CORONA Main Coronavirus thread

Lee2

Lee2

Senior Member
Strictly opinion - I believe, from all I've read on here, that China did this deliberately. Why? Because they (the CCP) were losing. Hong Kong was in open revolt and even Wuhan had its dissidents and problems. America was shutting the door on trade and economic prosperity for China and they knew that would cause even more unrest and rebellion.

So what do you do when you know your days are numbered? You make sure your enemies are knocked down too. They have in the past simply done a "cultural revolution" where they just killed all dissidents or sent them to death camps. Can't be so open now. We have a global economy and the world is watching and judging. Chinese citizens feel empowered. So... a plague is the perfect solution. Scoop up problems and burn 'em. And don't forget to share with all your "friends".

Then it got out of hand. They really couldn't control it, lies wouldn't cover it up, and they have made their own Titanic. The rest of us are along for the ride. I don't know who will survive this - I know there will be survivors. The world will be very different in another year. I hope and pray the wool gets removed from our people's eyes about Socialism and Marxism. Can't be sure, though.

Fact - I am praying for all on this board and my own family, of course. Prep as best you can. This will be long I'm afraid. Don't obsess about those masks - get food! And isolate as much as is practical. I'm due to go back to work in a week. Not sure I want to but kind of have to. It's a retail environment. Great!

Dennis, I am grateful for this board and all who post here. Would be in the dark otherwise. I have learned so much here. Hope and pray the "lights" stay on and we can all keep up with what's truly going on.
 
rolenrock

rolenrock

Senior Member
I don't really know how to post this so I am just copying and pasting, sorry if I do it wrong but it looks to be very important, maybe. If this is true then we are in for an ELE for sure. Please, somebody, refute this:

Is This Where We Are Heading? Is This An ELE?
The Reality Is Beyond That Of A Hollywood Horror Film​
By Todd
Exclusive to Rense
2-18-20​
'The Wave' is my terminology for it. I call it that because there is no conferred immunity to corona virus which means that you can be re-infected at any time. Ordinarily, this is not a problem since we have had probably a couple million years to adapt our DNA to survival of the common cold but due to its synthetic nature this particular corona virus is moving too fast for us to ever construct a genetic resistance to it.
Also, we have exterior hostile and deadly forces that will be working against humanity's survival called ‘governments'. Most animals in the wild are not going to be murdered by their kin for ‘power’, so the ones who would have a chance or could be immune would actually survive.
Also, the handful of survivors (due to a mutation of one sort or another; unknown) will most likely not be geographically close enough to have contact. Even if they did manage to find one another this would also be a 'game of survival' as most of the deadly human obstacles will not be resolved either. These include Nuclear Power Plants (NPPs) that are not shut down, there will be a lack of medical care as well, no ability to survive in a non-domestic situation since most of humanity has no experience with something as simple as starting a fire without a zippo lighter or aim and flame, or the pragmatic experience of growing food, herbal remedies etc).
But reinfection alone is not the whole issue. The issue is that once you get the virus the first time you become what I call a 'shedder'...you need to break down the virus into its component parts and then look at them functioning together to understand the whole of it.
The first component part is the virus' packaging.
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The SARS virus.
As a corona virus, it is highly mutagenic which is why there is no 'vaccine' nor any hope of developing one. Those protein keys that sit on the outside are in an evolutionary dance with the body for the 'key' shape that is correct. One of the most telling things they said early on - and the reason why we know that this is a bioweapon - is because of a slip-up one of the researchers said while examining it.
He said, "It is a bioweapon because there is no change in the outer shell of the virus (SARS), while there is splicing happening on he interior---the HIV (retrovirus)/TB (fungal) additions)."
So, it's totally impossible. Any naturally occurring alteration would have altered the SARS glycoprotein exterior as well. It is a bioweapon. Now, the keys (glycoproteins) that are part of the outer shell are actually bacteriophages which is why their is nothing that we can do to stop it. So, basically all of the bacteriophage diseases (coronavirus) are like a colony of bacteriohages that are a super-organism.
Bacteriophages were never meant to be wielded against a higher life form because we have no real defense against them reproductively. A bacteria, which may have 100+ generations in a day is moving at the proper reproductive rate to be in an evolutionary dance with a bacteriophage.
Bacteriophages are a group of viruses that used bacterial cells as host and reproduce by infecting bacterial cells. Like all other viruses bacteriophages are also consisting of a protein coat that provides protection to the genome. Most of the phages are DNA viruses that code for several genes responsible for virus replication. A major problem of using plasmids as a cloning vector is the size of the gene of interest is small. However, bacteriophages help to overcome this problem, as larger genes can be transferred by using bacteriophage as a cloning vector.
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Bacteriophages always acted as a single entity and always had a specific target bacteria. They are the single largest killer of life on the planet every day. For example, each day all of the different bacteriophages kill 40% of all bacteria life in the ocean.
They have a target bacteria that they are 'in a dance with' and their evolutionary shifting function is something that may be altered daily or weekly so that the protein keys work...the bacteria, on the other hand is rapidly modifying its own 'key' receptors so that the bacteriophage will not have access to its cells.
So, these supra-organisms of bacteriophage colonies are all highly advanced billions of years old machines for controlling an overabundance of bacterial life. They are the antithesis to life. Literally.
This is how versatile they are...they started to blame the testing kits; saying 10% of the testing kits returned a false result...but that is wrong...the bacteriophages no longer had the protein keys they were looking for with the testing kits because they had mutated beyond them.
This is how fast this thing is advancing.
So they decided to start looking for the TB aspect in the lungs as well as using the testing kits to screen the [declining] number of people who will have the original glycoprotein signature. I guess they do not want to admit how totally outclassed they are by the virus that it is capable of out maneuvering their ability to even test for it consistently let alone DO ANYTHING about it.
Ok, so, this would be bad enough if this was the only issue (this is what SARS basically is). It is not the only issue though.
The HIV aspect:
The insertion from the HIV enables the supra organism of the SARS bacteriophage to rewrite the RNA of its target so that it produces or sheds billions of copies of itself (this is why these fit so nicely together because this (to a lesser extent) would have been something the bacteriophage would have done naturally anyway but they dovetailed the HIV in there to allow it to reproduce the supra organism COVID rather than just the smaller macrophage. The R0 factor on this is off the charts, and this is where the Wave comes in.
Patient 0 (they STILL will not divulge who it was) was actively shedding this by the billions for
two weeks when they first entered the Wuhan market. I need to digress for a moment to the bacteriophage:
The reason you can be an active and asymptomatic 'shedder' is because it takes a lot longer to kill an entire collective symbiotic system of cells than it takes a bacteriophage to kill one bacteria.
So...IF ONE of the COVID 'virus' enters your system and attaches to an ACE2 receptor it will commandeer that cell and begin manufacturing the COVID virus andfrom that point forwards you are the walking dead.
Essentially you are ASYMPTOMATIC while you are shedding virus because it is killing you as slowly as possible while you, as a Supra organism yourself, have no idea you are even ill because the body experiences many millions of cell deaths everyday and this is not an unusual state for the body.
This is why there is latency (slower death) when you have fewer ACE2 receptors. Because an abundance of ACE2 receptors means that more COVID catches hold and reproduces faster, NOT THAT is doesn't catch hold in someone with fewer receptors but rather it simply takes longer for it to overwhelm the host body.
This is not a 'positive' but rather a 'negative' since there will be no indication to either you or anyone else that you are shedding the virus for a month or more while your body is being gradually overthrown.
I am guesstimating - based on what I witnessed in Wuhan - that each person sheds BILLIONS and BILLIONS of COVID viruses into the environment as it is USING ALL THE RESOURCES of the human body in non-stop production of itself.
Bacteria have limited motility and they cannot 'move about' in the same way a Supra organism like a human being can; so to the COVID virus you are like an airplane that will takes its COVID 'passengers' to new and interesting places...i.e. spreading the infection).
When the body has COVID and 'dies' from it, that is when it is at PEAK production and replicating it inside the body...there is literally no more room or resources (hormones and proteins the functional chemistry of the human body and required for continuation of life) for anything other than COVID replication.
This is why they were trying to use SO2 to 'disinfect the air' in Wuhan. Sulfur is a killer of fungi. Mycobacteria (TB, leprosy etc) are all fungi of a special class (myco means fungi).
So, again the genetic breakdown that we know thus far is 88% SARS, 2% HIV and 10% TB that utilized synthetic biology to assemble.
The aspects of SARS that made it 'not very good at killing' were all modified to produce something with ENHANCED ability to kill. Where SARS was weak, HIV and TB were both strong. By splicing the HIV and TB into the SARS virus, they enhanced it to an ELE status.
When someone realized they were not having any effect killing the airborne COVID virus, they stopped with the mass poisoning of Wuhan using SO2.
There were a lot of rumors concerning the mass burning of bodies of the dead causing the spike in
SO2 but the human body doesn't have enough SO2 in it to account for the levels of SO2 that Wuhan was exhibiting.
Hence...Waves.
These are only a matter of mathematical functions since the RNA of COVID is not 'alive' in any sense of the word what we are concerned about it reproduction success in distribution functions. Let's say that there are (or, were, last I checked which was 1 week ago - in 'viral time' an eternity) 24 mutations of the original bioweapon.
But let's say that Version 5 was the most successful...reproducing 80% of the time.
There is no conferred immunity because of the nature of the highly-mutagenic key nature of bacteriophages. So, if a particular key is successful in gaining entry for reproduction, then the next wave of infection would be the mutation that enjoyed the highest reproductive success.
Also, keep in mind that since every infected human now sheds the virus continuously until they die, they are living with a compromised immune system. Meaning that much of their DNA/RNA is not given over to their own needs but rather to the parasitic functions of reproducing the virus. So 'recovery' in the classic sense of conferred immunity is impossible.
The HIV insertions have allowed COVID to co-op the functions that it used to be responsible for.
Therefore, for the rest of your life, you will shed the virus that you were infected with.
However, with part of your body becoming non-functional in terms of hormones and proteins it will be lacking the materials and resources needed for its OWN reproduction and function since those have been co-opted for viral reproduction. Wicked stuff.
Note carefully - The 2nd WAVE is going to cause massive failure in whichever systems the nCov has targeted inside your body.
ACE2 receptors are found in the heart, lungs, mucous membranes, testes (and probably ovum; leading to infertility), kidneys and liver...etc etc etc. When the 2nd Wave mutation hits people there are no more proteins and hormones that will allow organs to function...and they simply cease working. Remember how people are simply dropping dead in their tracks. I know that the Doctor said that it 'was the medicine'...but it is not. It is a product of having your body turned over to a BioWeapon to manufacture ITSELF. You become a walking bioweapon factory for the COVID virus
We have absolutely no idea what the long term ramification are for 'survivors' of the virus since we know nothing about what having RNA co-opted over months and years (lifetime) will lead to...for example a goiter is a lack of iodine in the human body...but what if iodine was an integral component of viral production? It would take all the resources for itself and leave the body bereft of iodine (and I am just using this as an off the cuff example).
Causes
Your thyroid gland produces two main hormones — thyroxine (T-4) and triiodothyronine (T-3). These hormones circulate in your bloodstream and help regulate your metabolism. They maintain the rate at which your body uses fats and carbohydrates, help control your body temperature, influence your heart rate, and help regulate the production of proteins.
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Your thyroid gland also produces calcitonin — a hormone that helps regulate the amount of calcium in your blood.
Your pituitary gland and hypothalamus control the rate at which T-4 and T-3 are produced and released.
The hypothalamus — an area at the base of your brain that acts as a thermostat for your whole system — signals your pituitary gland to make a hormone known as thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH). Your pituitary gland — also located at the base of your brain — releases a certain amount of TSH , depending on how much thyroxine and T-3 are in your blood. Your thyroid gland, in turn, regulates its production of hormones based on the amount of TSH it receives from the pituitary gland.
Having a goiter doesn't necessarily mean that your thyroid gland isn't working normally. Even when it's enlarged, your thyroid may produce normal amounts of hormones. It might also, however, produce too much or too little thyroxine and T-3.
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See how one small thing can destabilize a symbiotic organization as in the goiter example? All of those hormones and proteins keep things functional.
This is what I 'know' thus far. As new information is presented to me I can get a better idea of what is happening and so far I have the 'overview' since I didn't get that far in school to get into the minutiae. This is a good thing in some ways. Since I have a conceptual rather than detailed understanding, I can assess the entire situation without getting bogged down in the little stuff.
I guess what shocked and disappointed me was the thought of how quickly the virus would finish Asia (and then Europeans)...I sort of freak out when I am confronted with exactly how little time is really left.
I probably forgot to explain many things or didn't include the research since it is weeks' worth and I tend to absorb things conceptually and then move onto the next understanding.
I am not 100% sure why this info is being targeted and censored so widely by the big corporations. Google, Yahoo, Reddit, VOAT, the Chans and all their AIs are all targeting anyone who even mentions the TB (Mycobacteria) in connection with COVID...don't 'test that out' with any account you care about because you will get hammered or thrown out of any forums and your account will most likely be deleted. I don't know why but that is SERIOUSLY UPSETTING for the parasitic class. It is like an instant trigger for deletion.
I have never seen this type of resistance to information before.
Here is a video on synthetic biology just so that you can understand how easy this is to really splice anything you desired together at this point. For someone to have a meltdown, censor and delete accounts etc, just because you mention that it has other splices in the RNA of the virus is pretty crazy.
My theory on that is that they only care about controlling the information until you are dead or too sick to do anything about it. This is also why it seems to me that they are deliberately (through inaction) not controlling the borders. Or, if you are feeling diabolical, they are actually encouraging the spread of the virus.
View: https://youtu.be/rD5uNAMbDaQ

They MUST KNOW that you need one of these, FOR LIFE, to resist the spread of it and yet they are treating it as if it was 'just the flu'. Drs in Wuhan were spending 14 hours a day in protective gear with one diaper on for that entire time because it was too infectious for them to risk removing their protective gear. Uncountable TRILLIONS of particles must be circulating in the hospitals and ERs. Not to mention airplanes, cruise ships, trains, busses, cars, stores, sports arenas and stadiums
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CaryC

CaryC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
TxGal

TxGal

Day by day
northern watch said:
EndGameWW3‏ @EndGameWW3 now1 minute ago

Costco Sells Out Of Emergency Food Kits Online Amidst Coronavirus Outbreak
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Wow, they are out 100%. I checked just a few days ago, simply to monitor the sheeple. There were just a few sold out, plenty of Mountain House in #10 cans, etc. Now completely gone, the entire category. That says a lot.

ETA - I just checked Emergency Essentials (www.beprepared.com), and they are fast running out...many, many items showing out of stock. Anyone who has been thinking about ordering best get to it pronto. Honeyville (www.honeyville.com) also is heading that way. Cripes.....

ETA#2 - Pleasant Hill Grain (www.pleasanthillgrain.com) is out of many of their superpails - rice, beans, etc.
 
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vector7

vector7

Dot Collector
Good video explanation and concerning how this Covid-19 attacks the body...

marsh said:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0A0LyMru3I
12:55 min
3 COVID-19 Cases As Described By Doctors In China
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Ragnarok said:
Exactly... Now, I thought this was debunked but it is resurfacing, again, with new data... It may have been correct, all along.






Scientists Discover HIV-Like "Mutation" Which Makes Coronavirus Extremely Infectious
https://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden
Wed, 02/26/2020 - 19:45

While mainstream scientists continue to perform mental gymnastics to insist that the new coronavirus wasn't man-made, new research from scientists in China and Europe reveal that the disease happens to have an 'HIV-like mutation' which allows it to bind with human cells up to 1,000 times stronger than the Sars virus, according to SCMP.



Recall that at the end of January, a team of Indian scientists wrote in a now-retracted, scandalous paper claiming that the coronavirus may have been genetically engineered to incorporate parts of the HIV genome, writing "This uncanny similarity of novel inserts in the 2019- nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature," meaning - it was unlikely to have occurred naturally.

Fast forward to new research by a team from Nankai University, which writes that COV-19 has an 'HIV-like mutation' that allows it to quickly enter the human body by binding with a receptor called ACE2 on a cell membrane.





"This finding suggests that 2019-nCoV [the new coronavirus] may be significantly different from the Sars coronavirus in the infection pathway," reads the paper published this month on Chinaxiv.org - a platform used by the Chinese Academy of Sciences which releases research papers prior to peer-review.

"This virus may use the packing mechanisms of other viruses such as HIV," they added.

For those confused, what the latest scientific paper claims is that whereas the Coronavirus may indeed contain a specific HIV-like feature that makes it extremely infectious, that was the result of a rather bizarre "mutation." However, since the scientists did not make the scandalous claim that Chinese scientists had created an airborne version of HIV, but instead blamed a mutation, they will likely not be forced to retract it, even if it the odds of such a "random" mutation taking place naturally are extremely small.

As a reminder, the running narrative is that the new coronavirus lie dormant in bats somewhere between 20 and 70 years, then 'crossed over' to humans through and unknown species - possibly a Pangolin - before it emerged at a Wuhan, China meat market roughly 900 feet from a level-4 bioweapons lab.

And what were they researching at said lab? Among other things - why Ebola and HIV can lie dormant in bats without causing diseases.

According to the new study, the 'mutation' can generate a structure known as a cleavage site in the new coronavirus' spike protein, SCMP reports. "Compared to the Sars’ way of entry, this binding method is “100 to 1,000 times” as efficient, according to the study."

(a recent paper published by Dr. Zhou Peng of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, meanwhile, is "Immunogenicity of the spike glycoprotein of Bat SARS-like coronavirus.")

According to the report, a follow-up study from a Huazhong University of Science and Technology in Wuhn confirmed Nankai University's findings.



Chinese scientists speculate that drugs targeting the fuirn enzyme could potentially hinder the virus' replication inside the human body. Drugs up for consideration include "a series of HIV-1 therapeutic drugs such as Indinavir, Tenofovir Alafenamide, Tenofovir Disoproxil and Dolutegravir and hepatitis C therapeutic drugs including Boceprevir and Telaprevir," according to Li's study.

The conclusion is in line with several reports from doctors who self-administered HIV drugs after testing positive for coronavirus, however there have been no clinical tests to confirm the theory.

All perfectly "natural."

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bw

bw

Fringe Ranger
TheSearcher said:
Their "response" is the non-verbal actions, etc., that the Chinese have been pursuing. So you're speculating.
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We are all speculating regarding China, since they are less than forthcoming. Their response tells us they have millions dead. Shuttling incinerators like playing Tetris tells us. Nearly a billion under ~quarantine tells us. South Korea's more honest numbers pull aside the Chinese curtain and tells us what the Chinese have been hiding. Two weeks ago there were credible estimates of 250,000 dead, and the numbers double every three to six days.

We don't have to listen, but this is what their response tells us.
 
20Gauge

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
Housecarl said:
ABC Radio/KSFO reporting that patient being treated at UC Davis did not travel nor had any contacts that had. So the virus should be considered to be "in the wild" in the Sacramento/Northern California area.

MERDE!....
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Considering that people regularly poop in the potted plants in order to help them grow, yeah I expect it is in the wild.... now the question is can we put a wall around California now?
 
TheSearcher

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
About China's response: There is a pretty good chance that the response may be aggressive less due to the severity of the contagion, and more a chance to commit a massive crackdown
bw said:
We are all speculating regarding China, since they are less than forthcoming. Their response tells us they have millions dead. Shuttling incinerators like playing Tetris tells us. Nearly a billion under ~quarantine tells us. South Korea's more honest numbers pull aside the Chinese curtain and tells us what the Chinese have been hiding. Two weeks ago there were credible estimates of 250,000 dead, and the numbers double every three to six days.

We don't have to listen, but this is what their response tells us.
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As we don't know the real death and/or infection rate in China, by definition we do not have a fact to state. There are different possibilities to consider, ranging from the numbers being worse that we're told to being nowhere near as bad. The implications either way are dire for somebody, and you're picking the "worse than told" end of the spectrum.

I understand why you would do that, but it still isn't a fact.

I personally don't know which end to believe. If it's worse than admitted, then they have got a tiger by the tail, it's now chewing their ass and they won't admit it. That being said, for some reason, once CoronaChan fan dances its way out of China, the performance fades. There are numerous reasons for that perception, and we've been discussing that.

If China is inflating the numbers, it sounds like China is using CoronaChan to crack down on dissidents and/or trying to burn down the world economy since it was losing the trade war.

Who knows? All some of us are asking is a measured "response" of our own.
 
SmithJ

SmithJ

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hiwall said:
The bulk of the population in the USA are not going to change what they do. They are still going to go out to eat their meals. They are still going to go to all events of any kind. They are still going to shop for groceries daily. Our schools will stay open. Kids will still go to daycare. People will still entertain and have parties.
The virus will run rampant in the USA and there will be no stopping it.
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And giggle while they do it......…..
 
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