GUNS/RLTD Virginia governor declares state of emergency following militia threats over gun reforms

desertvet2

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The state of emergency was called so they can bring In The feds, and possibly some unit's of the military...understandable. considering the wackos that will be drawn to raise a ruckus.

I still can't wrap my head around why these ****ers don't seem to understand, if you leave the law abiding gun owners Alone, they are an asset in the event of invasion by an outside or Infiltrated group, or nation state.

Declaring them to be felons because you say they have to give up their rights and they tell you to eat shit and die....sounds like the one is allready here.
 
The state of emergency was called so they can bring In The feds, and possibly some unit's of the military...understandable. considering the wackos that will be drawn to raise a ruckus.

I still can't wrap my head around why these ****ers don't seem to understand, if you leave the law abiding gun owners Alone, they are an asset in the event of invasion by an outside or Infiltrated group, or nation state.

Declaring them to be felons because you say they have to give up their rights and they tell you to eat shit and die....sounds like the one is allready here.
Per bolded - you have already answered your question - the anti-constitutional communist puppets in Richmond ARE THE ENEMY, INSIDE THE GATES - they are no more going to "leave the law abiding gun owners alone" than the Axis powers were going to leave the Allies "alone" during WWII.

They ARE THE ENEMY.


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AlfaMan

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Help an old man out please.
What is a stingray ?
A phony cellphone tower. It intercepts any calls within the immediate area so the cops can listen in. From the news reports here it looks like two may already be on on site. Facial recognition is going to be run through the metal detector checkpoints.
 

Mr. Peabody

Veteran Member
Per bolded - you have already answered your question - the anti-constitutional communist puppets in Richmond ARE THE ENEMY, INSIDE THE GATES - they are no more going to "leave the law abiding gun owners alone" than the Axis powers were going to leave the Allies "alone" during WWII.

They ARE THE ENEMY.


intothegoodnight
They are indeed the enemy to the Constitution. They have considered us "deplorables" that cling to he Constitution as their enemy for years. They want us gone, out of their way...dead. They DO understand completely who we are and they are following their published manifesto. They can't leave us alone because that manifesto demands that anyone that stands in their way must be destroyed. This is the same thing as "the muslims have declared war on us but we haven't declared war on them".
 

Watchman2

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They wacko's will be the MS13 Antifa (which is the commies on the streets) and from the commie provocatiers of the feds themselves..... the communist element of the feds that is...….




The state of emergency was called so they can bring In The feds, and possibly some unit's of the military...understandable. considering the wackos that will be drawn to raise a ruckus.

I still can't wrap my head around why these ****ers don't seem to understand, if you leave the law abiding gun owners Alone, they are an asset in the event of invasion by an outside or Infiltrated group, or nation state.

Declaring them to be felons because you say they have to give up their rights and they tell you to eat shit and die....sounds like the one is allready here.
 

Watchman2

Veteran Member
Until I see the "Machine Gun" for myself... I don't believe them...…. you know... the fully auto semi matic kind of thing that they like to write...…..


FBI nabs three alleged neo-Nazis with Machine Gun ahead of Virginia Gun Rally

Reuters January 16, 2020
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FBI nabs three alleged neo-Nazis with machine gun ahead of Virginia gun rally

Former Canadian military reservist Patrik Jordan Mathews poses in an undated picture provided by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police

(Reuters) - The FBI has arrested three suspected members of a neo-Nazi group who had a machine gun and hopes of sparking a U.S. race war at a planned gun-rights rally in Virginia that is expected to draw thousands of people, officials said on Thursday.

Among those arrested were a former cavalry scout in the U.S. Army and a Canadian citizen who was illegally in the United States and was a combat engineer in the Canadian Army Reserve.

The arrests came the day after Virginia Governor Ralph Northam declared a state of emergency banning any weapons around the grounds of the state capitol in Richmond, saying investigators had seen groups making threats of violence.

The FBI and the Department of Homeland Security have been sharply criticized for not focusing enough on the threat of far-right extremism following a spate of attacks on synagogues and a 2017 white-supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. Heads of both of those agencies have said in recent months that they were taking the threat more seriously.

Several thousand gun rights supporters are planning a large rally in Richmond, Virginia's capital, on Monday in response to the newly Democratic-controlled state legislature's push to stiffen gun laws.

Virginia, where Democrats took control of the legislature by promising stronger gun laws, has become the latest focal point for the contentious American debate around the right to bear arms. Many gun-rights groups contend the U.S. Constitution guarantees their ability to possess any firearm. Those opposed say gun laws would help lessen the number of people killed by guns each year.

According to a criminal complaint filed before the U.S. District Court for Maryland, the men arrested were Brian Mark Lemley Jr., who previously was in the U.S. Army; Patrik Jordan Mathews, a former Canadian military reservist; and William Garfield Bilbrough.

They are accused of interstate commerce of weapons, harboring illegal aliens, an alien in possession of a firearm and ammunition, and aiding and abetting. The FBI also said in the court filing that the men had attempted to manufacture DMT, a chemical resembling the structure of psilocybin in psychedelic mushrooms and an illegal drug under federal law.

While federal authorities can bring criminal terrorism charges against those suspected of working on behalf of foreign extremist groups like al Qaeda, they lack those tools when pursuing those affiliated with domestic extremist groups, whose views are protected by the free-speech clause of the U.S. Constitution.

The FBI said in the court filing that the three are members of the neo-Nazi group The Base. The FBI said in the court document that it had monitored encrypted chats among the group's members, in which they discussed creating a white ethno-state and carrying out acts of violence against minorities.
The men were in possession what appeared to be a fully automatic rifle, according to an FBI agent who watched the men fire the weapon at a gun range.

Shortly after firing the weapon on Jan. 2 at a Maryland gun range, Lemley told Mathews, "Oh, oops, it looks like I accidentally made a machine gun," according to the court document. The men were seen in possession of other guns, but the details were not included in the filing.

Lemley and Mathews lived together in Delaware, while Bilbrough resided in Maryland. Mathews illegally crossed over the border into the United States in August, according to the court document.

(Reporting by Brad Brooks in Austin, Texas, Mark Hosenball and Andy Sullivan in Washington and Gabriella Borter in New York; Editing by Scott Malone and Jonathan Oatis)

We have received credible intelligence from our law enforcement agencies of threats of violence surrounding the demonstration planned for Monday, January 20. This includes extremist rhetoric similar to what has been seen before major incidents, such as Charlottesville in 2017.

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Fears of Charlottesville repeat as three neo-nazis - including Canadian reservist - arrested ahead of Virginia gun rights rally

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The Independent 16 January 2020

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The FBI has arrested three alleged members of a neo-nazi hate group who were reportedly anticipating a possible race war and planning to bring firearms to a major guns rights demonstration next week in Virginia.

The three men — one of whom previously served as a trained combat engineer and explosives expert in the Canadian Army before his links to white supremacy emerged — were arrested in Maryland on Thursday morning.

Patrik Jordan Mathews, the 27-year-old former Canadian reservist and a main recruiter for the neo-nazi group, had reportedly entered the United States illegally ahead of the Virginia Citizens Defence League annual Lobby Day demonstrations set for Monday.

Brian M Lemley Jr, a 33-year-old former cavalry soldier in the US Army, was also one of the three men arrested by officials this week, along with 19-year-old William G Bilbrough. All three suspected members of the hate group known as "The Base" were expected to appear in federal court on Thursday afternoon.

The annual Lobby Day demonstrations have gained national attention by both proponents of the Second Amendment and gun control activists after Virginia’s General Assembly advanced four sweeping gun control bills, setting the stage for a potentially contentious showdown between both sides of the ideological divide.

Virginia Governor Ralph Northam has since declared a state of emergency and temporarily banned firearms from Capitol grounds, where the demonstrations are set to take place.

Philip Van Cleave, president of the Virginia Civil Rights Defence League, told The Independent in an interview the group’s lawyers are looking into whether the governor had the legal authority to temporarily ban firearms in a state known for its lax open carry laws.

“First of all, we don’t think it’s legal”, Mr Van Cleave said about the temporary ban. “We don’t think he has the power to do what he’s doing.”

The guns rights group has estimated as many as 100,000 demonstrators could flock to the city on Martin Luther King day for the demonstrations, and has scheduled charter buses throughout the state for its members hoping to attend the event.

In announcing the state of emergency, Mr Northam said in a statement there was credible evidence that “militia groups and hate groups, some from out of state, plan to come to the Capitol to disrupt our democratic process with acts of violence”.

“We have received credible intelligence from our law enforcement agencies of threats of violence surrounding the demonstration planned for Monday, January 20”, the governor wrote on Twitter.
We have received credible intelligence from our law enforcement agencies of threats of violence surrounding the demonstration planned for Monday, January 20. This includes extremist rhetoric similar to what has been seen before major incidents, such as Charlottesville in 2017.​
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He added: “This includes extremist rhetoric similar to what has been seen before major incidents, such as Charlottesville in 2017.”

The arrest of the three suspected neo-Nazis planning to attend Lobby Day was in part the result of an extensive investigation the FBI was conducting into The Base, according to the New York Times.


Flashback:
Virginia Police Departments Equipped With Used Military Equipment


By Rachel DePompa | May 22, 2014 at 2:49 AM EDT - Updated July 2 at 10:20 AM

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CAROLINE, VA (WWBT) - Virginia police are quietly stocking up on millions of dollars in leftover military equipment.

Agencies around the Commonwealth have been doing this for the better part of two decades.

For instance, we found the predecessor to the military's modern day Mine Resistant Armored Vehicle also known as a MRAP. It's often used to transport soldiers and protect them from bombs. It's 24 feet across and weighs 25,000 pounds and you might see it on the streets of Caroline County.

"It didn't cost our taxpayers anything," said Caroline County Sheriff Tony Lippa.

How's that possible? They got it through what's called the military's 1033 program.

It's first come, first served. The military gives away its unwanted or out of commission items to local police....



Virginia 20th Militia Rally (9:37)
View: https://youtu.be/GhHM9sFMy1Y


BREAKING: Virginia Declares State of Emergency (4:35)
View: https://youtu.be/g6HpCmOoIng
 

Slydersan

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So the 3 "neo-Nazis" that were arrested are members of "The Base". Weird coincidence that "Al Qaeda" translates to "the base"...and it was supposed set up by certain rogue agencies of our government. And did you all catch the part in the article where it said they were monitoring "ENCRYPTED chat rooms." Let that one sink in. I smell a whole bunch of government moles involved in this whole thing.
 

Altura Ct.

Veteran Member
Virginia County Supervisors Pull Gun Control Support After Public Backlash

Prince William County supervisors pulled a resolution in support of more firearm laws after county residents flooded their board meeting Tuesday with opposition to gun control.

The Prince William Times reports that the resolution was initially discussed by the previous board of supervisors, which was Republican-controlled, and which passed a “Constitutional County” declaration December 10, 2019.

Democrat Board Chair Ann Wheeler proposed Resolution 10A for the new board, and the matter was discussed on January 7, 2020, but a vote on the matter was suspended amid public backlash.

The vote was rescheduled for January 21, 2020, only to be abruptly canceled on January 14, 2020, with the resolution tabled “indefinitely.”

The resolution would have put the county on record in support of red flag laws, criminalization of private gun sales via universal background checks, and penalties for gun storage violations, among other things.

Democrat lawmakers at the state level are currently pushing a war on guns that includes licensing for AR-15 owners; the creation of a database of said owners; and a ban on “high capacity” magazines, suppressors, and certain aftermarket triggers.

On January 15, 2020, Gov. Ralph Northam (D) temporarily banned gun possession on State Capitol grounds.

 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
And did you all catch the part in the article where it said they were monitoring "ENCRYPTED chat rooms." Let that one sink in.

What? You don't think that average folks, on EITHER side of the "line" can't use encrypted versions of IRC and half a dozen OTHER chat services???

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Start here and pick yer flavor. and many of these do NOT include TOR capabilities which opens up a HUGE new range of flavors.

 

danielboon

TB Fanatic
from the middle of the country, some of the people will start fighting against the government. The government will be busy with internal problems. Then from the ocean, from Cuba, Nicaragua, Mexico,,.." (He told me two other countries, but I didn't remember what they were.) "...they will bomb the nuclear warehouses. When they explode, America will burn!" " Dumitri duduman" http://xf.timebomb2000.com/xf/index.php?threads/the-message-for-america-dumitru-duduman.544367/
 

Slydersan

Veteran Member
What? You don't think that average folks, on EITHER side of the "line" can't use encrypted versions of IRC and half a dozen OTHER chat services???

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Start here and pick yer flavor. and many of these do NOT include TOR capabilities which opens up a HUGE new range of flavors.



No, you missed my point (or I maybe I wasn't clear). It's not that these guys are using encrypted comms. It's that the feds are already aware of them and MONITORING them.
 

Slydersan

Veteran Member
Oh and Glenn Beck and the host of "Cam and Company" were talking about this whole VA situation this morning. Both VERY pro-gun and worried about where the VA gov is headed and the effects on the rest of the country.
 

homecanner1

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Matt shows pics from some recon last night and the fencing they put in place, its a veritable maze of kettling they will face, with cutoffs and paddocks if they get funneled into their rabbit enclosure at 9:42 on the video

Matt Bracken on what to expect on Monday,

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7wns8LlCio&app=desktop

Boone posted this on the other Virginia thread 18 minutes ago

View: https://imgur.com/a/34NzCbk

Matt suggests on video above, everyone carry wire cutters so they don't get herded into piles in cul de sacs of fencing. And also security appointed to monitor the chartered buses in the parking areas so the buses are not vandalized, tires slashed by antifa.
 
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CaryC

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Thought this was a good article, but didn't think it good enough for it's own thread. More in the way of commentary.

There's an ad for selling gold at the end of the article, which I cut out. Don't know if this qualifies as some the articles mentioned that something special was to be done.


The Virginia Gun Rights Conflict: Best And Worst Case Scenarios

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In my article 'Trump Impeachment And The Civil War Scenario', I warned that conservatives and leftists are being pushed to the brink of a shooting war using various methods of social manipulation and 4th Gen warfare, and that this conflict, if dictated by gatekeepers of the false Left/Right paradigm, would only benefit establishment elites in the long run. Internal division among the public is designed to keep us at each other's throats while losing focus on the real enemies.
Hard line democrats and the social justice cult are merely a symptom of the disease, they are not the source of the disease. However, I also acknowledge that the rift between conservatives and the political left has become so extreme that reconciliation is almost impossible. War might be unavoidable, and the globalists love it. If they can pretend like they had nothing to do with creating tensions, and if conservatives are so blinded by anger against Democrats that they refuse to admit that some of their own political leaders (including Trump) have been co-opted, the elites win.

The danger in any civil war is that BOTH sides end up being manipulated and controlled, and that the situation is maneuvered towards an outcome that only serves the interests of a select few.

Virginia may be a test bed, a trial run for a nationwide conflagration, and if it does hit a point where state officials compel a violent response from the citizenry, then it is important that liberty advocates remain vigilant and steer clear of incompetent or controlled leaders. It is also important that they remember there is a much larger agenda at play here; the Democrats may be useful idiots fueling that agenda, but most of them are oblivious to their role. Our fight is not with the Democrats, our fight is with the globalists that influence them; the same globalists that are trying to influence us.
First and foremost we have to address the propaganda, because all wars begin first in the public consciousness. The current situation in Virginia remains a battle of political rhetoric and “fluid” interpretations of the law. Here are the arguments I've seen from the political left so far on the issue of 2nd Amendment Sanctuaries:

Leftists argue that sanctuary county resolutions are “purely symbolic” and have no force of law behind them.
This is a rather naive (perhaps deliberately naive) position, as it ignores the fundamentals. The force of law is either compelled by conscience, or it is compelled by violence. The law itself is meaningless without these two factors. If groups of citizens choose not to follow a law because they find it morally reprehensible, there is nothing the state can do except try to frighten them into compliance with the threat of violence. The concept of a law by itself has no energy, and claiming that something is “right” because it is now “law” is not a valid argument.

In the case of anti-gun laws in Virginia, the VAST majority of counties in the state and the people in those counties have made it clear that they will not comply. The leftists have completely ignored this fact by simply saying “They have to comply because the law says so...” This is the type of attitude that leads to war.

Leftists argue that state laws supersede county authority and there is no legal standing for sanctuary resolutions.
The problem with this argument is that it ignores the fact that constitutional protections provided by the Bill of Rights supersede ALL other laws. It does not matter if attempts are being made by state governments or the federal government to degrade constitutional rights, the people are empowered to refuse and fight against ANY laws which violate constitutional rights.

For example, Democrats often bring up the history of Jim Crow Laws as a rationale for Federal intervention in the legal affairs of states. Jim Crow laws were segregation laws passed by state governments, and in many cases there was resistance on a public level to these laws. Democrats like to cite Jim Crow laws whenever conservatives argue for states rights and 10th Amendment nullification of unconstitutional federal laws. They have conveniently memory-holed the issue whenever state laws are working in favor of their agenda.

The bottom line is this: The constitution and Bill of Rights take precedence over all other laws in the US, and if Democrats are going to use legal technicality as their foundation for draconian gun control measures, then they really have no leg to stand on. If their argument is that citizens and counties have no legal right to nullify state laws no matter how immoral or unconstitutional, then what would they say if a state government brought back Jim Crow, or legalized slavery? Virginia's gun control efforts are no different.

Leftists assert that new laws in Virginia are “standard” because similar laws have been passed in other states.
This is the totalitarian tip-toe at work. Once an unconstitutional law is passed in California, New York or Illinois, this therefore means that the laws have become “standard” and are thus acceptable.

An unconstitutional law is an unconstitutional law. It does not matter how many states pass such a law and proclaim it normal or standard. The people of Virginia have announced en masse that they have no intention of following new gun control laws. The people have spoken, over 90% of counties in Virginia have passed 2nd Amendment resolutions with the support of the citizenry. Democrats gaining seats in an election does not give them the power to deny constitutional rights to Virginians.

Beyond this, the Virginia laws are nowhere near standard. Clearly, Virginia is being used as a testing ground for Red Flag laws in particular, which are the most concerning. Red Flag laws allow gun confiscation without due process based on ambiguous accusations backed often by zero evidence; it is prosecution and punishment without representation or defense. Red Flag gun laws are a means by which the state can violate your rights while circumventing due process.

(I will make note here that leftists aren't the only people that are pushing for Red Flag laws. Donald Trump is a vocal supporter of them as well)

The numerous laws Virginia's government hopes to implement set the stage for the incremental removal of all gun rights. Currently, at least four of these laws have been advanced by the Virginia Senate Judiciary committee and many more are expected to be implemented by the end of this month.

They are pushing the envelope to see how far they can move the boundary of what is “standard” when it comes to anti-gun laws. The people of Virginia know this is the agenda. It has ALWAYS been the leftist agenda (not to mention a globalist agenda) to seek out total disarmament of the population while claiming they only want "reasonable safeguards". This is unacceptable, and will not be tolerated.

Leftists argue that law enforcement authorities that refuse to enforce new gun laws risk losing their “official immunity”.
I'm not sure that “official immunity” has anything to do with the enforcement of gun laws; it is meant to protect LEOs from civil litigation while conducting normal ministerial duties. This sounds more like a thinly veiled threat against county officials and law enforcement who refuse to comply. It is also an empty threat.

County officials cannot be compelled by the state to actively enforce unconstitutional gun control laws, nor can the state force a county to set aside funds for such an effort. In the case of county sheriffs, these are officials elected by the people of the county, and they answer to those people first, and state government second. County officials can be punished for breaking the law, but they cannot be punished for not enforcing the law to an arbitrary degree that the state sees as acceptable.

Leftists are pursuing other more aggressive avenues to enforce new gun laws.

Representatives of the state government have threatened the possible use of the national guard to force counties to comply. They have made a budget proposal for $6.5 million to form a new "sex offense and firearms investigation unit”, which they deny will be used as a goon squad to enter into sanctuary counties and enforce new gun laws by circumventing local law enforcement, much like the federal government uses the FBI or ATF to circumvent state authorities when it pleases them.

Finally, the Virginia government is also seeking at least $250,000 to be allocated to prisons, and this is directly tied to the new gun laws and the people that will be imprisoned by them.

The governor of Virginia claims that he supports grandfathering in existing guns as long as they are registered in the new state database. Of course, gun owners know from history that the first step towards total confiscation is forced registration. The mainstream media has suggested that anyone who thinks these budget changes are in preparation for arresting gun owners is a "conspiracy theorist".

They had better be right, because the government of Virginia should know that if they did compel such actions it would be a detrimental mistake.

The national guard of Virginia is made up of the citizens of Virginia, and many of these people may not comply either. If they do, or if the state establishes an enforcement arm to target individual citizens to make examples out of them, the most likely outcome is that people will defend themselves and their constitutional rights. People on both sides might be hurt in the process.

The question then arises: Are these laws worth dying for? I can say with some authority as a long time activist in the liberty movement that the majority of conservatives are willing to risk death to protect their rights. Are state authorities willing to risk death to enforce unconstitutional laws? Because that is where this situation is headed...

Leftists claim that 2nd Amendment sanctuaries are not comparable to illegal immigrant sanctuaries.
Leftists are correct, the two situations are NOT the same. Illegal immigration is not a constitutionally protected right, and gun ownership is.

I find it fascinating that not long ago leftists and statist Republicans were arguing fervently against the idea that states and municipalities could nullify federal law. During the 10th Amendment and nullification uprisings that led to such confrontations as Bundy Ranch, these people viciously attacked anyone that supported sovereignty activism. They used to claim that the federal government was the alpha and the omega; the final word. Now, suddenly, leftists have pulled a u-turn and are attempting to assert sovereignty rights for illegals in sanctuary states and cities. Again, illegals are not afforded constitutional protections, gun owners are.

One could try to make a moral argument in favor of protecting illegal immigrants from deportation, but there is no legal argument. And, I could easily present a far superior moral argument against illegal immigration than they ever could in favor of it. I would have to write a whole other article to cover this issue in depth, but it is important to point out the double standards and hypocrisy inherent in the leftist position.

Leftists argue that this is only about Virginia.

Conservatives don't see it that way. A conflict in Virginia will likely attract thousands of people from outside the state, because the view will be that the line is being drawn there. It may also spread beyond Virginia into other states with unconstitutional gun control measures.

Now, it's important for conservatives, especially those that actually live in Virginia, to understand that there will be conmen and shysters who will show up out of nowhere and try to exploit the situation to elevate their own careers or public image. They will try to make as much money as they can while shamelessly self promoting. They will pretend to help while offering substandard advice and substandard training. And if the manure hits the fan, these guys will suddenly disappear as quickly as they arrived.

There will also be people who will try to steer the conflict towards a left vs right paradigm, as I noted earlier. Sanctuary counties should maintain local leadership and local representation in these matters to avoid being manipulated. If people outside the state want to help, then they should be fine with doing this under the supervision and management of the locals.

The best possible scenario would be that the state government of Virginia realizes that it's not worth it to try to enforce unconstitutional gun laws, and that the risks are far too high to manage. They would abandon such endeavors and recognize that counties will not comply even if they try to apply leverage to them.

My suspicion is that the state will try to enforce laws quietly and incrementally at first, arresting a handful of violators and activists over the course of several months to make examples out of them while test running Red Flag laws for backdoor confiscation. They will wait for the activists to quiet down and go home.

The worst case scenario is that this is an establishment beta test for the rest of the country, and that they may WANT to start a conflict in the hopes that this will spread into a national civil war. This kind of scheme would require accelerated and violent enforcement of gun laws by Democrats in Virginia to illicit an immediate response. If this is the case, and a wider conflict is triggered, conservatives MUST NOT lose sight of the bigger picture. The globalists should be the focus of our ire; the democrats are being used. A conflict based only on political division will mean defeat for us all, and a win for the elites.


read:The Virginia Gun Rights Conflict: Best And Worst Case Scenarios

There's an ad for selling gold at the end of the article, which I cut out. Don't know if this qualifies as some the articles mentioned that something special was to be done.
 

homecanner1

Veteran Member
Its vital we bear witness on Monday as they instagram, livestream, Vlog etc. Screenshots, posted here to a dedicated thread. That way if MAGA hat wearing miscreants pull crap, we can go over the pics with a fine tooth facial ID comb and look for gingermen in crowd pics.

My concern is the very best tactical and rangers are going as frontline as they understand what is at stake. But as our finest snipers and pointmen, am worried they would be wasted in a melee or so bogged down with legal/medical bills afterward, rendering them bankrupted.

Hawk said on his radioshow yesterday, the real party starts on Tuesday AFTER the world sees how Richmond responds on Monday and therefore it may be prudent to hold back some reserves. It looks like fish in a barrel to me. I wouldn't go into that fencing nightmare but assume a fallback doorway. Forboding sense that this is the trigger event both sides want.
 

Sacajawea

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CaryC, I thought that was a useful article too. A bit wordy, and he loses his initial point - which is that what the governor & legislature has proposed is UNconstitutional - and therefore an abrogation or violation of the Rule of Law. The arguable defense of "we're the government and can make any law we like and force you all to comply" simply negates the whole of the constitution.

It's been trending this way faster & faster over the last years. And I think it's finally sinking in across a broader group of people. It was probably a mistake on the DIMS part, to pick this particular issue to over-reach on so abruptly. Probably an indication of how weak their voting base really is; and how desperately fearful they are of losing their hold on culture & society & power for a very long time.

I've been aware for some time, that media distorts the amount of support that really exists - across both parties and across US voters as a whole - for these dramatic departures from American traditions and principles. Only recently seeing a smattering of articles that provide a completely different statistical reality than the "narrative". So the only way I can comprehend that, is they're selling the "big lie" to encourage their rabid "true believers" and demoralize those who can actively still think and question for themselves what is "right and wrong".

Monday's media coverage of events (whatever they be) will likely validate that some more.
 

CaryC

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It's been trending this way faster & faster over the last years. And I think it's finally sinking in across a broader group of people. It was probably a mistake on the DIMS part, to pick this particular issue to over-reach on so abruptly.

While a totally agree with your statement, I don't think the over-reach is so abrupt. It's been coming for a long time, abortion, and all the other nonsense ad nauseum, ever since the '70's. I just think this is the last straw, the one that broke the camel's back, so to speak.

When loading a Camel one really doesn't pay much attention to the weight of the load, until his back breaks, and then it's like...….what happened?

I also think this is a back breaker because without the 2A, nothing else matters. There is no recourse. It is the last line of defense.
 

vector7

Dot Collector
Call Out for CRISIS ACTORS in Virginia..As GOV Declares State of Emergency

View: https://youtu.be/2PeYUBJXpAw

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Virginia has an open casting call right now for "crisis actors"...at the same time a massive pro gun rally is to take place.

AMISSVILLE. VA – SEEKING ACTORS FOR ONGOING "LIVE" ROLE PLAYING PROJECT – CURRENT – PAID

LINK: https://www.film.virginia.org/hotline...

Amissville – Seeking actors for ongoing live roleplaying project – Current – Paid
“Hostile Environment Awareness Training (HEAT)”
Location: Amissville, VA (near Warrenton/Culpeper)
Rate: $250/day ($200 plus $50 for travel). Additional travel/lodging not provided.

Description: HEAT courses are designed to prepare NGO staff for operating in challenging international environments through in-person simulations. Actors take on varying roles (terrorist, IED victim, hostage, rescue team) throughout each workshop. The work can be intense (both physically and mentally) but also very rewarding.

For more information and to apply, please complete the casting call submission form now at the following link:

Casting Call: HEAT - Airtable

Any submissions directly to this e-mail address (rather than through the form) will be disregarded. Thank you for your interest in this project!

Shaun Irving

ONE DAY AGO- VIRGINIA GOV DECLARES STATE OF EMERGENCY AHEAD OF GUNS RIGHTS RALLY, citing "credible" threats of violence https://www.google.com/search?q=virgi...

UPDATE!!!! an HOUR AGO: FBI ARRESTS # NEO-NAZIS BEFORE GUN RALLY https://www.google.com/search?q=virgi...

**************MUST SEE VIDEO VIRGINIA GOVERNOR DECLARING STATE OF EMERGENCY*****
View: https://youtu.be/ynDloxA8Whg

RT 1:29
 

DazedandConfused

Veteran Member
Look for something big to happen in another state to draw attention away from VA. They can't have everyone focused on a large group of Americans standing up for the peoples rights.
 
So the 3 "neo-Nazis" that were arrested are members of "The Base". Weird coincidence that "Al Qaeda" translates to "the base"...and it was supposed set up by certain rogue agencies of our government. And did you all catch the part in the article where it said they were monitoring "ENCRYPTED chat rooms." Let that one sink in. I smell a whole bunch of government moles involved in this whole thing.
When they say that "they were monitoring "ENCRYPTED chat rooms," it does not likely mean that real individuals are actually reading/listening 24/7 - what is does mean is that they are utilizing wide-sweeping AI-type technologies that are able to monitor 24/7, forwarding to actual human monitors specific URLs that the AI believes is in need of human monitoring. Tracking WHERE the "controversial" commentary is actually emitting from/specific geographical location/specific smart-device/computer is absolute child's play for the three-letter bunch - they have been proficient in the task of determining real geographical locations for real individuals for over 20 years.


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Sam I Am

Inactive
The absolute smell of BULLSH*T coming from the VA gov / FBI is so strong it may start killing birds.

They caused this themselves; no one but themselves to blame.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Has the Constitution become legally nullified? Has any of the amendments been dissolved or changed? Time to take the governor into custody or is this the new rule of law.


THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.
WHY has someone--or some group--NOT ALREADY FILED COURT ACTIONS AGAINST this blatant attack on people's SECOND AMENDMENT rights?
Take it to the SUPREME COURT!
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Call Out for CRISIS ACTORS in Virginia..As GOV Declares State of Emergency

View: https://youtu.be/2PeYUBJXpAw

RT 2:42

Virginia has an open casting call right now for "crisis actors"...at the same time a massive pro gun rally is to take place.

AMISSVILLE. VA – SEEKING ACTORS FOR ONGOING "LIVE" ROLE PLAYING PROJECT – CURRENT – PAID

LINK: https://www.film.virginia.org/hotline...

I think they've ALREADY PULLED this link.

It went to a you tube page asking if I want to leave You Tube--

and the link on that page goes to Virginia Film Office
 

vector7

Dot Collector
I think they've ALREADY PULLED this link.

It went to a you tube page asking if I want to leave You Tube--

and the link on that page goes to Virginia Film Office


I bet someone called the agency about this.

The NOTE is new stating (changed from about an hour ago) the actors are not for a false flag now and Shaun Irving's name is removed from the bottom.

Now:
WARRENTON – Seeking actors for ongoing live roleplaying project – Current – Paid
NOTE: This is a casting for an actual roleplaying project for professional actors–not crisis actors for a false flag operation. Project takes place in the Warrenton area (more than 2 hours north of Richmond, VA).
“Hostile Environment Awareness Training (HEAT)”


Location: WARRENTON, VA

Rate: $250/day ($200 plus $50 for travel). Additional travel/lodging not provided.
Description: HEAT courses are designed to prepare NGO staff for operating in challenging international environments through in-person simulations. Actors take on varying roles (terrorist, IED victim, hostage, rescue team) throughout each workshop. The work can be intense (both physically and mentally) but also very rewarding.

For more information and to apply, please complete the casting call submission form now.

Any submissions directly to this e-mail address (rather than through the form) will be disregarded. Thank you for your interest in this project!

Before:
Amissville – Seeking actors for ongoing live roleplaying project – Current – Paid
“Hostile Environment Awareness Training (HEAT)”
Location: Amissville, VA (near Warrenton/Culpeper)
Rate: $250/day ($200 plus $50 for travel). Additional travel/lodging not provided.

Description: HEAT courses are designed to prepare NGO staff for operating in challenging international environments through in-person simulations. Actors take on varying roles (terrorist, IED victim, hostage, rescue team) throughout each workshop. The work can be intense (both physically and mentally) but also very rewarding.

For more information and to apply, please complete the casting call submission form now at the following link:

Casting Call: HEAT - Airtable

Any submissions directly to this e-mail address (rather than through the form) will be disregarded. Thank you for your interest in this project!

Shaun Irving






Actors being recruited to be terrorist, IED victims, hostages or rescue teams out of Amissville VA, just an hour outside of Langley?

Now Antifa showing up?

Antifa Group Plans To March Alongside Pro-Gun Protesters In Virginia

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Scott Morefield Reporter
January 16, 2020 5:34 PM ET

A diverse gathering of pro-gun protestors set to descend upon Virginia’s capital on Monday could include an unlikely ally, a local antifa group.

In what Vice called a “bizarre meeting of the minds,” Richmond-based Antifa Seven Hills also strongly opposes the gun measures now likely to become law since Democrats won control of both Virginia houses last year, and they too want Democratic leaders in Richmond to know.

“I think it’s been pretty important for us to focus on the fact that gun control in America has a legacy of racist enforcement,” an Antifa Seven Hills spokesperson called James, a self-identified anarchist who withheld his real name for fear of getting doxxed, told Vice. “Like taking guns away from black people, because black people were perceived as a threat to property and the sanctity of the state.”

“This is our fight as much as anyone else’s,” James continued. “It’s our state, and we are left largely out of the debate. The presence of an armed left is not discussed, it’s not understood.”

To the “armed left,” gun control represents the rise of a police state and the oppression of minorities made powerless by disarmament, but it’s a class issue as well.

RICHMOND, VA - FEBRUARY 02: Virginia Governor Ralph Northam speaks with reporters at a press conference at the Governor's mansion on February 2, 2019 in Richmond, Virginia. Northam denies allegations that he is pictured in a yearbook photo wearing racist attire. (Photo by Alex Edelman/Getty Images)

RICHMOND, VA – FEBRUARY 02: Virginia Governor Ralph Northam speaks with reporters at a press conference at the Governor’s mansion on February 2, 2019 in Richmond, Virginia. (Photo by Alex Edelman/Getty Images)

“In the case of Antifa Seven Hills, they believe they’ve got more in common with working-class white Virginians, regardless of their political bent, than they do with many of the moderate Democrats who helped their party win control of the Legislature in November, for the first time since 1994,” Vice reported, adding that the group sees the coming January 20 rally “as an opportunity to extend an olive branch to other gun owners — at least those who don’t align with the far-right militias or white supremacists who are also expected to show up to the event.”

While antifa groups in other areas, particularly the West coast, often practice and condone violence against their political enemies and have even been called “a major organization of terror” by President Donald Trump, James says his group takes a different approach: “I think what’s particular about the South is that we have to be a bit more creative and sensitive to the people around us — instead of fulfilling some sort of meme of what antifa is,” he told Vice. “That’s really what we’re trying to work against right now, especially by talking to conservatives and showing we aren’t just a black-clad group of rabble-rousers who are out for attention and have jobs funded by George Soros.”

James declined to “discuss” the group’s “plans” should white supremacist groups join the protests. Virginia Governor Ralph Northam has declared a state of emergency and banned firearms on Capitol grounds.
 
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hd5574

Veteran Member
The Senate of Virginia voted for three bills... Now the go to house of delegates to committee.. if they pass out of committee the house votes on them.. then to governor blackface baby killer for signature.
 

SurfaceTension

Veteran Member
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.
WHY has someone--or some group--NOT ALREADY FILED COURT ACTIONS AGAINST this blatant attack on people's SECOND AMENDMENT rights?
Take it to the SUPREME COURT!

Not sure which part you're shouting about, but to summarize/make sure everyone is on the same page:
  • The bills under consideration (red flag, registration, etc.) are still bills; they are not yet laws to be challenged.
  • The governor's emergency declaration/executive order banning guns in an area around the capitol January 17-21 was challenged and upheld (more accurately denied injunction) by the circuit court. The GOA and VCDL has filed an Emergency Petition for Review with the Virginia Supreme Court.
 
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