Misc/Chat Pics of my small suburban homestead & garden (no thumbs)

UncurledA

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I am so impressed. You even have a quince !! How scarce is that ! I admire the hard work and resolve this shows.

I'm a woodcutting and splitting fool, too, bro.

You have a house there that will sell under most any circumstances, unlike the cookie-cutter boxes on blase neatly mowed lawns, for when you do get ready to move.
 
Great use of the space! It looks like years of planning...I LOVE your house! It looks like a doll-house. I know the idea of moving to acreage is sound, but what about your parents? With the work you've done on your place, wouldn't ya'll be pretty self-sustaining where you are? (I'm not sure that we'll be safe from the zombie hordes...anywhere.)

I'm in my first year of planning/planting. Before this winter, I never had money for ANYthing, much less for a garden (because it takes lots of time, too). Now that it's in, I have time to care for the garden--even though I'm not as diligent as I should be. As my health improves (arthritis was kicking my butt for quite a few years), I am able to do much more.

This pic is of the north garden beds (facing west)--I have 16 4' x 8' raised garden beds and an in-ground garden that is about 16' x 20'...I'll have to measure it sometime. I grow plenty of veggies for myself and my friends, but I may put in another couple of beds--just to cut down on the amount of mowing I have to do.

I've looked into chickens, but keeping them would be against my deed restrictions. I've thought about getting some chicks for Easter and then just quietly keeping them in the backyard.

PS: I watched this video...loved it! Then followed it to many more...I don't remember who posted it originally, but I think this person has an even smaller lot than yours. I don't know the dimensions of my lot--just that it's 3/4 an acre. Anyway, I thought it had some great ideas about water collection...thought you might like it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyVNAgrbQz4
 

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rugmaker

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Imaginative and Loon...wow, great work. Everything looks so neat. You guys should teach a class. I'm trying to get better about utilizing extra space. I have a lot less that you two and since it's not my place, I'll have to plant in pots. No chickens here, but we do have wild turkeys and deer and elk on the mountain. You do what you can with what you have. All the pics are an inspiration.

Imaginative, tell your lazy cat that that is not the best place for a nap. LOL
 

Loon

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Hey rugmaker! Good to "see" you. Long time.

You can grow an amazing amount of food in containers. Just start with good soil and make sure you keep them watered and fertilized. I know one man on my garden forum who lives in Florida in a trailer. Because his soil is basically sand he grows tons of stuff in containers and it's beautiful. He posts pics all the time. Just jump in there and start. It is fun to watch things grow and very theraputic.
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
Thanks for all the compliments y'all.

Yeah UncurledA that quince is fairly uncommon. I took a cutting from a quince tree and planted in a few (4 maybe?) years ago- it took just fine. Next year I expect to harvest from the tree. I personally am not too fond of the taste- but quince jam is pretty good. There are all sorts of rather unique uses for this self-pollinating fruit.

Here is a pic of the harvest from today. The yellow items are zucchini flowers...
 

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imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
You guys should teach a class. I'm trying to get better about utilizing extra space.

Well how about I start teaching that class right now (wink)

In that pic above I have a small breakfast nook where the kitchen table is. Previously the table had 4 chairs surrounding it and getting in & out and cleaning the floor was a real PITA. Add to that, as preppers, there really never is enough space. So what to do?

Well I decided to build some bench seating with hinged lids that allowed for storage under the seating area. Now whenever we have guest here at the house there is no need to move chairs- just slide right over; I've had 12 people sitting around the table.

This storage area is great for about anything but I store primarily pasta and have about (best guess) 800 lbs there; I suspect that I could easily double that amount...
 

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imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
I've looked into chickens, but keeping them would be against my deed restrictions. I've thought about getting some chicks for Easter and then just quietly keeping them in the backyard.

PS: I watched this video...loved it! Then followed it to many more...I don't remember who posted it originally, but I think this person has an even smaller lot than yours. I don't know the dimensions of my lot--just that it's 3/4 an acre. Anyway, I thought it had some great ideas about water collection...thought you might like it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyVNAgrbQz4

Thanks for the pics & that link. If you looked at my last pic on pg 1 you can see my simple raincatching barrel. Her system was far more elaborate than mine- I just scoop with a bucket.

Now about getting chickens in the city (and BTW from other pics that you've posted you look fairly rural) what I did was look into doing either honeybees, rabbits or chickens. My son & I decided that chickens would be our best bet.

So I called the city and said "My son and I would like to do a project of raising a few chickens this year, can we do it"

"You mean like a 4-H project?" The city guy asked.

"Yeah, like a 4-egg project" I said while proudly grinning at my sly twisting of his question.

"Uh...sure...that would be fine" he tells me.

Did you know that hens make almost no noise? And if you keep them in some cute little pen/coop tucked away somewhere on your property....

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...just saying.....:groucho:
 
Houston has belts of "city" and belts of "farmland"...but, the real farmland is grandfathered in. Mine isn't. that's just "an empty lot" behind me. It's about a 1 mile by 2 or 3 mile plot of land, but it's between two city limits and my particular street is not zoned for farmland.

That chicken house is really cute! I'm going to have to try that...my daughter isn't in 4-H, but who cares? LOL I'll bet she'd love to do a project like that. First, a fence...I don't want those coyotes going after my chickens!

I've thought about bees, too. Seriously. I've bought the books and looked into buying the bees. My parents kept bees for years. I "know" how to do it...doing it myself, however, is the kicker. I don't want to get them and then stop caring for them. (As a person with ADHD, I can do a lot...but I lose interest fairly quickly, too.)
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
Very inspiring! Thanks for the vid link, that old hippie has a lot of useful ideas, bully for him showing that it CAN be done in the city, and done well enough for a secondary income if one wanted.

Most of our lot space is sandy soil, pure, dry granular sand, but we have a corner wedge of it that is probably 20x30 feet with great soil, so we planted some things there. On the sandy hillside, we dug in some compost, steer manure and potting soil where the plants were being set because we didn't have enough to do the entire ground, and so far it's ok. We put a fresh fish carcasse under one of the tomato plants when we planted and it's the biggest plant out there now, in spite of using Alaska fish fertilizer on all plants.

This summer we are utilizing a compost pile, saving all grass clippings and then will be plowing it under to help the sandy soil in case we are still stuck here next year. If I think to I'll take pictures of what little area we have. I want raised beds, we have such a small space to garden in and we are in a mobile home park-we don't own the land.

It's great to see that a small space doesn't mean a small volume of harvest, the man on the video said they harvest 6000 pounds a year on their place! They do have a year round garden, but still...

Love the interior and exterior of your home, Imaginative, fresh, clean and beautiful! Thank you for sharing.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
OK. I'm OFFICIALLY jealous.

My major issue is that when we moved INTO this house in 80, the first thing we did was scrape and paint it...removing the HIGH probability lead paint, which fell to the ground around the house...thus tainting the soil around the house.

Second thing we did was to leave the small trees in the back yard (I was SUCH a POLLY DGI back then) and now the trees, while they assure us of shade for the back yard, also virtually GUARANTEE a VERY thin understory and NO gardening...

Which is OK since we will be outta here in a couple months (if all goes well, im'sha'la) and we can choose a better set-up.
 

Deena in GA

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What a wonderful thread!!! Imaginative, I am so very impressed with your home and gardens! You've opened my eyes to some ideas that can be used around here. I absolutely love the idea of having edible borders and such.

Thank you to all who have shared pictures of their places, chickens and gardens! It all looks great!

You know, my garden is winding down for the year - or so I thought. Now I've been energized to rethink and see what else we can do. Thanks!
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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It's a really nice-looking place. I almost moved it about 3AM but decided to leave it a bit longer but, well...Yeah, had to move it. :)
 

lisa

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Loved the house and the garden and the chicks were darling! But 800 POUNDS OF PASTA?!!!!!!!! I think your Italian is really showing there!:lkick:
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
Thanks for all your encouraging comments;

BTW- 800 lbs of pasta isn't really THAT much....is it?

Who had the sig line that read something like 'having too much stuff will be a self-correcting problem when TSHTF'? (or something along those line). The Wall Str Jrnl prognosticated last year said that the best investment to be made in '08 would be food;most of that was bought real cheap and certainly will last for quite some time (besides I'm gonna have a kagillion tomatoes starting in a week or 2 and I make & can sauce weekly)

Chuck- you leaving the failed city of Cleveland? Firstly, congrats & godspeed. Secondly, dont do anything drastic like leaving the great state of Ohio (well, with the possible exception of WVA or maybe KY)

Whereabouts are you looking? Rural central and Southern Ohio land is just a great bargain these days- that's where I'd be inclined to go.

That lettuce border really is a quick & convenient way to make a quick meal- and this year my family can hardly keep up with the abundance.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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only 800lbs? I am not big on pasta but I would have no issues with 800lbs of pickled jalapenos-the more the merrier I ay. ;)
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
Beautiful and well-maintained plants and structures. The only thing I would recommend is maybe a circular garden wall around the tree in the front yard and then planted with shade-loving hostas. I'm a garden wall block nut and have used them extensively. Great job!



I thought long and hard before starting & the block retaining walls really seemed to be the best use of space that I had. All of the dirt is leaf humus and various organic compostings- extremely rich soil. In addition to the nutrients- it drains well and the raised beds allow me to plant way earlier than a ground based garden would. This year was the first year I didnt plant in April (and I can count on 1 hand the number of plants Ive lost to frost in the past 17 years.

The garden that is around the chicken coop came within an inch of getting surrounded by barnstone and backfilled with maybe 30 yards of compost. It was just too cold & wet this spring to move those heavy stones around...maybe next year.


I ran across some unilock-type retaining wall blocks on craigslist that I just couldnt pass-up last week. So, rather than using barnstone (Those stones weigh several hundred lbs each) I expanded the garden around the coop and dumped 18 yds of 'supersoil' from a local Earth&Wood into the new raised bed garden.

If anyone is interested- I'll snap a few pics.

I am absolutely looking forward to this coming Spring and the new garden
 

Loon

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Of course we want to see pics!!

I'm having a problem with my chickens. THey free range and are now getting into my flower bed out front. My veggie garden has an eight foot fence around it so everything is safe there. My flower bed is 15' x 45' and is made with those locking retaining wall type blocks. I have all perennials in there. Well, the chickens have discovered it and get in there and poop and peck which is fine but they scrach big holes everywhere. I finally had to use snow fencing inside the bed to keep them out. THis works but looks horrid. Somehow I hope they forget over winter it's out there so when I take the fence down next spring they don't get in there. Makes me mad. I caught them today down in the ditch in front by the road eating whatever chickens eat in a ditch. :) They're happy chickens though. They are still laying good and give us breakfast every morning.

Do you think deer repellant like Liquid Fence would deter them from getting in there? It works good for the deer and rabbits. I guess I could spray it next spring and see if it works.
 

summerthyme

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Loon.. chickens NEVER forget where there is nice soil! Some things you can try: put chicken wire down on the soil... the plants grow up through it and it's pretty well invisible, but the hens can't scratch up the soil through it. If you have established plants- like your perennial bed- you'll have to cut up the wire into strips and pieces to place them around the plants, but it can be done.

A REAL redneck way of dealing with it is to cut up pieces of rosebush (really good use for those rotten multiflora roses that grow everywhere her like weeds) stems, and scatter them all around the beds. The thorns hurt the chickens toesies, and they avoid the bed. Of course, the thorns also hurt your hands if you hand weed, so you need to be aware of that drawback!

I'm not sure chickens are "trainable"... it might be worth trying a small electric fence set up (one of the cheaper solar powered fencers to charge it)- and use "Polywire" (ask at a farm store) on SHORT "posts" (like 12" long, so the wire ends up 4-6" above the ground) strung here and there throughout the beds. If they get zapped a few times, they may learn it's not the nicest place for dust baths. Or not... you can never tell with chickens.

But this problem is one reason I don't free range my hens during the growing season at all- they get turned out in very early spring, and late fall, but have a large run for other times.

summerthyme
 

Loon

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Those are some good ideas. I'm hoping they "pattern" to bypass the bed since it's off limits now. They've found the ditch is a pretty good place to hunt. If I can't keep them out of the bed I'll just let them have it for a playground I guess. I don't know. I may put down some Milorganite and see if that turns them off. It turns off the deer and rabbits. I have all winter to think about it I guess.
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
Then I ran across a teriffic deal on craigslist that I couldnt pass-up. I was able to add about 260 s/f in garden size and raised the raised bed garden about 10 or 12"

The after...
 

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imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
They're happy chickens though. They are still laying good and give us breakfast every morning.

Happy poopy chickens are what it is all about. I get a coffee can of chicken poop for the garden every day! And Im getting 5 or 6 eggs almost every day...healthy little creatures.

Here they are at 4 months old...

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and now at eight months...
 

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Loon

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Are those golden comets? They sort of look like mine.

Do your chickens get in your flowers/vegetables? I'm mad at mine. They have 28 acres here they can free range on and they pick my flower bed to hang out. I don't let them out if it's raining. I'm sure they could find more bugs and stuff on the edge of the woods but they keep coming to my flower bed. Thank God they can't get in the veggie garden. They are so much fun. They are like dogs. They come right up and squat down for you to pet them.

You did a great job on the new beds. Everything looks so organized and tidy. You must live near the south to be planting in four more months. We won't plant till last week of May or first of June depending on the weather. I'll get plants started inside though around first of April.
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
Loon- mine are Buff Orpingtons.

When I looked into what type to get these seemed like they would be a good fit for me here in Ohio. They a cold weather hardy bird that are considered fairly good layers and lay all winter. Each Buff is supposed to average 2 eggs every 3 days according to what I've read. These 6 pullets are giving me 5 or 6 most every day; they only occasionally give 4 /day.

I let them 'free range' in my little back yard and they do get into the garden but they don't damage any veggies except for the occasional tomato peck; they mostly just scratch in the dirt. As soon as my grapes matured- the chickens just went nuts- jumping and flying up and eating EVERY grape one at a time. Now I buy grapes and give them one or 2 every day. When I whistle at them they all come running/waddling like dogs- its the goofiest sight.

I'm in Ohio and I start to plant in April almost every year- I think this Spring was the first April that I didnt have plants in. All the old Italian ladies around here tell me I plant too early but I never have any problems- and they always come by around harvest time to 'admire' (i.e. pick) the garden.
 

Loon

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I wonder if they are related to the golden comets? Being cold hardy is one reason I bought the golden comets. They started laying at 16 weeks and are good layers. We have 6 goldens and 6 RIR. We're getting 10-12 eggs every day still. I got one free white bird. It's a fancy bird. I think it's a light brahma. She's the biggest and the worst scratcher. :) A little scratching is good. THey sort of weed around trees and other things and eat the bugs. They just get carried away and like to make holes to lay down in. :) We love "whitey" though. Maybe I should till up a "chicken" garden by their pen just for them. I could plant all the things they love to eat and maybe they'd just hang out there.
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
We're getting 10-12 eggs every day still.

What do you do with all those eggs?

We have to make a deliberate effort to consume the 5 or 6 that we get and then I still have eggs to give away.

and the chickens get scrambled eggs every week or 2
 

Loon

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We have a couple egg customers who stop by and pay us for the extras. We eat eggs every morning. My mom lives with us so that is six eggs each day. If I get too many I make egg salad.

I don't think you're supposed to feed eggs to chickens. It will make them want to eat their own eggs and then you're in trouble.........at least that's what I've read. I have fed some leftover scrambled eggs to the barn cats and I use 10 eggs in my recipe for dog food. I save the shells from the eggs we cook. I wash and sterilize them in the microwave then crush them up into a powder and use that as a calcium supplement in my dog food receipe. It's the purest form of calcium you can get and it's free for me.

What are you going to give your chickens for "greens" in the winter after the ground is covered in snow? Yesterday, we bought some bales of alfalfa......second and third cut. I also bought a big bag of carrots meant for deer food. I'm not sure if the chickens will like carrots or not but the price was cheap. We routinely give them laying mash, grit, cracked corn, sunflowers and some leftover pond fish food and any kitchen scraps. We also picked a few bushels of apples off our trees and have them in cold storage for the chickens this winter.

It's snowing outside now but not laying on the ground. Winter is here I'm afraid. My husband made a warmer for the chicken waterer. Works great.
 

Loon

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OK, I just looked it up and I guess as long as the eggs are cooked it's OK to feed to the chickens. Seems like such a waste though. :) I'd never feed chicken to the chickens cause that just seems wrong. :)
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
Well, here we are with another trip around the calendar. This year, with all the cold and rain the garden went in a bit late- but seems to be doing pretty well. Ive been filling all my bowls in the house with spinach- swiss chard and other greens everyday. Zucchinis are just around the corner- then tomatos- bean- peppers and so on.
 

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imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
A few more- hopefully ( I seem to be having some trouble with my photo software)
 

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Loon

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Looks good!! It was fun going back and reading what we wrote last year. :) Since that writing we've lost a couple of our old hens and added some new ones. I bought 10 light brahmas and they threw in a free one in case one died in transit then they gave me a free fancy hen. Not sure what she is yet. They are about 5 weeks old now and will soon join the big girls. I picked this breed because they're white and it will be easy to tell the new birds from the old ones. :) I like these. We had one from last year and she lays well and is sweet and gentle but big.

I'll have to get my camera out soon and start taking pics too.
 

Red Sky

Southern Lady who loves the old paths
It's lovely and so practical. How much time do you spend each day working in it and do you have much help. I am so amazed at your creativity!
 

h_oder

Veteran Member
Wow - I think this thread can officially be deemed as "Garden Porn"! Wonderful pics & thanks for sharing!
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
Thanks for all the replies. Come on and post some more great pics Loon

It's lovely and so practical. How much time do you spend each day working in it and do you have much help. I am so amazed at your creativity!

Thanks. I think most of the real work is in the Spring just getting the garden ready for the season. Once we hit the full stride of harvest time- that can be pretty intensive too. These days- I mostly get to sit and admire the true miracle of the development and growth of seeds/plants. Its amazing just how fast everything grows. About an hour before sunset I'll let the chickens out of their run and I'll either water, weed or just kick back. Tonight I got to just kick back a bit...
 

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Kathy in FL

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Aw, now I miss my old place again. We lived in the same place for fifteen years and I had my edible lanscaping in killer shape. Then last year we moved here. Only three doors down from the other place but it seems like another planet some times and I basically had to start over from scratch. Last year was a bad year to try and start over because of the "drought" or at least it was a drought by Florida standards. Right now we are getting rain every day which has its own set of problems. I haven't had a summer "garden" for two years now but in the fall I plan on putting in more raised beds.

Later I'll try and post pics of what we have done thus far.
 
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