GUNS/RLTD Virginia Dems' Gun-Grabbing Plans Are Already Backfiring

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vestige

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Va. Ag. says 2A sanctuaries have no legal force. Daisy Luther @ http:theorganicprepper.com has done an excellent evaluation of this statement. Briefly the constitution of Va, states all local authority is subject to the General Assembly. There is also a Dillon Rule which straightens his stance. There are other documents supporting the Ags position. In all her research her conclusion is for the state of Va 2nd amendment sanctuaries HAVE NO LEGAL FORCE.

I don't believe the concept of LEGAL FORCE is what is on the minds of the Virginians establishing 2nd Amendment sanctuaries. In fact, I don't think they give a rat's ass what the AG (or anyone else) thinks of their status... legal or otherwise.

They are forming tribes.

They may pursue legal relief but they are politely sending a message that they reserve the right to shoot any SOB that attempts to enforce what the nitwits in VA.gov are planning. The aforementioned nitwits would do well to observe that they too may end up in the line of fire.

JMHO
 
Raggedyman

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2DEES said:
An example of president and expected punishment in Connecticut:
A young 22 years old man went up to New Hampshire and purchased 4- 30 round mags for an AR 15 which he does not have. He bragged about his purchase on Face book. Some one turned him into authorities. He is now charged with 4 Felonies and I expect he will do jail time. Connecticut passed the high capacity mag law and a few years back. President has been set.I expect Va. will pass this legislation using Ct. and other states laws that has been enacted! Additionally he was living with his father who legally bought in his name a 9 mm handgun. The gun was seized. Don't know if hell get it back.

U.N. hiring disarmament officers in New York. Not sure if this was posted before?

Va. Ag. says 2A sanctuaries have no legal force. Daisy Luther @ http:theorganicprepper.com has done an excellent evaluation of this statement. Briefly the constitution of Va, states all local authority is subject to the General Assembly. There is also a Dillon Rule which straightens his stance. There are other documents supporting the Ags position. In all her research her conclusion is for the state of Va 2nd amendment sanctuaries HAVE NO LEGAL FORCE. Other states may or may not have this standing, you'll have to check out your own states constitution.

The closing of non gov. gun ranges is aimed at the NRA gun range in Fairfax, Va. The legislature crafted this legislation with the intent of closing this range. May be some wiggle room here to stop this proposed law. Violation of free trade.

Finally some of my personal observations concerning the flood of legislation against gun owners. If these laws are passed, they will all be challenged in court. This takes time and a lot of MONEY. This could be a way to bankrupt the VCDL and other organizations involved in this litigation. Lawyers are not cheap and I don't think anyone would work Pro Bono.
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not too many folks are going to give a tinkers damn about wiggle room, court costs and pro bono work. as far as 2A sanctuaries having "NO LEGAL FORCE" the logic of Joe & Jane 6 P WILL BE well fine then - if that's the case the sanctuary shitties for illegals better be playing by the same rules. CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS

JJ6P is fed-the-fork-up with double standards and being pushed against the wall. 2A is a HUGE line in the sand - you could call it the GRAND FREAKIN CANYON of lines in the sand.

I read all about your position on this - not only do I appreciate that it's yours - I sort of even somewhat understand why you took that stand on it all - but I guarantee you its the MINORITY position around these parts.

as I've said here on more than one occasion - when the music starts EVERYBODY will be off the porch - EVEN YOU - because THEY will have it NO OTHER WAY.

all we want is to be left alone - but commies don't ever seem to get that message without a great deal of pain and gnashing of teeth
 
Raggedyman

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vestige said:
#159:

Va. Ag. says 2A sanctuaries have no legal force. Daisy Luther @ http:theorganicprepper.com has done an excellent evaluation of this statement. Briefly the constitution of Va, states all local authority is subject to the General Assembly. There is also a Dillon Rule which straightens his stance. There are other documents supporting the Ags position. In all her research her conclusion is for the state of Va 2nd amendment sanctuaries HAVE NO LEGAL FORCE.

I don't believe the concept of LEGAL FORCE is what is on the minds of the Virginians establishing 2nd Amendment sanctuaries. In fact, I don't think they give a rat's ass what the AG (or anyone else) thinks of their status... legal or otherwise.

They are forming tribes.

They may pursue legal relief but they are politely sending a message that they reserve the right to shoot any SOB that attempts to enforce what the nitwits in VA.gov are planning. The aforementioned nitwits would do well to observe that they too may end up in the line of fire.

JMHO
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all we want is to be left alone - but commies don't ever seem to get that message without a great deal of pain and gnashing of teeth

and bullets... lots of bullets.

Commies understand bullets.
 
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vestige said:
I don't believe the concept of LEGAL FORCE is what is on the minds of the Virginians establishing 2nd Amendment sanctuaries. In fact, I don't think they give a rat's ass what the AG (or anyone else) thinks of their status... legal or otherwise.

They are forming tribes.

They may pursue legal relief but they are politely sending a message that they reserve the right to shoot any SOB that attempts to enforce what the nitwits in VA.gov are planning. The aforementioned nitwits would do well to observe that they too may end up in the line of fire.

JMHO
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Vestige IMHO I don't believe idiots in Richmond comprehend the possibility that Virginians can and will forcibly rise up against their tyranny. I really don't. If the Virginians do get a little frosty "they" will take care of it. "They" being LE: local, state and federal. The left really believes LE is capable of coping with a state full of people so pissed off they are literally ready to take up arms against them. This is why I believe Socialism is a debilitating mental ailment that robs the infected of the ability to do simple math. There are no way, no how enough LE or that all but a few of the most fanatical LE would even attempt it.

I believe Richmond will definitely push to see exactly how much they can get away with. If it comes to violent confrontation they will force the issue with whatever resources they can muster. When that doesn't work they will back down. Socialism can only succeed with an unarmed and fearful population. Sounds like Virginians are armed and pissed.
 
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So, a man or crew of men come to you with guns at the ready or pointed at you saying you need to give up your guns for your safety, and the safety of the public In general...and your supposed to just let them take them. Do I have this right?

So if they are willing to do the above when you have guns, what will they be doing when you don't have them?

War is coming, are you ready to die, right now?

A coward may live another day, but the brave Inspire men to do great things....

Which are you?

This is not a ****ing game, get that through your heads. (Traitors)
 
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Great conversations here!!! BUT MAN THE LIFE BOATS, THE FLOOD HAS STARTED!!!
Gun control bills schedules for Jan 13th 8 A.M. in Senate Judiciary.
SB12,22,35,69,70,240,450,505,543 and615. These relate to universal back checks,bans on carrying in Gov. buildings,parks,marches,etc.,one hand gun per month,red flag laws,closes non-exsistent gun show loop holes.
Although I respect your VIEWS, you SHOULD NOT act as if you speak for others!!!Everyone SHOULD only speak for them-self unless your God and know all thoughts and what EVERYONE believes???
The fact is I believe the gun owners of Va. are acting in a logical, peaceful manner to accomplish a desired result.
Obviously, you don't like what a west Virginian woman researched and posted. But the fact still remains that 2A sanctuaries have not been deemed to be of legal force. The fact that your upset because your stance has been refuted is understandable. No one likes to loose. Don't get mad at me get mad at those responsible. I agree our rights are being trampled! When you have an ex-president the younger Bush who stated that the constitution was nothing but a G.D. piece of paper, you realize your in trouble. Finally if EVERYONE as you say is not concerned with the importance of 2A sanctuaries then why are they even bothering to do it. It's a statement of their position only and it would seem MANY do care about it.
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Sacajawea

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I believe the word you're looking for is "precedent" - not "president".

And do me a favor, leave me out of your arguments.
 
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Sacajawea said:
I believe the word you're looking for is "precedent" - not "president".

And do me a favor, leave me out of your arguments.
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Thank you!! corrected spelling? Fat fingers and had an appointment to keep. A little rushed. What are you talking about?? Leaving you out of my arguments. None of this was directed at you. Please explain???
 
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I'm sorry to bust every one's bubble but red flag laws have been enforced 5 times in our state. No shots fired and all with out incident. Swat and LE had all the bases covered to ensure no problems or door kicking in!

It would seem most of the posters are NOT from Va. but 1 or 2 are? As stated BEFORE I have relatives there. I have direct personal contact with them. They served in the military and do not want an armed confrontation! In speaking with neighbors, work associates, friends and others, they do not want an armed confrontation either. So to say they want to rise up and start shooting is not what I'm hearing? Where are you getting this armed rebellion strategy from?? Let me add that some of these also served in the military and some have " Special Skills" but are not really interested in starting a war. There may be some who are, but neither me or them know of them. They are also just wanting to live out their lives in a peaceful manner.

All of my postings for Va. come from reliable Va, sources. My Own feelings and observations are my own and no one else's. I have pointed out various situations so you realize what's coming to YOUR states. It will not stop and you will have to make your own decisions as to how to handle it. It would seem some minds are already made up and that's your choice. The people in power only recognize their law and plan to enforce it as i have stated previously with some examples. It is a tragedy what is happening in Va . but it appears to me that Va. is a Beta test for the entire country. Once again this is the U.N. mandates as pushed forward by lackeys put into positions of power and controlled by their handlers!
 
Texican

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Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
When the Virginia authorities start taking legally owned and Constitutionally allowed firearms and with force will change what people will do....

Texican....
 
Lone_Hawk

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2DEES said:
I'm sorry to bust every one's bubble but red flag laws have been enforced 5 times in our state. No shots fired and all with out incident. Swat and LE had all the bases covered to ensure no problems or door kicking in!
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I missed it I guess, what state do you live in?

It would seem most of the posters are NOT from Va. but 1 or 2 are? As stated BEFORE I have relatives there. I have direct personal contact with them. They served in the military and do not want an armed confrontation! In speaking with neighbors, work associates, friends and others, they do not want an armed confrontation either. So to say they want to rise up and start shooting is not what I'm hearing? Where are you getting this armed rebellion strategy from?? Let me add that some of these also served in the military and some have " Special Skills" but are not really interested in starting a war. There may be some who are, but neither me or them know of them. They are also just wanting to live out their lives in a peaceful manner.
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No sane person wants armed conflict, so I'm not surprised that is what you are hearing, especially from combat veterans such as myself. But I feel confident they have plans B-D like I do.

All of my postings for Va. come from reliable Va, sources. My Own feelings and observations are my own and no one else's. I have pointed out various situations so you realize what's coming to YOUR states. It will not stop and you will have to make your own decisions as to how to handle it. It would seem some minds are already made up and that's your choice. The people in power only recognize their law and plan to enforce it as i have stated previously with some examples. It is a tragedy what is happening in Va . but it appears to me that Va. is a Beta test for the entire country. Once again this is the U.N. mandates as pushed forward by lackeys put into positions of power and controlled by their handlers!
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My son lives in VA, he feels the same way that I do, but he is getting an ear full from people who will not take this bending over.
 
DazedandConfused

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2DEES said:
I'm sorry to bust every one's bubble but red flag laws have been enforced 5 times in our state. No shots fired and all with out incident. Swat and LE had all the bases covered to ensure no problems or door kicking in!

It would seem most of the posters are NOT from Va. but 1 or 2 are? As stated BEFORE I have relatives there. I have direct personal contact with them. They served in the military and do not want an armed confrontation! In speaking with neighbors, work associates, friends and others, they do not want an armed confrontation either. So to say they want to rise up and start shooting is not what I'm hearing? Where are you getting this armed rebellion strategy from?? Let me add that some of these also served in the military and some have " Special Skills" but are not really interested in starting a war. There may be some who are, but neither me or them know of them. They are also just wanting to live out their lives in a peaceful manner.

All of my postings for Va. come from reliable Va, sources. My Own feelings and observations are my own and no one else's. I have pointed out various situations so you realize what's coming to YOUR states. It will not stop and you will have to make your own decisions as to how to handle it. It would seem some minds are already made up and that's your choice. The people in power only recognize their law and plan to enforce it as i have stated previously with some examples. It is a tragedy what is happening in Va . but it appears to me that Va. is a Beta test for the entire country. Once again this is the U.N. mandates as pushed forward by lackeys put into positions of power and controlled by their handlers!
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MinnesotaSmith

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War is a terrible thing, but there are worse things than war. The libs that took over VA's state government should remember that many gunowners in Virginia know that, and many more are quickly getting reminded of it.
 
MinnesotaSmith

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Raggedyman said:
"...as I've said here on more than one occasion - when the music starts EVERYBODY will be off the porch - EVEN YOU - because THEY will have it NO OTHER WAY.

all we want is to be left alone - but commies don't ever seem to get that message without a great deal of pain and gnashing of teeth
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Apt as ever: "You can vote your way into socialism easily enough, but you usually have to shoot your way out of it."
 
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Sorry to disappoint you southern boys but I live in R.I. I,m sure you will say now-Well that explains it. We maybe tougher than you think up here, Navy seals, USMC snipers,Rangers. Some I know some I just hear about. I'll tell you another event that happened here:

A Navy seal named Marchenco (sp.?)and some of his seal friends decided to test the security at the Naval sub base in Groton ,Ct. They did this on their own, it was not a government sanctioned test. They entered the sub base illegally, got on board a sub and basically took it over. When they started to torture the sailors on board to get info, Marchenco decided to shut it down. The incident was reported to the Navy, no action was taken against them and security measures corrected.

So you see if we up here wanted to start trouble, we too could do some damage. But I think it would be short lived. When you are an asset of the military, they love you, however when you leave, you are considered a threat. Hence the RED list. Prior to trouble starting ex-military, the ones, that they consider a threat, are rounded up and DEALT WITH IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS!!! A sniper I knew told me every time some one was shot in the surrounding area, the FBI showed up and asked for his whereabouts on that particular day and time.

So the government knows who is who. Algorithms that they use are attached to use all.


One last tid-bit that I discovered when talking with a Navy sailor was that if the U.S. is ever over run, you know those missiles on board, have a secondary target. It could be your city or town. BOOM problem solved!!! With all the tech. weaponry that is out there A-10 gun ships, helos, rockets, planes, tanks, artillery, mortar,FLIR, etc. and I haven't even mentioned space craft TR3Bs with all the bells and whistles. With all this in mind my personal belief is a war with the government is unwinnable and all it would do is wreck the country. Old man Bush said if a civil war ever broke out that it would take about 6 months to quell. You say never happen here but the power structure that wants to stay in power will resort to any and all means to maintain their position.

One last,last tid-bit. Say a civil war did start in this country, what a wonderful time to invade America buy Russia and China. I said it before and ill say it again COUNT THE COST, not only to you but your family as well. Everyone will suffer. That's why I feel every available legal and peaceful means should be tried. I am still critical for those who speak for others. Only speak for yourself! Rant off.
 
EMICT

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2DEES said:
Sorry to disappoint you southern boys but I live in R.I. I,m sure you will say now-Well that explains it. We maybe tougher than you think up here, Navy seals, USMC snipers,Rangers. Some I know some I just hear about. I'll tell you another event that happened here:

A Navy seal named Marchenco (sp.?)and some of his seal friends decided to test the security at the Naval sub base in Groton ,Ct. They did this on their own, it was not a government sanctioned test. They entered the sub base illegally, got on board a sub and basically took it over. When they started to torture the sailors on board to get info, Marchenco decided to shut it down. The incident was reported to the Navy, no action was taken against them and security measures corrected.

So you see if we up here wanted to start trouble, we too could do some damage. But I think it would be short lived. When you are an asset of the military, they love you, however when you leave, you are considered a threat. Hence the RED list. Prior to trouble starting ex-military, the ones, that they consider a threat, are rounded up and DEALT WITH IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS!!! A sniper I knew told me every time some one was shot in the surrounding area, the FBI showed up and asked for his whereabouts on that particular day and time.

So the government knows who is who. Algorithms that they use are attached to use all.


One last tid-bit that I discovered when talking with a Navy sailor was that if the U.S. is ever over run, you know those missiles on board, have a secondary target. It could be your city or town. BOOM problem solved!!! With all the tech. weaponry that is out there A-10 gun ships, helos, rockets, planes, tanks, artillery, mortar,FLIR, etc. and I haven't even mentioned space craft TR3Bs with all the bells and whistles. With all this in mind my personal belief is a war with the government is unwinnable and all it would do is wreck the country. Old man Bush said if a civil war ever broke out that it would take about 6 months to quell. You say never happen here but the power structure that wants to stay in power will resort to any and all means to maintain their position.

One last,last tid-bit. Say a civil war did start in this country, what a wonderful time to invade America buy Russia and China. I said it before and ill say it again COUNT THE COST, not only to you but your family as well. Everyone will suffer. That's why I feel every available legal and peaceful means should be tried. I am still critical for those who speak for others. Only speak for yourself! Rant off.
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That will last only as long as Bubba,Cletus and Bocephus, who work at Raytheon, Textron & Boeing, figure out that the stuff they are making and assembling are coming home to their town. Once they figure that out then explosions upon ignition, faulty guidance systems, etc will begin to rapidly appear.
 
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2DEES said:
One last tid-bit that I discovered when talking with a Navy sailor was that if the U.S. is ever over run, you know those missiles on board, have a secondary target. It could be your city or town. BOOM problem solved!!! With all the tech. weaponry that is out there A-10 gun ships, helos, rockets, planes, tanks, artillery, mortar,FLIR, etc. and I haven't even mentioned space craft TR3Bs with all the bells and whistles. With all this in mind my personal belief is a war with the government is unwinnable and all it would do is wreck the country. Old man Bush said if a civil war ever broke out that it would take about 6 months to quell. You say never happen here but the power structure that wants to stay in power will resort to any and all means to maintain their position.

One last,last tid-bit. Say a civil war did start in this country, what a wonderful time to invade America buy Russia and China. I said it before and ill say it again COUNT THE COST, not only to you but your family as well. Everyone will suffer. That's why I feel every available legal and peaceful means should be tried. I am still critical for those who speak for others. Only speak for yourself! Rant off.
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There was a long-standing rumor back from the 1980s that in the event of a full-scale nuclear exchange with the USSR, we would send a missile of our own at Miami. :D Add in LA, San Fran, Sacremento, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Detroit, Boston, NYC, Memphis, Gary IN, Newark, El Paso, Madison WI (sorry HC1), Trenton, Hartford, San Antonio, etc., and boy would our politics change.

Oh, and re Bush I saying CW2 would take 6 months, everyone (on all sides) at the time thought the War of Northern Aggression and WWI would both be even shorter than that (with Sherman a rare, prescient exception). Wars commonly are longer, messier, and above all bloodier than the principals at their beginning expect.
 
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Old Gringo

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2DEES said:
I'm sorry to bust every one's bubble but red flag laws have been enforced 5 times in our state. No shots fired and all with out incident. Swat and LE had all the bases covered to ensure no problems or door kicking in!

It would seem most of the posters are NOT from Va. but 1 or 2 are? As stated BEFORE I have relatives there. I have direct personal contact with them. They served in the military and do not want an armed confrontation! In speaking with neighbors, work associates, friends and others, they do not want an armed confrontation either. So to say they want to rise up and start shooting is not what I'm hearing? Where are you getting this armed rebellion strategy from?? Let me add that some of these also served in the military and some have " Special Skills" but are not really interested in starting a war. There may be some who are, but neither me or them know of them. They are also just wanting to live out their lives in a peaceful manner.

All of my postings for Va. come from reliable Va, sources. My Own feelings and observations are my own and no one else's. I have pointed out various situations so you realize what's coming to YOUR states. It will not stop and you will have to make your own decisions as to how to handle it. It would seem some minds are already made up and that's your choice. The people in power only recognize their law and plan to enforce it as i have stated previously with some examples. It is a tragedy what is happening in Va . but it appears to me that Va. is a Beta test for the entire country. Once again this is the U.N. mandates as pushed forward by lackeys put into positions of power and controlled by their handlers!
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So ....Your moral, personal position you will stand on is .............?

Or where is your red line ....?

Or do you have one ........?

Grandpa said anyone could stir up s--t

People we need are those who can flush the pot.

Which are you ........ a stirrer or a flusher ..... ?
 
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desertvet2

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2DEES said:
Sorry to disappoint you southern boys but I live in R.I. I,m sure you will say now-Well that explains it. We maybe tougher than you think up here, Navy seals, USMC snipers,Rangers. Some I know some I just hear about. I'll tell you another event that happened here:

A Navy seal named Marchenco (sp.?)and some of his seal friends decided to test the security at the Naval sub base in Groton ,Ct. They did this on their own, it was not a government sanctioned test. They entered the sub base illegally, got on board a sub and basically took it over. When they started to torture the sailors on board to get info, Marchenco decided to shut it down. The incident was reported to the Navy, no action was taken against them and security measures corrected.

So you see if we up here wanted to start trouble, we too could do some damage. But I think it would be short lived. When you are an asset of the military, they love you, however when you leave, you are considered a threat. Hence the RED list. Prior to trouble starting ex-military, the ones, that they consider a threat, are rounded up and DEALT WITH IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS!!! A sniper I knew told me every time some one was shot in the surrounding area, the FBI showed up and asked for his whereabouts on that particular day and time.

So the government knows who is who. Algorithms that they use are attached to use all.


One last tid-bit that I discovered when talking with a Navy sailor was that if the U.S. is ever over run, you know those missiles on board, have a secondary target. It could be your city or town. BOOM problem solved!!! With all the tech. weaponry that is out there A-10 gun ships, helos, rockets, planes, tanks, artillery, mortar,FLIR, etc. and I haven't even mentioned space craft TR3Bs with all the bells and whistles. With all this in mind my personal belief is a war with the government is unwinnable and all it would do is wreck the country. Old man Bush said if a civil war ever broke out that it would take about 6 months to quell. You say never happen here but the power structure that wants to stay in power will resort to any and all means to maintain their position.

One last,last tid-bit. Say a civil war did start in this country, what a wonderful time to invade America buy Russia and China. I said it before and ill say it again COUNT THE COST, not only to you but your family as well. Everyone will suffer. That's why I feel every available legal and peaceful means should be tried. I am still critical for those who speak for others. Only speak for yourself! Rant off.
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DOOM ON DICKEY....DICK MARCINKO. I love that man. Absolute RESPECT!

not towards you , but... You can point that gvt gun at my head all day long and demand that I suck your ....


IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN FRANCIS !!!

**** IT, BRING IT.

LETS ALL QUIT SOFT SELLING THE SHIT STICK.

YOU WANNA PLAY?
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Babies crying because there not getting their way? Every one does not agree with your views so your upset.? All your aggression and anger should NOT be directed at me. It SHOULD be directed at THOSE causing the problems, Have not heard any of that here, other than Va. citizens doing their part to stop this tyrant type legislation. This is NO GAME on my part, lives are at stake! I did not join TB2K to "stir the pot "so to speak but to get honest and truthful info on what's happening in Va and Iran period. Maybe you should think about RE UPPING or joining the CIA. They LOVE men of your caliber. Maybe SOME of you should look up the definition of SEDITION? We are still a nation of LAWS and the one mentioned is still in force. Personally I could care less about how you feel about me. My views and postings will still remain the same as I am sure will yours. Good luck on how you conduct yourself and what you decide to do!! If you don't like my posts, ignore them! Free speech is still in force and I am comfortable using it. As some one new and from the outside, you seem to be acting in the same manner as those your upset about i.e. the politicians. Mayby even Agent Pro what? How do you spell that? Love Dick M. by the way. Thanks for the spelling help. So many memories, so little time!!


one other area of contention I'll comment on. That is getting 4 or 4.5 MILLION citizens being organized in some rebellious manner. That's pie in the sky. I had trouble getting 20 people to agree to a retirement party for a friend! Logistics, command and control, communications, reinforcements, weapons, positioning etc. to mention a few. All I can say is WOW!!! You guys are good!!

now on to some news:


Presently there are over 100 proposed gun legislation bills in the Va. legislature concerning gun control! This push has me felling that a group/organization above the legislature/governor is controlling the legislation put forth. Maybe government or sea of far (another story about bubba Borda maybe another time?) Who knows, not me. It seems very orchestrated and very well designed. Some legislation now- No SLING SHOTS in the capitol and reporting requirements for lost/stolen guns. I'm hearing a lot of boating accidents are happening and my gun fell over board and was lost.

For those planning to attend Lobby day , there were some suggestions as to how to spot and handle the trouble makers that show up. The individual who posted this apparently was at another rally and used some of these methods: He said they usually throw things and you should notice their foot wear. They usually wear boots. (many people wear boots, so not really sure if this is an I.D. marker). Perp. should be surrounded and will usually try to run. Try to prevent this until LE arrives and makes an arrest. A rumor that is circulating is that bus loads of ANTIFA will show up wearing camo or the like. They are there only to cause disruption But I'm sure you know that! This whole thing is a perfect set up for disaster. I hope and pray that all goes well and no problems. Best to all who attend!!!

The Washington Standard-Oklahoma Federal Judge rules that trouble understanding police orders constitutes resistance and justifies the use of EXCESSIVE FORCE!! 4 officers aggressively and brutally handled his arrest. Video shows no resistance but he was still abused , tasered while cuffed and on that ground with the old knee in the back, became unconscious and transported to hospital. Take it for what It's worth. Other departments may resort to this and use it for justification of excessive force. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse with police???

one last thing and maybe you'll believe one of your own NC Renegade has many of the same views and observations as I do. Nice concise, informative essay. I think we had a mind meld!

It's siesta time. Is it getting hot in here or is it me?? I'm sure the boys will say it's me. But that's O.K. I'm used to it. Remember only what YOU personally know and don't try to be a mind reader of what others think or plan to do. Pretty please!!
 
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It's siesta time. Is it getting hot in here or is it me?? I'm sure the boys will say it's me. But that's O.K. I'm used to it. Remember only what YOU personally know and don't try to be a mind reader of what others think or plan to do. Pretty please!!
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As an alleged American citizen, which part of "wholly unconstitutional" are you so terribly afraid of? Your maternal tendencies are revealing in their liability - which is why some jobs are better suited for the men folk.

Got red meat?


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intothatgoodnight said:
As an alleged American citizen, what part of "wholly unconstitutional" are you so terribly afraid of? Your maternal tendencies are revealing in their liability - which is why some jobs are better suited for the men folk.


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He has NO understanding of Virginians! I am not speaking of come ins but Virginians!
 
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vestige said:
Most certainly.

I admired Patton. He was a pure, unadulterated ***hole (PAA) but...

he was OUR **hole and a patriotic one at that.

(side note: I once used that term here in a complimentary way also intended to be humorous and was punished for it. My mistake. Not all were raised like me.)
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And it's a damned shame more haven't been raised like you were!
 
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hd5574 said:
He has NO understanding of Virginians! I am not speaking of come ins but Virginians!
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. . . which likely has something important to do with the history-aware Scot-Irish stock of the region - the Scots, in particular, have a genetic aversion to all things "government" - comes from their couple of MILLENNIA, fighting various forms of government oppression on their Scottish soil - starting with the Roman occupation of Scotland, in particular.

Read about Hadrian's Wall, erected during the reign of the Roman emperor, Hadrian, with the intention of controlling the prickly Scot tribes of that area/era.

Born thorns.


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