the head of the Royal Marines until he screwed up...
Prince Harry prevented from wearing military uniform after losing Armed Forces honours
'UNBECOMING' Military ‘disgusted’ by Prince Harry and Meghan’s plans to quit royal life, slams ex-Special Forces war hero
Military 'disgusted' by Prince Harry and Meghan's plans to quit royal life, slams ex-Special Forces war hero
A DECORATED Special Boat Service war hero who served in Afghanistan with Prince Harry slammed his “disgusting” lack of respect for the Queen. James Glancy — an ex-captain in the Royal Marines — sai…
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Prince Harry’s Royal Marines role could be in danger after not being seen ‘for months'
Prince Harry’s Royal Marines role could be in danger - sources
PRINCE HARRY’s role as head of the Royal Marines could be in jeopardy after a military source claimed that the Duke has not been seen for “some months”.
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Prince Harry's role as head of Royal Marines 'now in doubt' after quit announcement
Prince Harry 'could be stripped of military job' after royal quit announcement
EXCLUSIVE: The Duke, who served in Afghanistan, was made Captain General opf the elite corps last year, replacing Prince Philip but sources say that is now "in doubt"
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Krayola
Veteran Member
Does this mean that Harry will be known as the "man formerly known as Prince?"
MountainBiker
Veteran Member
Rather than be HRH Prince Harry, he is simply Prince Harry. His being a Prince is a birthright. They cannot take that away from him.Does this mean that Harry will be known as the "man formerly known as Prince?"
TBonz
Veteran Member
This is what happens when someone dim marries a classic narcissist.
Within a few years, since she couldn't remake the royals into her devoted servants, she'll dump Ginger for someone with even more money. Harry will come home with his tail between his legs. That's why his HRH is not being used instead of being stripped. They see the end of the marriage coming.
Within a few years, since she couldn't remake the royals into her devoted servants, she'll dump Ginger for someone with even more money. Harry will come home with his tail between his legs. That's why his HRH is not being used instead of being stripped. They see the end of the marriage coming.
Marthanoir
TB Fanatic
I'm at work ssssshhh.. 
Duke and Duchess of Netflix? After the Queen's 'hard Megxit' deal, Harry and Meghan plan to set up a production company... and streaming giant already wants to work with them
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Duke and Duchess of Netflix? After the Queen's 'hard Megxit' deal, Harry and Meghan plan to set up a production company... and streaming giant already wants to work with them
- The couple 'plan to make a living doing voiceovers and making documentaries'
- Documentaries to be about 'worthy' issues such as mental health and climate
- Senior Netflix executive said they would like to work with the couple
- Chief content officer Ted Sarandos said ‘Who wouldn’t be interested? Yes, sure'
Prince Harry and Meghan are to set up a production company
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex plan to make a living by providing voiceovers and producing documentaries on 'worthy' issues such as mental health and climate change - with Netflix now keen.
mzkitty
I give up.
I don't know. Who's higher on the food chain than Harry? It's not just money, it's all that goes with it.
Melodi
Disaster Cat
There were bits and pieces this morning suggesting that as I thought would happen, the FIRM/UK Government is having to backtrack someone on not paying anything for their security.
Things like his time in Afganistan and national security were brought up, again just bits and pieces as one-liners in other articles but my guess is that the end result will be a combination of payers, including the UK (again they don't want a repeat of Diana and the car crash, at least not right now).
Things like his time in Afganistan and national security were brought up, again just bits and pieces as one-liners in other articles but my guess is that the end result will be a combination of payers, including the UK (again they don't want a repeat of Diana and the car crash, at least not right now).
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
There's a live interview of him and William discussing this issue, no link at the moment.
mmigration lawyer Philip Trott told The Times of London, “There is no harm in being out, as long as you spend most of your time here...The advice we normally give to clients is that most of your time means six months and one day every year."
If Prince Harry managed to obtain an official role while in Canada, their time in the country might qualify for the Crown servant exception to residency, which would still count legally as living in the U.K., according to Free Movement.
In the unlikely event she couldn't obtain citizenship, she might still be allowed to remain in the U.K. indefinitely "at the discretion of the Home Secretary,” Free Movement reported. “There are ultimately no legal constraints on granting any form of immigration status.”
Looks like they're going to have their cake and eat it.............
If Prince Harry managed to obtain an official role while in Canada, their time in the country might qualify for the Crown servant exception to residency, which would still count legally as living in the U.K., according to Free Movement.
In the unlikely event she couldn't obtain citizenship, she might still be allowed to remain in the U.K. indefinitely "at the discretion of the Home Secretary,” Free Movement reported. “There are ultimately no legal constraints on granting any form of immigration status.”
Looks like they're going to have their cake and eat it.............
Doubtful. Just because the fan base speaks doesn't make what they are saying accurate. Opinions both pro and against will have to deal with facts over time. Just because someone doesn't agree with your opinion does not automatically label all other opinions as vilification. Markle and Harry screwed up six ways from Sunday. They've hurt their own family. They've failed to honor their positions by performing their responsibilities.And they aren't going to have it all their own way as even their own website has had to be changed to address some of what they've gotten wrong.
Such is life. Daddy Charles said he is picking up some of the bills for the first year and then there will be a re-examination of what their "out" and financial independence means. If they try to drag the monarchy into some commercialized flotsam they'll be spanked. I also suspect they have enough real grownups out in the real world willing to remind them just how low they chose to sink that their "brand" will not be quite the money-maker expected. I wonder how many times they'll go to Charles with their hand out and say "may I have a little more please."
mzkitty
I give up.
thompson
Certa Bonum Certamen
Meghan Markle Takes Legal Action Over Pics of Her and Archie in Canada
Meghan Markle's already fuming mad over one aspect of her new life in Canada -- she's ready to sue over paparazzi shots of her and Archie hiking.
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Meghan Markle Threatens Lawsuit Over Pics in Canada ... Testing New Legal Waters
Meghan Markle's already fuming mad over one aspect of her new life in Canada -- she's ready to sue over paparazzi shots of her and Archie hiking.
Lawyers for Prince Harry and Meghan fired off a cease and desist letter Tuesday to British media outlets saying legal action will be taken if they publish or purchase the pics of Meghan, Archie and 2 pups out for a walk on Vancouver Island.
The letter implies there's definitely going to be a lawsuit coming because the photos are already out there. Multiple outlets posted the pics in question on Monday ... and they're still up today.
The cease and desist letter says, "There are serious safety concerns about how the paparazzi are driving and the risk to life they pose" -- a clear reference to Princess Diana's tragic death in Paris.
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex say the photog who got the shots was hiding in bushes and spying on Meghan. They also say photographers have set up camp, armed with telephoto lenses, outside their home on Vancouver Island.
Harry and Meghan have taken their privacy very seriously from the start of their relationshp, and even sued a UK tabloid last year for alleged misuse of private information. In England, strict privacy laws protect even the Royals from being photographed in public when they're not making official appearances.
However, they're in Canada now, so there are new rules.
We did some digging, and even under Canadian law -- which is not nearly as strict as the U.K. -- snapping pics with a telephoto lens where Meghan could have an expectation of privacy could be a basis for suing.
Meghan and Archie were in a public park at the time, but that doesn't necessarily mean all photos of her are fair game. Meghan and Archie were in a public park at the time, but that doesn't necessarily mean all photos of her are fair game. It would be an interesting test case ... especially considering the Sussexes will be spending much more time in Canada after quitting their Senior Royal duties. It would be an interesting test case ... especially considering the Sussexes will be spending much more time in Canada after quitting their Senior Royal duties.