intothatgoodnight
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BTW - did not see mentioned the fact that General Patton was a native Virginian.
intothegoodnight
GUNS/RLTD Virginia Dems' Gun-Grabbing Plans Are Already Backfiring
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intothegoodnight
20Gauge
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I just learned something new! Thanks!!
DazedandConfused
Veteran Member
2DEES Before you get your panty's all in a wad let me say this and be clear about it. NO ONE is going to lobby day in Richmond is going there to start a civil war ,WWIII or any other name you would call it.
Like myself many are going as a show of support for their brothers and sisters in VA as they try peacefully to try and stop the state Gov. from enacting unconstitutional laws not for themselves but for the generations to follow , will it have any effect NOPE but at least we tried. That being said if I have to help fight a tyrannical gov to restore our rights I can do so with a clear conscious that I did my part to keep the peace.
A civil war will be a blood bath for both sides and all those on the fence will suffer the most.
Call in all the spooks , SF types, LE you like, hell call in the modern US military they will be slaughtered and they know it!. you see all those forces are built on a firm command structure and are trained to fight one way and that's against another standing army. But that's a pipe dream for the power hungry commies in control for most if not all will not take up a fight to enforce a unconstitutional law.
The Democratic party is out of control in all states and not just on gun control. They are the ones that will be responsible for any WAR that starts rather they fire the first shot or not.
VA like the rest of the south has already been on the losing side of a war started by over reach of the Federal Gov. Folks in the south still remember Gen. Sherman march across the south and know what it means to lose. that will never happen again.
States like Kailf. NY and NJ sat on their ass and let their rights be taken away its stops here, one way or the other.
Pray loudly for peace but prepare for War.
Like myself many are going as a show of support for their brothers and sisters in VA as they try peacefully to try and stop the state Gov. from enacting unconstitutional laws not for themselves but for the generations to follow , will it have any effect NOPE but at least we tried. That being said if I have to help fight a tyrannical gov to restore our rights I can do so with a clear conscious that I did my part to keep the peace.
A civil war will be a blood bath for both sides and all those on the fence will suffer the most.
Call in all the spooks , SF types, LE you like, hell call in the modern US military they will be slaughtered and they know it!. you see all those forces are built on a firm command structure and are trained to fight one way and that's against another standing army. But that's a pipe dream for the power hungry commies in control for most if not all will not take up a fight to enforce a unconstitutional law.
The Democratic party is out of control in all states and not just on gun control. They are the ones that will be responsible for any WAR that starts rather they fire the first shot or not.
VA like the rest of the south has already been on the losing side of a war started by over reach of the Federal Gov. Folks in the south still remember Gen. Sherman march across the south and know what it means to lose. that will never happen again.
States like Kailf. NY and NJ sat on their ass and let their rights be taken away its stops here, one way or the other.
Pray loudly for peace but prepare for War.
Don't insult women or maternal tendencies like that! I'm a woman, a mother and a grandmother, and everything he writes offends me.
Summerthyme
Ping Jockey
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Having family history research on my own lineage I will echo the above from intothatgoodnight Presbyterian Scots-Irish, or Ulster Scots, as the call themselves are a totally different, unique breed of people who populated, and now their descendants populate, the backbone of the Appalachians from Pennsylvania through to the Carolinas, Tennessee, Georgia, Kentucky, and eastern Ohio. The mountains of Virginia and West ‘By God’ Virginia hold the staunchest remnants of the Ulster-Scots traditions.
These folk will do what they think is necessary. It’s in their blood and heritage. Much like the Over the Mountain Men who took care of business when Ferguson threatened to burn them out by sword and fire. They came together, met Ferguson on King’s Mountain, and when done cleaned their weapons, said their goodbyes, and marched back over the mountains returning to their farms and families.
Don’t know what’s going to happen when the Orcs take control and push their agenda, none of us do, but I do know the descendants of the Ulster-Scots will say their piece in one form or another.
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intothatgoodnight
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Hang in there, ST - we all know where you stand, as an informed and capable woman - it is those who are snowflakes - women AND men - that are a good bit of the problem, here, and part of the reason WHY we find ourselves in the anti-constitutional pickle that we do.
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desertvet2
Veteran Member
Some hear the fighting and run towards it to help, some hear the fighting and run from it to avoid the danger ...
And some hear the fighting and pass judgement on all parties Involved, when taking no concrete position of their own.
Most folks don't want to ever have to fight...
But if somebody is trying to stuff you in their trunk for a destination and fate unknown...I think it's best to throw off your fears and fight to kill the sumbitch trying the do the stuffing...
Ymmv
And some hear the fighting and pass judgement on all parties Involved, when taking no concrete position of their own.
Most folks don't want to ever have to fight...
But if somebody is trying to stuff you in their trunk for a destination and fate unknown...I think it's best to throw off your fears and fight to kill the sumbitch trying the do the stuffing...
Ymmv
homecanner1
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Some faces from Raleigh we should BOLO in the crowd as we watch Richmond on the 20th
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homecanner1
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Housecarl said
There was a long-standing rumor back from the 1980s that in the event of a full-scale nuclear exchange with the USSR, we would send a missile of our own at Miami.
Add in LA, San Fran, Sacremento, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Detroit, Boston, NYC, Memphis, Gary IN, Newark, El Paso, Madison WI (sorry HC1) <------
yeah and I am no longer in Madtown, anticipated said potentials and am removed from it, did my 5 yr stint and done done done! lol
Doomer Doug is still in harms way though.
There was a long-standing rumor back from the 1980s that in the event of a full-scale nuclear exchange with the USSR, we would send a missile of our own at Miami.
Add in LA, San Fran, Sacremento, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Detroit, Boston, NYC, Memphis, Gary IN, Newark, El Paso, Madison WI (sorry HC1) <------yeah and I am no longer in Madtown, anticipated said potentials and am removed from it, did my 5 yr stint and done done done! lol
Doomer Doug is still in harms way though.
Profit of Doom
Dismember
Never want to be the stuffee.
Thank you! As a mod, I thought better of posting that, but you literally took the words from my keyboard..
Summerthyme
MinnesotaSmith
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Actually, I said that. Was wondering if you'd spot that.Housecarl said
There was a long-standing rumor back from the 1980s that in the event of a full-scale nuclear exchange with the USSR, we would send a missile of our own at Miami.
yeah and I am no longer in Madtown, anticipated said potentials and am removed from it, did my 5 yr stint and done done done! lol
Doomer Doug is still in harms way though.
Glad you're out of that crazy nonAmerican place.Profit of Doom
Dismember
Better put some handrails on those steps. Don’t want anyone getting hurt!
Raggedyman
Res ipsa loquitur
LAUNCHING PAD TO HELL - COMMIE SCUM POLITICIANS and SNOFLAKES WELCOME ABOARD
Attention Management!
See the above?
Long ago when Summer was recruited I said that we had our own Poke Sallet Annie and management took her away from us.
Shame shame.
Such is life. (Woe is us)
Yes I found that out today. I think that is what I will have to do. A pistol is what I need for home security. Thank you.
Sure It's all unconstitutional. But the SANE approach is the way Va. is handling it now. A real man uses restraint! I am interested in how this logical approach turns out. Unfortunately there are NUTS on both sides wanting to start somethig. I hope for all our sake that it remains peaceful. Some not all may miss the PARTY, that they so urgently want to attend, even before it starts, due to their actions. Red meat causes cancer and you know the end result of that!
Two things I'm personally looking for at the Jan. 20th lobby day. One is how it all turns out and one thing the LE and feds, are sure to be looking at. But I will wait until after this event to comment. I wish you well in whatever you decide.
Old Reliable
Veteran Member
Everyone should learn about what happened at King's Mountain.
Trail of History - The Battle of Kings Mountain
Run Time 26:15 M
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ssrGbfZ-Sw&t=494s
The Battle of Kings Mountain: Trail of History explores the Revolutionary War Battle of Kings Mountain and meets the people protecting the sacred battleground.
Trail of History - The Battle of Kings Mountain
Run Time 26:15 M
The Battle of Kings Mountain: Trail of History explores the Revolutionary War Battle of Kings Mountain and meets the people protecting the sacred battleground.
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money? whats that?
Maybe I missed it, and admit I haven't followed this thread too closely but, has anyone stopped to consider what is going to happen in D.C. when the shooting starts? I can hear the left screaming now about how these people standing up for their rights and the Constitution are proof that the right has gone over the edge and ALL weapons nationwide simply MUST be confiscated to insure the safety of all Americans. Oh yes, I almost forgot. It's all Pres. Trump's fault so he has to be removed from office.
DazedandConfused
Veteran Member
The Left is going to scream no matter what happens. As far as removing Trump from office they have been trying to do that since day one by the time his next term is over they'll have the screaming shits.
Ping Jockey
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Most of the leaders of the OverMountain men were Ulster-Scot Presbyterian ministers or elders. Texas toilet paper all of them.
God Bless you!!!
You might want to check out https:www.reddit.com/r/VAGuns/. It appears the Dirty Tricks have started. They are doing every thing to pi** you off. Another story from Admiral Rickover who personally interviewed all his officers. Officer enters room and Rick. says "You've got 15 seconds to pi** me off. Officer thinks and clears his desk of every item on it and throws it on the floor. Then starts to clear his book shelves. At that point Rick. jumps up and says "You did it' You did it." What a commander and leader!! I'll add, I Thought our northern states were bad with our leadership. Man you have us beat head over heels in that area. Where did they find these guys in a psycho ward. You really have a struggle on your hands. I hope cooler heads prevail. Good luck an God Bless!!!
DazedandConfused
Veteran Member
The Dem's just can't help themselves, they're power hungry. Its all about control and not about saving lives. If their agenda was about saving lives and really wanted to make a difference Abortion would be outlawed.
But we already know the Guvna's stance on that.
But we already know the Guvna's stance on that.
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Cacheman
Ultra MAGA!
Rains in the forecast for Tuesday. They'll experience the law of unintended consequences. Wonder how long this will last.....
View: https://twitter.com/Hirschfeld4VA/status/1216713050209837057?s=20
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has anyone stopped to consider what is going to happen in D.C. when the shooting starts?
I for one will get some important questions answered about President Trump's administration should things be allowed to go so far as open rebellion in the ZUSA without some form of Federal intervention, be it positive or negative so far as free Americans are concerned.
YMMV of course.
Personally I am of an age where ALL my targets have to be self-designating, I am not able to go looking for trouble any more.
I for one will get some important questions answered about President Trump's administration should things be allowed to go so far as open rebellion in the ZUSA without some form of Federal intervention, be it positive or negative so far as free Americans are concerned.
YMMV of course.
Personally I am of an age where ALL my targets have to be self-designating, I am not able to go looking for trouble any more.
I don't think they care how many people show up, or protest, they've made up their minds to turn VA into another CA, The only hope is to begin a recall process, the only thing that scares a politician is the risk of losing their office. Target only a few, it should get easy to get enough signatures to force a recall vote.
Randy in Arizona
Senior Member
Why go to the time, expense and effort to build gallows?
Virginia still has plenty of trees!
Local hardware store for the rope.
BONUS!! The rope is recyclable!
520
Virginia still has plenty of trees!
Local hardware store for the rope.
BONUS!! The rope is recyclable!
520
DazedandConfused
Veteran Member
Putting America back to work again, Its a shovel ready job!!
Posted for fair use.....
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Loose Canons
Virginia’s Giddy Gun Controllers
Will next Monday’s big protests in Richmond come too late?
by Jed Babbin
January 13, 2020, 12:06 AM
Calling the state Legislature into session last Wednesday, Gov. Ralph Northam could not have been more elated. His Democrats have taken over the state Legislature and are giddily preparing to exercise every ounce of their newfound powers.
Northam’s expansive legislative agenda includes passage of the long-dead Equal Rights Amendment (the deadline for ratification expired in 1982), decriminalization of marijuana, big spending on “save the planet” environmental nonsense, further liberalization of abortion laws, and, of course, far-reaching strict gun controls.
Today, the Virginia Senate Judiciary Committee will begin consideration of a host of gun-control bills. One week from today, groups such as the National Rifle Association and the Virginia Civilian Defense League are planning a mass demonstration against the bills. Northam and the Dems will try to make these protests moot by getting their legislation passed quickly.
Among the bills being considered are requirements for background checks on all firearms sales, red flag laws, a one-a-month limit on purchasing pistols, closing the “gun show loophole,” and bans on possession of firearms in state buildings and parks. And that’s not the half of it.
At Northam’s urging, new bills — HB 961 is the prototype — were introduced. It is less obviously unconstitutional but more far-reaching (and in some ways worse) than its predecessors.
HB 961 retains the same definitions of “assault weapons” that SB 16 had. The definition includes every semi-automatic firearm:
The bill makes it illegal to manufacture or sell any “assault” firearms in the state. It also makes it legal to possess such weapons but only if they are registered with the state police, and only when they are possessed in your home, on your land, with a parent’s permission, or with written permission of the landowner.
It permits the use of such registered weapons while hunting or at a shooting range (or going to or from a such a venue if they are unloaded).
The bill would make it legal until January 2021 for a person to possess such firearms so that they have time to either register and obtain a permit from the state police for them or move them out of the state.
Despite the fact that suppressors (the bill uses the term “silencers”) are legal if registered with the federal government, they are outlawed entirely.
Registration is, of course, a first step that is necessary to confiscation. But it is also a way the Dems are attempting to make HB 916 constitutional.
One part of SB 16 that didn’t — yet — make it into HB 961 is a total ban not on the weapons themselves, but on possessing, selling, or transferring any rifle, pistol, or shotgun magazine capable of holding more than 10 rounds. We should expect that whatever bill or bills pass the state Legislature will contain the magazine ban.
At this writing, 90 of Virginia’s 95 counties, as well as dozens of cities, towns, and other jurisdictions, have declared themselves “Second Amendment Sanctuaries.” Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring insists that these declarations have no effect.
The declarations have, at least, one effect: they indicate the strong opposition to the new laws by a majority of Virginia’s citizens. That should be enough to persuade the state assembly to at least moderate the bills they are going to pass, but it won’t. Neither will the mass demonstrations against them, which are going to be held next Monday.
Thousands of Virginians are expected to attend the January 20 demonstrations, which are being sponsored by the National Rifle Association and the Virginia Civilian Defense League. The VCDL is busing people in from about 16 parts of the state and has organized a list of people who will speak to the demonstrators.
As much as the NRA and the VCDL want to have a peaceful demonstration, others may intend to cause violence that can be blamed on the otherwise-peaceful demonstrators.
The NRA’s and VCDL’s plans are well advertised and thus already known to groups such as “Antifa,” the fascist thugs who have attacked peaceful demonstrators across the country. For example, they attacked demonstrators in Portland, Oregon, last July causing a riot in which eight people were injured.
Antifa, and groups like them, can turn the best-laid plans for a peaceful demonstration on January 20 into a violent confrontation. They will carefully attempt to stage their own violence in a way that can be blamed on the pro-gun demonstrators.
If fighting breaks out — especially if there is gunfire — the media will eat it up, blaming the NRA and VCDL and blasting the story nationwide before the facts come out. If that happens — and the odds are very good that it will — the Dems in Richmond will claim it to be justification for all their gun-control bills. The bills will pass even more quickly than they would have otherwise, and Northam will happily sign them into law.
On Friday, I spoke to a very good friend who has a business training our police and armed services (even special operations troops) in the tactical use of firearms. He has a federal firearms license, and the weapons he uses in his business are, to the extent the law requires, already registered with the federal government. He pays the necessary fees on those weapons to retain the licenses and permits he has.
He believes that the restrictions the Richmond Dems plan to pass will override his federal permits and cause him to move his business and his family to another state.
The disarming of America continues. The Richmond Dems will do their best to emulate Chicago, New York City, California, and other jurisdictions that have so severely restricted their citizens’ Second Amendment rights that only police and criminals can easily get guns.
As I wrote last month, the courts are our only hope that the new laws will be tossed out as unconstitutional. I wouldn’t bet a nickel that they will be.
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Virginia’s Giddy Gun Controllers - The American Spectator | USA News and PoliticsThe American Spectator | USA News and Politics
Calling the state Legislature into session last Wednesday, Gov. Ralph Northam could not have been more elated. His Democrats have...
spectator.org
Loose Canons
Virginia’s Giddy Gun Controllers
Will next Monday’s big protests in Richmond come too late?
by Jed Babbin
January 13, 2020, 12:06 AM
Calling the state Legislature into session last Wednesday, Gov. Ralph Northam could not have been more elated. His Democrats have taken over the state Legislature and are giddily preparing to exercise every ounce of their newfound powers.
Northam’s expansive legislative agenda includes passage of the long-dead Equal Rights Amendment (the deadline for ratification expired in 1982), decriminalization of marijuana, big spending on “save the planet” environmental nonsense, further liberalization of abortion laws, and, of course, far-reaching strict gun controls.
Today, the Virginia Senate Judiciary Committee will begin consideration of a host of gun-control bills. One week from today, groups such as the National Rifle Association and the Virginia Civilian Defense League are planning a mass demonstration against the bills. Northam and the Dems will try to make these protests moot by getting their legislation passed quickly.
Among the bills being considered are requirements for background checks on all firearms sales, red flag laws, a one-a-month limit on purchasing pistols, closing the “gun show loophole,” and bans on possession of firearms in state buildings and parks. And that’s not the half of it.
Last month, I wrote about SB 16, which had been filed by Sen. Dick Saslaw in preparation for the 2020 legislative session. SB 16 was the most radical of bills (at least at that point). As I explained it would outlaw the possession of all “assault weapons,” a class of rifles, pistols and shotguns which are among the most-purchased in the nation and have been employed for hunting, target shooting, and home defense. It was obviously unconstitutional.At Northam’s urging, new bills — HB 961 is the prototype — were introduced. It is less obviously unconstitutional but more far-reaching (and in some ways worse) than its predecessors.
HB 961 retains the same definitions of “assault weapons” that SB 16 had. The definition includes every semi-automatic firearm:
- With a fixed magazine having the capacity of more than 10 rounds;
- Rifles, pistols and shotguns that have
HB 916 also includes parts that can be used to build “assault weapons” and shotguns with revolving cylinder magazines.
The bill makes it illegal to manufacture or sell any “assault” firearms in the state. It also makes it legal to possess such weapons but only if they are registered with the state police, and only when they are possessed in your home, on your land, with a parent’s permission, or with written permission of the landowner.
It permits the use of such registered weapons while hunting or at a shooting range (or going to or from a such a venue if they are unloaded).
The bill also exempts members of the armed forces carrying out their duties.The bill would make it legal until January 2021 for a person to possess such firearms so that they have time to either register and obtain a permit from the state police for them or move them out of the state.
Despite the fact that suppressors (the bill uses the term “silencers”) are legal if registered with the federal government, they are outlawed entirely.
Registration is, of course, a first step that is necessary to confiscation. But it is also a way the Dems are attempting to make HB 916 constitutional.
One part of SB 16 that didn’t — yet — make it into HB 961 is a total ban not on the weapons themselves, but on possessing, selling, or transferring any rifle, pistol, or shotgun magazine capable of holding more than 10 rounds. We should expect that whatever bill or bills pass the state Legislature will contain the magazine ban.
At this writing, 90 of Virginia’s 95 counties, as well as dozens of cities, towns, and other jurisdictions, have declared themselves “Second Amendment Sanctuaries.” Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring insists that these declarations have no effect.
The declarations have, at least, one effect: they indicate the strong opposition to the new laws by a majority of Virginia’s citizens. That should be enough to persuade the state assembly to at least moderate the bills they are going to pass, but it won’t. Neither will the mass demonstrations against them, which are going to be held next Monday.
Thousands of Virginians are expected to attend the January 20 demonstrations, which are being sponsored by the National Rifle Association and the Virginia Civilian Defense League. The VCDL is busing people in from about 16 parts of the state and has organized a list of people who will speak to the demonstrators.
As much as the NRA and the VCDL want to have a peaceful demonstration, others may intend to cause violence that can be blamed on the otherwise-peaceful demonstrators.
The NRA’s and VCDL’s plans are well advertised and thus already known to groups such as “Antifa,” the fascist thugs who have attacked peaceful demonstrators across the country. For example, they attacked demonstrators in Portland, Oregon, last July causing a riot in which eight people were injured.
Antifa, and groups like them, can turn the best-laid plans for a peaceful demonstration on January 20 into a violent confrontation. They will carefully attempt to stage their own violence in a way that can be blamed on the pro-gun demonstrators.
If fighting breaks out — especially if there is gunfire — the media will eat it up, blaming the NRA and VCDL and blasting the story nationwide before the facts come out. If that happens — and the odds are very good that it will — the Dems in Richmond will claim it to be justification for all their gun-control bills. The bills will pass even more quickly than they would have otherwise, and Northam will happily sign them into law.
On Friday, I spoke to a very good friend who has a business training our police and armed services (even special operations troops) in the tactical use of firearms. He has a federal firearms license, and the weapons he uses in his business are, to the extent the law requires, already registered with the federal government. He pays the necessary fees on those weapons to retain the licenses and permits he has.
He believes that the restrictions the Richmond Dems plan to pass will override his federal permits and cause him to move his business and his family to another state.
The disarming of America continues. The Richmond Dems will do their best to emulate Chicago, New York City, California, and other jurisdictions that have so severely restricted their citizens’ Second Amendment rights that only police and criminals can easily get guns.
As I wrote last month, the courts are our only hope that the new laws will be tossed out as unconstitutional. I wouldn’t bet a nickel that they will be.
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Very good video with good tactics. A large group of patriots with a common goal, but each his own leader. Basically surround the enemy and go for it with each man finding his own spot to shoot from, and using rifles that outdistanced the brits. 1000 lone wolves. It may come to this.
vector7
Dot Collector
Dems already working to make it more difficult to recall politicians. ^^^
Could it turn into a trap with the wrong actors? vvv
THE 2020 VIRGINIA SHOWDOWN
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Better read this:
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