EBOLA Get your flu shot now!

Codeno

Veteran Member
We were thrown into a situation a few years back that became the impetus for countless hours of research into big pharm, specific diseases and the "go to" drugs prescribed for said diseases, vaccines, and the medical community in general. There's not a chance we'll be getting flu shots.
 

naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The symptoms of Ebola seem to line up with norovius better. When you find a shot for that, let me know.

Each time I get the flu it gets easier and easier. My body is building up some good flu antibodies that can't be copied with flu shots.
 

dhelman47

Contributing Member
Yep i get no shots whatsoever am 67 and have not had a cold etc for years, O yeah speaking of the polio vax. got one when i was a child and yep you guessed it i got the polio a mild case but still i got what they gave me polio. So i say to each there own go ahead trust the government as for me not. Also am in great shape work out five days a week and take my vitamins and eat healthy. So what i do works for me.
A voice of reason in a thread full of 1/4 truth, outright lies oft repeated, fear and hyperbole.

I get my flu shot....and what do ya know...even though I'm round THOUSANDS of people with the flu each year, the vax works.

Just like for polio.

You know, you all should just skip the polio vax while you are at it.

OMG...

SMDH.

J

PS...ITS POISON...THE INTERNET SAID SO!!!!
 

Hawke

Veteran Member
I used to get the flu shot every year. And, every year, I would eventually get the flu. Every single year. About six years ago, I decided to hell with the flu shot. Lo and behold, I didn't get sick that year. Haven't gotten the shot since, and haven't had the flu since. I won't be getting it this year either.
 

Flashyzipp

Veteran Member
I am not getting one this year. I have had shingles for 9 weeks now and my immune system is crap. I am terrified of getting a flu shot this year. I have always gotten them until now.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I just don't think I can do it, sorry aint happening. :(

The years past I got them UNTIL H1N1 and all that was in those vaccines. Way too scary. I did get a pneumonia vax that year and have been fine ever since.

Honestly, the very minute I wasn't working with certain populations I haven't been as sick as I was in the past so I HAVE to think I'm better off now. Maybe I'm wrong, but will just have to take a chance.
 

poppy

Veteran Member
The flu kills tens of thousands more people per year than Ebola ever thought about. If you are over 60 and especially if you are in poor health, it can and may well kill you. I'm 67 and in great health but 4 years ago the flu landed me in the ER after fighting it at home with home remedies for a week. Everyone thinks every virus they catch is the flu. Not so. I'm talking about influenza verified by lab tests. That's a whole different ballgame. Thanks, but I now get the shots and have not had it again nor do I want it. If you get the REAL influenza and do not have someone in the house to take care of you, good luck. No way are you able to care for yourself.
 

kittyknits

Veteran Member
The flu kills tens of thousands more people per year than Ebola ever thought about. If you are over 60 and especially if you are in poor health, it can and may well kill you. I'm 67 and in great health but 4 years ago the flu landed me in the ER after fighting it at home with home remedies for a week. Everyone thinks every virus they catch is the flu. Not so. I'm talking about influenza verified by lab tests. That's a whole different ballgame. Thanks, but I now get the shots and have not had it again nor do I want it. If you get the REAL influenza and do not have someone in the house to take care of you, good luck. No way are you able to care for yourself.


Ebola has never been in populous cities before; it has been in very rural jungle villages in Central Africa (not West Africa). It was too virulent to get too far. Things have changed. Supposedly there are going to be up to 10,000 cases a week by Christmas. Give it a year or two and it will beat out the flu handily.

It's quite possible that by then people on this board will be talking about how they are getting their annual ebola vaccine shot.
 

Moggy

Veteran Member
No vaccinations for me...I'd rather do natural preventative care.

I found the following in my document file from a few years ago but unfortunately, I did not reference the source.


Here’s info on what happens when you take a vaccination:
If you use a vaccination, it takes a minimum of two weeks for the body to develop antibodies against the proteins in the vaccines, and to thus have any antibody titer – which is what allopaths believe is supposed to be able to kill the disease organisms if/when they cause an infection ….the antibodies.

In addition, it takes less than 24 hours for the vaccine material to severely damage the thymus, as that damage is immediate – thus nullifying the body’s FIRST line of defense – which would otherwise produce killer cells and/or neutrophils and macrophage cells to eliminate any new pathogen entering the body – BEFORE it can get circulated and cause an infection. (Antibodies will never be needed.)

Antibodies are the SECOND line of defense. They are not triggered at all, until and unless the thymus has been overwhelmed and indicates that (chemically) to the antibody system, AND the infective organism has not only started an infection but also replicated to GREAT NUMBERS – The thymus then indicates that it is overwhelmed and needs antibody help to fight the now established infection. There has to be an infection happening for antibodies to get involved. Thymus PREVENTS infection.

SO here – with vaccine use – we have this situation:

* Vaccine damage to thymus.
* NO First Line PREVENTION of infection at all, long-term
* No second line backup for at least two weeks while antibodies are made.

Just how vulnerable do you want to be?
ANd that’s without considering side effects of the vaccine that ALSO lower
resistance to ALL diseases (and give unwanted symptoms).
 
I'll pass too. Here comes a TRUE Story..
2008 September before 'PANDEMIC FLU FALSE FLAG' of 2009 my MIL age 74 who was healthy,vibrant and dancing on Her 74th BD. She was not a Dr. seeker but Moved and got hooked up with one of those pay 1500.00 per year practices to be a 'Member' of and Walla..Flu shot!!!

The 1st sign was a little 'Dementia' within 21 days post vax and then it spiraled into a stroke and then all ORGANS were destroyed..She is in the ground now and it only took from Sept.08 to July of '09 to kill Her Slowly and Horribly!!!

So..I don't Vaccinate and I highly suggest all who do to please research and be advised of what can and does happen MANY times when one chooses to Vaccinate.
Peace and Blessing's,
MCA
 

Roscoe's Daddy

Veteran Member
Get your Sambucol** now!!!!! is my reply to the OP. Don't be promoting that flu shot shit to me!!!

**or other elderberry product or homemade blend.

Also, vitamin C, vitamin D, garlic, zinc, Epicor. God provided us with natural things to boost our immune systems. What I have heard about the flu shot is that it suppresses your immune system for quite a while.

Perhaps it's just me, but Sambucol taken in quantity, has been utterly worthless in keeping me well. Epicor on the other hand, has proven to be a decisive tool in keeping illness either away, or reduced to a very, very minor annoyance.
 

nomadcrna

Senior Member
Simply not true.

With all the incompetence shown about our medical "community", you folks want to get a vaccination that is less than 30% effective for its intended purpose? It is more likely to make you sick than prevent sickness. You are better off living and eating healthy.
 

Mulder

Contributing Member
Flue shots? No way, no how! For a few years after I graduated from college, I listened to my doctor, and I got the flue shots. And I've never been sicker in my life than durring those years. The result: I won't get a flue shot ever again. Although I did get a viral pneumonia shot hoping to avoid that complication at least, should I fall ill.
 

QWERT123

Watching...
I have had flu -(real flu not man flu) twice. Both times I felt like I should be in hospital but was too weak to get out of bed. But it passed after a while and I got better. I have not taken vaccines and I believe that my body has probably beaten the flu virus many times over the years. I wonder about the side effects of the vaccine and if it would do any long term damage to my body. Looking at the odds, I made a decision a long time ago that my natural immune system was the one I wanted to rely on.
so far it appears I was right.
 

Brass Scrounger

Contributing Member
My work brings in a nurse from a local clinic and offers free flu shots - I have been getting one yearly for the last 10 years and have not had the flu since. I have had colds, and at the first sign of one I take a shot glass of elderberry tincture every morning and evening - seems to work (but tastes like crap).

Brass
 

Warthog

Black Out
Even this 10 year old rock n roller is smart enough to know what's going on in this unconstitutional vaccine hell hole.
warty

 

Fetz

Senior Member
Don't want to discuss opinion on flu shot. Just if you are going to get one, don't put it off, get it now. Probably be unavailable if another cluster of Ebola patients materializes.
 

TxGal

Day by day
This year I'm not getting one, and likely won't get one again. I'm in my 60s, and the effectiveness is supposed to be like 50% for that age group. I've had years where I didn't get the flu shot, got a 'mack truck' case of the flu, and went back to getting the flu shot the following year. Most years I got the flu despite the flu shot, sometimes a lighter case, sometimes not. DH just never gets the flu, it's amazing, so he won't get the flu shot. He did get pneumonia in his 30s a few times, out of the clear blue sky. His MD okayed the pneumonia vax and he hasn't had it since (fingers crossed). DD has a history of asthma, so she will likely get the flu shot. Everyone's a little different, you just have to go with what you feel is right.
 

breezyhill

Veteran Member
I never have gotten a flu shot and last year, february and march, I got the flu, two different strains, confirmed by the nasal swab tests. I debated getting one this year, after what happened last year, but figure that maybe I've got now got some resistance/antibodies from having the actual flue.
any thoughts?
 

FROG

Contributing Member
I had my first one last year because my DH and DS both get the flu shot (first responders) and they talked me into it, but I am still debating; Do I want to get the flu and then wonder the whole time if it is really E?
 

SuElPo

Veteran Member
With all my autoimmune disorders, and all the meds I am on, nothing seems to do much for me anymore. I am scheduled to get a flu shot today, but with the non live type. Has never made me worse. I feel my days are numbered, due to the fact that each year now I seem to feel much worse from these horrendous autoimmune disorders. The latest added for me is the inhalers, into my lungs, up my nose, etc. to keep breathing. Have asthma on top of it all. I have lupus, sjogren's, fibro, diabetes, hypothyroid, and a few others. The doctors are always looking for signs of more to add on. (A new way of topping off) lol...

susan
 

bobby.knight

Senior Member
Flu shot ingredients
They include mercury and other highly toxic chemicals












The list of flu shot ingredients is quite a long and scary one. But unlike, say, ingredients in canned and packaged foods, this list is not normally visible for consumers to see. People get flu shots from an injection given by the doctor. They do not first get to read the ingredients list.
If you do, you will certainly think more than twice about getting that flu shot. Because it is filled with toxic chemicals, some of which are extremely toxic.

Mercury in flu shots

Among the many toxic flu shot ingredients, the one that some consumers know about - and this is quite widely discussed on Internet forums - is mercury. Almost all flu shots, as well as other vaccines, contain Thimerosal, a mercury disinfectant / preservative.

Mercury is extremely toxic. It can cause brain injury and mercury in vaccines have been linked to an epidemic of autism, with the number of children affected by autism having risen by thousands of percent in the last two decades. Mercury can also cause auto immune diseases.

The medical establishment has been staunchly defending the use of mercury in flu shots and other vaccines because it simply cannot admit its dangers. To do so would be to admit that the entire medical profession has been harming people - in very serious ways - for over a hundred years. This could create a crisis of confidence in medical science, not to mention trillions of dollars in law suits.

What it has done is to:
•put warning labels on flu shots and other vaccines, which consumers do not get to read anyway.


•produce Thimerosal-free vaccines, but these are difficult to find. Only a small percentage of consumers know about the dangers of flu shot ingredients like Thimerosal and mercury, so there is not a lot of demand for Thimerosal-free vaccines and hence, not a lot of supply.

Meanwhile, health authorities like the US Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) continue to refuse to warn the public against the dangers of flu shot ingredients like Thimerosal, citing "lack of evidence".

Proponents of the flu shot and other vaccines argue that the amount of mercury present in flu shots is very small- about the amont found in a small can of tuna.

To begin with, nobody is saying that the amount of mercury in a can of tuna is harmless - especially for infants. It is just that the oceans have become so polluted that many people have come to accept that if they want to eat fish, they will inevitably have to take a bit of toxic mercury with it.

Moreover, the form of mercury used as flu shot ingredients is not the same as the type of mercury found in fish. The effects of mercury in vaccines are still not completely understood and nobody can say for sure that it is safe. All that the defenders of vaccination can say it is it is "not known to be harmful" - even though considerable scientific evidence already exists.

At the same time, health authorities are encouraging more people to get flu shots. in September 2008, the CDC expanded its recommendations to include yearly flu shots for all children ages 6 months to 18 years. The CDC also now advises pregnant women to be vaccinated, along with healthcare workers and those over 50.

So more and more people will get exposed to toxic flu shot ingredients like mercury. The problem will get worse!


What about Thimerosal-free vaccines?

Well, you still have a long list of other toxic flu shot ingredients to deal with. These include:
•Ethylene glycol is used as antifreeze. Ethylene glycol and its toxic byproducts first affect the central nervous system, then the heart and finally the kidneys. Ingestion of sufficient amounts can be fatal.


•Phenol, also known as carbolic acid, is used as a disinfectant and dye. Phenol was originally used as an antiseptic in surgery but it use was abandoned because it causes skin irritation. Before and during the Second World War, phenol injections were used by Nazi Germans as a means of rapid execution!


•Formaldehyde is the chemical used for embalming. It is used in vaccines as a perservative. Formadelhyde is a known cancer-causing agent and it can also cause allergic reactions. Its use in cosmetics is banned in Sweden and Japan.


•Aluminum is a toxic metal used as an additive in flu shots to promote antibody response. Aluminium is widely associated with Alzheimer's disease and studies have shown that people who received five or more flu shots during a 10-year period has 10 times higher risks of developing Alzheimer's Disease, compared to those who had fewer than two flu shots. Aluminuim has also been shown to cause seizures and cancer in laboratory mice.


•Antibiotics like Neomycin and Streptomycin are used as, well, antibiotics, They are added to flu shots to kill any bacteria that may be present. These antibiotics can cause allergic reaction in some people.




Finally, the vaccine...

After going through this long list of flu shot ingredients, do you still want to take it? We have not even come to the main ingredient - the vaccine itself, the supposedly weakened or disabled bacteria or virus that is supposed to stimulate the body's immune response.

In the US, a typical flu shot contains three viruses, two A srains and one B strain. The choice of virus is decided by "experts" at the CDC, who make an educated guess as to which viruses are most likely to strike in a given year. If they guessed corectly, the vaccine might be about 70 percent effective. If they guessed wrongly, which they did in 2003/2004 winter, the effectiveness rate plunges to near zero!

How do they produce this virus that goes into flu shots? Or the bacteria that goes into other types of vaccines?

These are cultivated in animal proteins, such as rabbit brain tissue, monkey kidney tissue, pig blood, chicken embryo, embryonic guinea pig cells and calf serum. When injected into the body, these proteins turn toxic because proteins have to be broken down into amino acids by the digestive system before they can be utilised.
 
Johns Hopkins Scientist Reveals Shocking Report on Flu Vaccines

http://www.realfarmacy.com/johns-hopkins-scientist-reveals-shocking-report-flu-vaccines/

Oct 17 • Vaccines
by SYLVIA BOOTH HUBBARD

A Johns Hopkins scientist has issued a blistering report on influenza vaccines in the British Medical Journal (BMJ). Peter Doshi, Ph.D., charges that although the vaccines are being pushed on the public in unprecedented numbers, they are less effective and cause more side effects than alleged by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Further, says Doshi, the studies that underlie the CDC’s policy of encouraging most people to get a yearly flu shot are often low quality studies that do not substantiate the official claims.

Promoting influenza vaccines is one of the most visible and aggressive public health policies in the United States, says Doshi of the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine. Drug companies and public officials press for widespread vaccination each fall, offering vaccinations in drugstores and supermarkets. The results have been phenomenal. Only 20 years ago, 32 million doses of influenza vaccine were available in the United States on an annual basis. Today, the total has skyrocketed to 135 million doses.


“The vaccine may be less beneficial and less safe than has been claimed, and the threat of influenza seems to be overstated,” Doshi says. Mandatory vaccination polices have been enacted, often in healthcare facilities, forcing some people to take the vaccine under threat of losing their jobs.

The main assertion of the CDC that fuels the push for flu vaccines each year is that influenza comes with a risk of serious complications which can cause death, especially in senior citizens and those suffering from chronic illnesses. That’s not the case, said Doshi.

When read carefully, the CDC acknowledges that studies finding any perceived reduction in death rates may be due to the “healthy-user effect” — the tendency for healthier people to be vaccinated more than less-healthy people. The only randomized trial of influenza vaccine in older people found no decrease in deaths. “This means that influenza vaccines are approved for use in older people despite any clinical trials demonstrating a reduction in serious outcomes,” says Doshi.

Even when the vaccine is closely matched to the type of influenza that’s prevalent, which doesn’t happen every year, randomized, controlled trials of healthy adults found that vaccinating between 33 and 100 people resulted in one less case of influenza. In addition, says Doshi, no evidence exists to show that this reduction in the risk of influenza for a specific population — here in the United States, among healthy adults, for example — extrapolates into any reduced risk of serious complications from influenza, such as hospitalizations or deaths, among seniors.

“For most people, and possibly most doctors, officials need only claim that vaccines save lives, and it is assumed there must be solid research behind it,” says Doshi. Unfortunately, that’s not the case, he says.


Although the CDC implies that flu vaccines are safe and there’s no need to weigh benefits against risk, Doshi disagrees. He points to an Australian study that found one in every 110 children under the age of five had convulsions following vaccinations in 2009 for H1N1 influenza. Additional investigations found that the H1N1 vaccine was also associated with a spike in cases of narcolepsy among adolescents.

Doshi’s concerns echo those of Dr. Russell Blaylock, a neurosurgeon and author of “The Blaylock Wellness Report” who has deep concerns over the safety and efficacy of the flu vaccine.


Not only is the vaccine not safe, Dr. Blaylock tells Newsmax Health, it doesn’t even work. “The vaccine is completely worthless, and the government knows it,” he says. “There are three reasons the government tells the elderly why they should get flu shots: secondary pneumonia, hospitalization, and death. Yet a study by the Cochrane group studied hundreds of thousands of people and found it offered zero protection for those three things in the general community. It offered people in nursing homes some immunity against the flu — at best one-third — but that was only if they picked the right vaccine.”

A study released in February found that the flu shot was only 9 percent effective in protecting seniors against the 2012-2013 season’s most virulent influenza bug.

What’s even worse is that small children who are given the flu vaccine get no protection from the disease. “The government also says that every baby over the age of six months should have a vaccine, and they know it contains a dose of mercury that is toxic to the brain,” says Dr. Blaylock. “They also know the studies have shown that the flu vaccine has zero — zero — effectiveness in children under five.”

For most people, says Dr. Blaylock, flu vaccines don’t prevent the flu but actually increase the odds of getting it. The mercury contained in vaccines is such a strong immune depressant that a flu shot suppresses immunity for several weeks. “This makes people highly susceptible to catching the flu,” he says. “They may even think the vaccine gave them the flu, but that’s not true — it depressed their immune system and then they caught the flu.”


Mercury overstimulates the brain for several years, says Dr. Blaylock, and that activation is the cause of Alzheimer’s and other degenerative diseases. One study found that those who get the flu vaccine for three to five years increase their risk of Alzheimer’s disease 10-fold.


Doshi asserts that influenza is a case of “disease mongering” in an effort to expand markets. He points to the fact that deaths from flu declined sharply during the middle of the 20th century, long before the huge vaccine campaigns that kicked off the 21st century.

Why do drug companies push the flu vaccine? “It’s all about money,” says Dr. Blaylock. “Vaccines are a pharmaceutical company’s dream. They have a product that both the government and the media will help them sell, and since vaccines are protected, they can’t be sued if anyone has a complication.”

Doshi’s article “is a breath of fresh air,” says Dr. Blaylock. “This article exposes in well-defined and articulate terms what has been known for a long time — the flu vaccine promotion is a fraud.

“Here’s the bottom line,” says Dr. Blaylock. “The vast number of people who get the flu vaccine aren’t going to get any benefit, but they get all of the risks and complications.”

Source: newsmaxhealth.com, The British Medical Journal

http://www.newsmaxhealth.com/Headli...ccine-Peter-Doshi-Ph-D-/2013/05/16/id/504942/

http://www.bmj.com/content/346/bmj.f3037
 

kittyknits

Veteran Member
I had my first one last year because my DH and DS both get the flu shot (first responders) and they talked me into it, but I am still debating; Do I want to get the flu and then wonder the whole time if it is really E?

I always thought influenza was respiratory (I've had it a couple of times in my life and it sure was respiratory).

I hear mostly about vomiting and diarrhea from possible ebola patients. Wouldn't a different set of viruses (like norovirus) give those symptoms, so that one might fear it was ebola?

Would the flu shot affect those? Not that I've ever heard.
 

Tuttle

Contributing Member
I've had the vaccine, and it was eight hours of effects that were pretty hard to distinguish from just plain flu, minus the runny nose. Yeah, if that's the weak version, you don't want the real thing.
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
A voice of reason in a thread full of 1/4 truth, outright lies oft repeated, fear and hyperbole.

I get my flu shot....and what do ya know...even though I'm round THOUSANDS of people with the flu each year, the vax works.

Just like for polio.

You know, you all should just skip the polio vax while you are at it.

OMG...

SMDH.

J

PS...ITS POISON...THE INTERNET SAID SO!!!!

your post shows a complete lack of understanding for the variances between viruses

polio does not mutate at all like flu does

the flu is constantly mutating and they do their best guess as to what flu will be doing the rounds for next season and set up the vax accordingly

sometimes they guess what strains will be prevalent and some years they totally blow it because the flu doesn't play by the rules

but you are free to drink whatever flavor kool aid you'd like
 

FREEBIRD

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Two of my children used to get the flu shot---and every single time they came home, promptly (as in, within a couple of hours) ran a fever which lasted a week, missed a week of school---and one ended up in the emergency room on multiple occasions. This happened a total of 13 times, between the two of them. The doctors insisted it was because they had already been exposed to flu at school and was the merest coincidence---13 times, no exceptions. I am slow but I can be taught. No more flu shots = no more flu, at least in our case.
 

medic38572

TB Fanatic
Take the shot I will take my chances...And I know this has to do with H1N1 but the point is made...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/what-s-the-danger-of-swine-flu-vaccinations/14851

There seems to be quite a lot of uncertainty about the technical nature of Swine Flu (H1N1) vaccines.

As a medical doctor, I wish to clarify a number of improtant issues: First, we should talk about vaccines instead of vaccine, since the vaccines vary as for their compositions and even their ways of being dispensed: some by injection, another by the nose.

I think the fears as for the vaccines can be referred to:

1. the adjuvants – in particular squalene which was in all probability responsible for the Gulf War syndrome,

2. the virus antigen´s condition (dead, attenuated, live)

3. a deeply rooted mistrust in our politicians and the vaccine producers´ motives and morals: e.g. Baxter´s live bird flu virus last Winter (12), the Bayer AIDS haemophiliac product scandal (15).

First it is necessary to understand, that pandemic vaccines are made according to two procedures:

1. The Developement of a totally new vaccine from scratch. This takes more time, administration and testing than mock up vaccines (see below).

2. A Mock-up vaccine is a vaccine with all the adjuvants of the pandemic vaccine – but without the killed or attenuated pandemic virus. (1) This virus is – until the pandemic virus is known – a different, attenuated known potentially pandemic virus, in the case of the Pandemrix vaccine for the EU it is an attenuated H5N1 bird flu virus. This is the mock-up vaccine. When the nature of the pandemic swine flu virus (H1N1) is known, it replaces the H5N1 virus in an attenuated form, the adjuvants being left unchanged.

Until now mock-up vaccine test-vaccinations have been going on on voluntary ”human guinea pigs.” Since most of the contents of the vaccine has already been approved, the approval of the pandemic vaccine is easier to implement.

After the exchange of virus in the vaccine, the company will have to apply for a ”variation”. However, this is just a matter of form, since such a variation approval is given by the EU within 5 days – which means that there is no objective testing of the vaccine requiring official approval. The safety is entirely left to the vaccine producer, who has been granted immunity to actions of damages due to expected side effects (2).

So, as you see, there is no confusion with regard to swine flu and bird flu viruses. But there is another important consideration: the role of squalene.

The average quantity of squalene injected into the US soldiers abroad and at home in the anthrax vaccine during and after the Gulf War was 34.2 micrograms per billion micrograms of water. According to one study, this was the cause othe Gulf War syndrom in 25% of 697.000 US personnel at home and abroad. (3). You can find this table of FDA analyses from the Gulf War lots on The Military Vaccine Resource Directory website (4)

a.. AVA 020 – 11 ppb squalene (parts per billion)

> b.. AVA 030 – 10 ppb squalene

> c.. AVA 038 – 27 ppb squalene

> d.. AVA 043 – 40 ppb squalene

> e.. AVA 047 – 83 ppb squalene

These values were confirmed by Prof. R. F. Garry (5) before the House of Representatives. Prof Garry was the man to discover the connection between the Gulf War syndrome and squalene.

According to his findings, the Gulf War syndrome was caused by squalene, which was banned by a Federal Court Judge in 2004 from the Pentagon´s use. (6)

As seen on p. 6 of this EMEA document (7), the Pandremix vaccine contains 10,68 mg of squalene per 0,5 ml. This corresponds to 2.136.0000 microgrammes pr. billion microgrammes of water, i.e. one million times more squalene per dose than in (4). There is any reason to believe that this will make people sick to a much higher extent than in 1990/91. This appears murderous to me.

I have contacted the Danish National Health Service: They are to decree mass vaccinations in Denmark – and yet they knew nothing about the composition of the Pandremix vaccine.

Then I addressed the Danish Medicinal Agency. They admitted that the Pandremix vaccine from GlaxoSmithKline does contain squalene and thimerosal. They have not rejected my remark that the squalene concentration is dangerous. In contrast, the AstraZeneca MedImmune nasal vaccination (8) avoids squalene side effects.

So far the use of squalene has been banned by the FDA in the US according to Der Spiegel (9). However, this may not last long (10).

“Clearly bypassing the FDA requirements for safety testing of these new adjuvants and the vaccines which contain them puts the entire population at risk for serious, possibly life threatening side effects, particularly any of the 12,000 paid trial participants (6,000 children) who are unfortunate enough to be randomized into the adjuvant containing groups.”

Still, on July 23, 2009, the FDA announced, “Currently, no U.S. licensed vaccine contains the adjuvants MF-59 or ASO3 (squalene). It is expected that a novel influenza A (H1N1) vaccine manufactured using the same process as U.S. licensed seasonal inactivated influenza vaccine but administered with MF-59 or ASO3 will be authorized for emergency use only.”

Furthermore, “Two of the manufacturers (Novartis and GSK) have proprietary oil-in-water adjuvants (MF-59 and ASO3, respectively) which have been evaluated in a number of clinical studies including studies with influenza vaccines. These manufacturers will include an evaluation of the utility of the adjuvant for dose sparing and higher effect in their clinical studies.“

“The same document indicates that vaccines containing the un-approved adjuvants will be given to 100 children 6 months to 3 years old, 100 children 3 years old to 8 years, 100 individuals 18 to 64 years old and 100 individuals 65 and older in each of the multiple clinical trials. In addition, 700 individuals in each trial will be given non-adjuvanted vaccine”.

Now for the immunological side effects of squalene to occur takes months to years – and cannot be evaluated after up to 6 weeks of observation. Der Spiegel (9) calls the mass vaccinations on Europeans a gigantic cost free experiment to provide the FDA with mass vaccination experience to clear the track for sale in the US.

EMEA admits that side effects can only be found through extensive vaccination campaigns! (1).

Here is what EMEA (4) has to say about risks of GSK Pandemrix:

EMEAs Pandemrix is commonly or very commonly associated with a range of local and systemic adverse reactions but these are not often of severe intensity and the safety profile would not preclude the use of the vaccine in healthy adults aged 18-60 years or > 60 years.

However, there are some adverse reactions known to be very rarely associated with influenza vaccines and it is currently not possible to predict if higher rates might be observed with Pandemrix compared with, for example, seasonal influenza vaccines.

Dr Keiji Fukuda, the WHO’s flu chief, today warned about the potential dangers of the untested vaccine (11): “There are certain areas where you simply do not try to make any economies. One of the things which cannot be compromised is the safety of vaccines.”

Which is exactly what is going on!

What I do not know is, if they are going to leave the attenuated (or live – Baxter (12)) bird flu vaccine – or to totally replace it by the H1N1 virus.

Other severe, but rare side effects are autism in children due to thimerosal (13) and the Guillan-Barré syndrome seen with 400-500 Americans after the 1976 unnecessary mass vaccinations against swine flu (14) – videos. As for additional severe side effects of squalene – see Stephen Lendman (15).

My advice: If you are forced to be vaccinated against the harmless swine flu (H1N1) – demand a vaccination with the AstraZeneca nasal vaccine MedImmune (8)– thereby avoiding squalene side effects.

References

(1) EMEA
http://www.emea.europa.eu/pdfs/human/pandemicinfluenza/PandemicVaccines_Q&A_46147609en.pdf

(2) Global Research 20 July
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14453

(3 Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_syndrome

(4) The Military Vaccine Resource Directory
http://www.mvrd.org/showpage.cfm?ID=69 .

(5) Statement for Hearing Record, The House Subcommittee on National Security, Veterans Affairs, and International Relations
http://www.autoimmune.com/SubcommitteeRFGarry24Jan02.html

(6) Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_syndrome

(7) EMEA http://www.emea.europa.eu/humandocs/PDFs/EPAR/pandemrix/H-832-en6.pdf

(8) Reuters http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssHealthcareNews/idUSL11997420090601

(9) Der Spiegel http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,640853-2,00.html

(10) Your Spine http://www.yourspine.com/Chiropractic/Swine+Flu+Squalene+Adjuvant.aspx

(11) The London Evening Standard
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand...+swine+flu+may+be+unsafe+warns+WHO/article.do

(12) The Toronto Sun http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2009/02/27/8560781.html

(13) Global Research 23 July, 2009 http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14510

(14) Video 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFcnneAqnTM

Video 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Bvf9AaC-4

(15) Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg-52mHIjhs

(13) Global Research 23 July 2009 http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14510

(14) 1. video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFcnneAqnTM 2. video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Bvf9AaC-4

(15) Stephen Lendman, Global Research, 10 June, 2009 http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13925

Surveys can be seen here http://euro-med.dk/?p=9152 and here http://euro-med.dk/?p=9895
 

Ben Sunday

Deceased
I had that Swine Flu shot in 1976. Oddly enough, no kickback or side effects of any kind. Most flu shots really hit me extremely hard.

Which is why I have not had any flu shots since that time.
 

eXe

Techno Junkie
Never had a flu shot in my life.. I never saw the need. I tend not to get hyped up about the medical cause du jour these days, the media seems to always be in some panic to get you to race into your doctor for the latest shot or pill.

I probably had the flu once in my life, yeah it sucked, but it was 3 days of annoyance and then I was fine. Why would a perfectly healthy person inject themselves with god knows what for something so inconsequential?

Sorry but I no longer trust these shots everyone "must" get now. Every other day another shot is added to the list, notice how they give them everywhere now, and how cheap they are? I am in the camp of "I don't trust what is in them"
 

bluetick

Inactive
I got a flu shot yesterday. So far, so good - just a little soreness around the injection site. I can't afford to get a respiratory infection because it would send me straight to the hospital - no thanks!
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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I got a flu shot yesterday. So far, so good - just a little soreness around the injection site. I can't afford to get a respiratory infection because it would send me straight to the hospital - no thanks!

I have respiratory issues also and I have gotten a flu shot every year for decades now.

Got my latest flu shot two weeks ago with no issues whatsoever.

Didn't cost us a dime under our insurance.

Crazy IMO not to get a flu shot.

Especially now, I don't want to get "culled" from the herd if I turn up with a temperature at some surprise gov't checkpoint one day during an Ebola or other disease outbreak.

I consider a flu shot and a pneumonia shot just like any other kind of prep.
 

SuElPo

Veteran Member
The flu kills tens of thousands more people per year than Ebola ever thought about. If you are over 60 and especially if you are in poor health, it can and may well kill you. I'm 67 and in great health but 4 years ago the flu landed me in the ER after fighting it at home with home remedies for a week. Everyone thinks every virus they catch is the flu. Not so. I'm talking about influenza verified by lab tests. That's a whole different ballgame. Thanks, but I now get the shots and have not had it again nor do I want it. If you get the REAL influenza and do not have someone in the house to take care of you, good luck. No way are you able to care for yourself.

I agree. In my 20's I had the real confirmed flu that hit me and my son so fast it was unbelievable. I could not endure that now at 61 with lupus, and sjogren's. I had my flu shot 2 weeks ago, and so did my husband.
 

Mysty

Veteran Member
This guy from John Hopkins says the mercury suppresses the immune system and while the shot doesn't give anyone the flu, they often get it due to the additive in the shot. I enjoyed this article by a straight shooter doctor.

Johns Hopkins Scientist Slams Flu Vaccine

A Johns Hopkins scientist has issued a blistering report on influenza vaccines in the British Medical Journal (BMJ). Peter Doshi, Ph.D., charges that although the vaccines are being pushed on the public in unprecedented numbers, they are less effective and cause more side effects than alleged by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Further, says Doshi, the studies that underlie the CDC's policy of encouraging most people to get a yearly flu shot are often low quality studies that do not substantiate the official claims.

Promoting influenza vaccines is one of the most visible and aggressive public health policies in the United States, says Doshi of the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine. Drug companies and public officials press for widespread vaccination each fall, offering vaccinations in drugstores and supermarkets. The results have been phenomenal. Only 20 years ago, 32 million doses of influenza vaccine were available in the United States on an annual basis. Today, the total has skyrocketed to 135 million doses.

"The vaccine may be less beneficial and less safe than has been claimed, and the threat of influenza seems to be overstated," Doshi says. Mandatory vaccination polices have been enacted, often in healthcare facilities, forcing some people to take the vaccine under threat of losing their jobs.

The main assertion of the CDC that fuels the push for flu vaccines each year is that influenza comes with a risk of serious complications which can cause death, especially in senior citizens and those suffering from chronic illnesses. That's not the case, said Doshi.

When read carefully, the CDC acknowledges that studies finding any perceived reduction in death rates may be due to the "healthy-user effect" — the tendency for healthier people to be vaccinated more than less-healthy people. The only randomized trial of influenza vaccine in older people found no decrease in deaths. "This means that influenza vaccines are approved for use in older people despite any clinical trials demonstrating a reduction in serious outcomes," says Doshi.
Even when the vaccine is closely matched to the type of influenza that's prevalent, which doesn't happen every year, randomized, controlled trials of healthy adults found that vaccinating between 33 and 100 people resulted in one less case of influenza. In addition, says Doshi, no evidence exists to show that this reduction in the risk of influenza for a specific population — here in the United States, among healthy adults, for example — extrapolates into any reduced risk of serious complications from influenza, such as hospitalizations or deaths, among seniors.

"For most people, and possibly most doctors, officials need only claim that vaccines save lives, and it is assumed there must be solid research behind it," says Doshi. Unfortunately, that's not the case, he says.

Although the CDC implies that flu vaccines are safe and there's no need to weigh benefits against risk, Doshi disagrees. He points to an Australian study that found one in every 110 children under the age of five had convulsions following vaccinations in 2009 for H1N1 influenza. Additional investigations found that the H1N1 vaccine was also associated with a spike in cases of narcolepsy among adolescents.

Doshi's concerns echo those of Dr. Russell Blaylock, a neurosurgeon and author of "The Blaylock Wellness Report" who has deep concerns over the safety and efficacy of the flu vaccine.

Not only is the vaccine not safe, Dr. Blaylock tells Newsmax Health, it doesn't even work. "The vaccine is completely worthless, and the government knows it," he says. "There are three reasons the government tells the elderly why they should get flu shots: secondary pneumonia, hospitalization, and death. Yet a study by the Cochrane group studied hundreds of thousands of people and found it offered zero protection for those three things in the general community. It offered people in nursing homes some immunity against the flu — at best one-third — but that was only if they picked the right vaccine."

A study released in February found that the flu shot was only 9 percent effective in protecting seniors against the 2012-2013 season's most virulent influenza bug.
What's even worse is that small children who are given the flu vaccine get no protection from the disease. "The government also says that every baby over the age of six months should have a vaccine, and they know it contains a dose of mercury that is toxic to the brain," says Dr. Blaylock. "They also know the studies have shown that the flu vaccine has zero — zero — effectiveness in children under five."

For most people, says Dr. Blaylock, flu vaccines don't prevent the flu but actually increase the odds of getting it. The mercury contained in vaccines is such a strong immune depressant that a flu shot suppresses immunity for several weeks. "This makes people highly susceptible to catching the flu," he says. "They may even think the vaccine gave them the flu, but that's not true — it depressed their immune system and then they caught the flu."

Mercury overstimulates the brain for several years, says Dr. Blaylock, and that activation is the cause of Alzheimer's and other degenerative diseases. One study found that those who get the flu vaccine for three to five years increase their risk of Alzheimer's disease 10-fold.

Doshi asserts that influenza is a case of "disease mongering" in an effort to expand markets. He points to the fact that deaths from flu declined sharply during the middle of the 20th century, long before the huge vaccine campaigns that kicked off the 21st century.

Why do drug companies push the flu vaccine? "It's all about money," says Dr. Blaylock. "Vaccines are a pharmaceutical company's dream. They have a product that both the government and the media will help them sell, and since vaccines are protected, they can't be sued if anyone has a complication."

Doshi's article "is a breath of fresh air," says Dr. Blaylock. "This article exposes in well-defined and articulate terms what has been known for a long time — the flu vaccine promotion is a fraud.

"Here's the bottom line," says Dr. Blaylock. "The vast number of people who get the flu vaccine aren't going to get any benefit, but they get all of the risks and complications."


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