CORONA Main Coronavirus thread

psychgirl

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Glenn Beck right now, talking about shortages and the econ failing due to virus, China.


Right now it’s India that’s taking the fall according to him, especially shortages. He just said aspirin is already.... 400x more expensive in India.

No link, typing fast listening to radio. Show tomorrow will have a lot more. Plans on having a longer report tomorrow.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
Global Times‏Verified account @globaltimesnews 20m20 minutes ago

323 people suffering from severe mental disorder have been infected with #COVID19 in 17 provinces of China, with 43 suspected cases. The patients are mainly located in epicenter #Wuhan and other cities in #Hubei Province, including Xiaogan and Huanggang.
wonderful . . . now tell me . . . was the severe mental disorder caused by the virus?
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
So what do you suppose happens when our at-promise-youths encounter this world?

Nothing good, I'm reasonably sure of that one.

So what do you suppose happens when our at-promise-youths encounter this world?

well since this is the night for dreams: maybe it will be that brush with reality and it's bitter bite that their poorly prepared selves have lacked...and like the adversity that shaped, honed and brought into being our previous generations' resolve and character, they will be changed for the good.

It could happen. It will happen, the question is only, will it be to tens or hundreds or ??? In all the wailing and gnashing o' teeth, we may have forgotten that thing someone somewhere once said 'bout something "what we need is something with tears for a change. Nothing costs enough here.”

It's a possibility, I suppose, but I'd sooner go with the much more likely possibility of "they'll meet the worst kind of resistance and the at-promise youth will go down with their ship."
 

northern watch

TB Fanatic
Global Times‏Verified account @globaltimesnews 3h3 hours ago

The govt of Beijing's Xicheng district confirmed on Tuesday that one of its government employees has been infected with #COVID-19, causing 69 more in quarantine, but denied rumors that the infection case has led to a shutdown of the district government.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
Severe mental disorder = dissidents.
actually . . . I was being somewhat serious because I read (somewhere) that the government there was working on a virus for Hong Cong that would create some level of retardation (to use against dissidents) AND I also read that the decrease in oxygen levels in the blood to the brain was causing cognitive difficulties.
Wouldn't it be a kicker if what don't kill ya makes you stupider. Who is going to operate all those factories and nuclear plants if everyone is mildly brain damaged.
 

Trivium Pursuit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The wet market is 900 feet from the lab. Occam's Razor says it was a $2-a-day security guard selling lab animals for some $$$ on the side. Or, classic Chinese lack-of-quality in their BSL4 procedures.

IF, this was a "Bio-attack", it was a really crappy one.
Translation: When a 3rd world country tries to play 1st world games, bad things happen.
 
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Trivium Pursuit

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PanBear

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Greybeard7

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Covid-19: Wuhan starts three-day door-to-door screening campaign
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    Inspectors visiting a home for a household survey at the Zhongda community in the Jianghan district of Wuhan, Hubei province on Feb 17, 2020. - China Daily/ANN

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WUHAN (China Daily/ANN): Authorities in Wuhan, the epicentre of the novel coronavirus pneumonia outbreak in Hubei province, launched a three-day campaign on Monday (Feb 17)to screen people in order to leave no one unattended and curb the spread of the contagion.

The screening work came after the city issued a public notice on Friday that required all residential communities to be locked down and reduce people's movement to limit transmission of the disease.

All residential communities throughout the city are required to be checked door-to-door to identify infected people, suspected cases and those who have close contact with infected people, Wang Zhonglin, Party secretary of Wuhan, said at a video conference on Sunday.

Wang urged officials to be highly responsible for people's health, and "leave no household, no one behind "during the screening process.

Fever patients, people who have had close contact with confirmed cases and suspected cases of infections must receive nucleic acid tests in a timely manner while those with confirmed cases must be hospitalized, he added.

On Monday, while chairing a meeting on epidemic prevention and control, Wang called for efforts to provide more beds to hospitals to admit more patients. He told officials attending the meeting that every effort must be made to improve the admission and recovery rates and reduce the infection and mortality rates.

While stressing that violations of the regulations on the community lockdown will be punished, Wang also underlined the need to improve the commodity delivery systems to guarantee the supply of daily necessities to residents.

Acting on government instructions, residential communities have strengthened control of their entrances. Tian Ming, head of a neighborhood committee in Wuhan East Lake High-Tech Development Zone, organized 30 community workers to do screening from early Monday morning.

"We have 1,315 households in the community. We will visit them door-to-door, learning how many people there are in the homes, noting their telephone numbers, checking their temperatures and taking note of whether they have health problems,"Tian told China Daily.

The community workers operate in shifts to provide round-the-clock services to the residents to ensure they can be reached at any time for assistance in health problems or supplies of daily necessities, he said.

Wang Qiong, Party secretary of the Zhongda community in the city's Hanjiang district, said the community has a massive floating population due to its proximity to markets.

As many people returned to their homes before Lunar New Year, 1,159 people in 644 households in the community have been reached to identify their health condition by making calls, contacting them on WeChat or sending messages by mobile phone, Wang said, adding that seniors or people with disabilities would be reached by home visits.

Wu Hanyun, a 62-year-old man living in the community with his wife, said that he understands the lockdown of communities in the city.

"The fact that we are not going outdoors is our contribution to the nation's efforts to combat the novel coronavirus pneumonia," he told China Daily by phone.

Wu said the community workers help his family a lot with daily necessities.

"I believe we can triumph over the difficulties through united efforts. Stay strong, Wuhan!" he added.

- China Daily/Asia News Network

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I guess I've been reading about nCoV19 too much. My first thought on seeing this is that they're not going door to door to check temperatures. I think they MAY be going door to door to check for dead bodies. You certainly don't want to leave dead bodies laying around too long, and some of those apartment buildings they've sealed up could be smelling pretty bad if they have a bunch of bodies that have been dead for several days.
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
I think they MAY be going door to door to check for dead bodies. You certainly don't want to leave dead bodies laying around too long, and some of those apartment buildings they've sealed up could be smelling pretty bad if they have a bunch of bodies that have been dead for several days.

Wonder what they'll show for cause of death. Maybe loneliness.
 

cyberiot

Rimtas žmogus
Another boots on the ground report, and I'm sure Sherree will add more.

Our normal shopping day was yesterday (17th) all the shelves were full, at our local Walmart. The one we were most worried about was the dog's treats which are all made in China. I told Frisco before we left that he might have to go on half rations, before we left, and he snarled his nose at me. So am thankful that not only did they have his treats, but the shelves were full.

That is until we went through like a whirlwind and cleaned them out. LOL Little boy will be happy for a while.

Which tells you exactly who rules the roost.

However on another note: Over at zerohedge Walmart is reporting slower SALES than expected (not inventory).

Tell Frisco that Sydney, the border heeler who rules OUR roost, highly recommends Stewart Pro-Treat freeze-dried liver, made in USA and available from Amazon.
 

SouthernBreeze

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Tell Frisco that Sydney, the border heeler who rules OUR roost, highly recommends Stewart Pro-Treat freeze-dried liver, made in USA and available from Amazon.

We're looking for recommendations for Frisco's treats outside of China. I didn't know his were made there, until I checked when shortages began to be mentioned. We have always bought them at Walmart. I don't want to have to make them from scratch.
 

PanBear

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Trivium Pursuit

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We talked bout the book, and the poor dr :*( upthread... think we had a link for a free online version of the book there, too, ifin yas want to add to your doomageddon stash! I got my copy LOLOL, gonna read it while watching contagion. For realz.
(probably hiding under my covers for realz, too!!) : )
Share link to free online version of Koontz' book please..
 

Trivium Pursuit

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(fair use applies)

Coronavirus could impact 5 million companies worldwide, new research shows
Published Mon, Feb 17 20209:07 AM EST | Updated 14 min ago
Elliot Smith

Key Points
  • A special briefing issued by global business research firm Dun & Bradstreet analyzed the Chinese provinces most impacted by the virus, and found they are intricately linked to the global business network
  • Almost half (49%) of the companies with subsidiaries in impacted regions are headquartered in Hong Kong, while the U.S. accounts for 19%, Japan 12% and Germany 5%.
  • Dun & Bradstreet researchers found that at least 51,000 companies worldwide, 163 of which are in the Fortune 1000, have one or more direct or “tier 1” suppliers in the impacted region.
The new coronavirus outbreak and subsequent shutdown of huge swathes of China could impact more than 5 million businesses worldwide, according to a new study.

A special briefing issued by global data analytics firm Dun & Bradstreet analyzed the Chinese provinces most impacted by the virus, and found they are intricately linked to the global business network.

The affected areas with 100 or more confirmed cases as of February 5 are home to more than 90% of all active businesses in China, according to the report, and around 49,000 businesses in these regions are branches and subsidiaries of foreign companies.

Almost half (49%) of the companies with subsidiaries in impacted regions are headquartered in Hong Kong, while the U.S. accounts for 19%, Japan 12% and Germany 5%.

As of Monday, over 70,000 cases of the virus have been confirmed in China, resulting in 1,770 deaths, according to the Chinese National Health Commission.

Dun & Bradstreet researchers found that at least 51,000 companies worldwide, 163 of which are in the Fortune 1000, have one or more direct or “tier 1” suppliers in the impacted region, while at least 5 million — and 938 in the Fortune 1000 — have one or more “tier 2" suppliers.

The impact on businesses in China and around the world is already dragging down economic growth forecasts for the year.

In a research note published Monday, Moody’s revised down its global growth forecasts by two-tenths of a percentage point, expecting G-20 economies to collectively grow at an annual rate of 2.4% in 2020 with China slipping to 5.2%.

This assumes a baseline forecast that the spread of the virus is contained by the end of the first quarter, restoring “normal economic activity” in the second quarter. However, the global economic toll would be “severe” if the rate of infection and rising death toll do not abate, with international supply chain disruptions amplifying the shock.

“There is already evidence albeit anecdotal - that supply chains are being disrupted, including outside China. Furthermore, extended lockdowns in China would have a global impact given the country’s importance and interconnectedness in the global economy,” Moody’s Vice President Madhavi Bokil said in the research note.

The Dun & Bradstreet report identified that the top five major sectors, accounting for more than 80% of businesses within impacted provinces, were services, wholesale trade, manufacturing, retail and financial services.

Dun & Bradstreet hypothesized that a major portion of Chinese employment and sales originate from companies within the impacted region.

The impacted provinces of, for instance, Guangdong, Jiangsu, Zhejiang, Beijing and Shandong account for 50% of total employment and 48% of total sales volume for the Chinese economy.

The Chinese economy constitutes around 20% of global GDP (gross domestic product) and analysts estimated that if containment of the outbreak is delayed beyond the summer, the “cascading effect” might cause a drag of around one percentage point on global GDP growth.

“No matter which scenario plays out, the Hubei region, China, and the global economy are indicated to see a churn in their business population and some lackluster employment and revenue growth in the near-term,” the company said in the report.

“When (not if) containment and eradication is achieved, factors within the impacted geography are bound to generate economic activity with consumers, satisfying pent-up demand once improved conditions are underway. The sum of the efforts to revitalize the region will place the global economy back on track for sustained growth.”
Which highlights the question I asked a long time ago in this thread and no one has addressed. What effects this is going to have on those explosive financial bombs that we have lying around called derivatives? Can anyone please take a crack at addressing this?
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
What effects this is going to have on those explosive financial bombs that we have lying around called derivatives? Can anyone please take a crack at addressing this?

The financial/economic system has been pathologically brittle for years. Even a mild shock could have imploded it. I'm not complacent about its prospects.
 

psychgirl

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actually . . . I was being somewhat serious because I read (somewhere) that the government there was working on a virus for Hong Cong that would create some level of retardation (to use against dissidents) AND I also read that the decrease in oxygen levels in the blood to the brain was causing cognitive difficulties.
Wouldn't it be a kicker if what don't kill ya makes you stupider. Who is going to operate all those factories and nuclear plants if everyone is mildly brain damaged.
The article you are referring the retardation is major Woo, comes from an online fiction writing forum.
 

Trivium Pursuit

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Couple diagnosed with coronavirus flew on Delta, Hawaiian Airlines flights, carriers confirm
By Janine Puhak | Fox News

US coronavirus plan would evacuate some Americans from quarantined cruise ship
Hundreds of Americans quarantined on a cruise ship, for more than a week due to a coronavirus outbreak on board will have the chance to evacuate, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention according to a report; Fox News medical contributor Dr. Marc Siegel weighs in.

Delta Air Lines and Hawaiian Airlines have confirmed that a couple diagnosed with the coronavirus traveled on their flights in and around Hawaii earlier this month.

On Feb. 6, the couple, a husband and wife from Japan who are reportedly in their 60s, departed from Honolulu for Nagoya, Japan, on Delta flight 611, KHON2 reports. The State Department of Health [DOH] said that the couple previously arrived in the Aloha State on Jan. 28 and spent time in Maui until Feb. 3. That day, the couple traveled from Kahului to Honolulu on the island of Oahu on Hawaiian Airlines flight HA265, the airline confirmed.

In Oahu, the husband and wife stayed at the Grand Waikikian by Hilton Grand Vacations. It remains unclear at this time on which airline they traveled to Hawaii on and where they stayed while in Maui.

On Feb. 3, the husband began experiencing “cold-like symptoms,” KHON2 reports. After returning home to Japan, he was hospitalized with a high fever, diagnosed with pneumonia and then tested positive for COVID-19, the World Health Organization’s official name for the illness.

On Feb. 13, the wife was reportedly hospitalized and tested for the coronavirus. She was ultimately diagnosed with the virus on Feb. 15.
Delta and Hawaiian Airlines have both since confirmed they are communicating with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in the wake of the couple’s recent coronavirus diagnosis.
On Feb. 6, the couple from Japan departed Honolulu for Nagoya, Japan, on Delta flight 611.

On Feb. 6, the couple from Japan departed Honolulu for Nagoya, Japan, on Delta flight 611. (iStock)

“We are aware of reports that two customers who are being treated for novel coronavirus (2019-nCOV) recently traveled together between Honolulu and Nagoya and we are communicating with the appropriate public health officials, including [the] CDC and local Japanese authorities,” a Delta spokesperson said. “The health and safety of our customers and crews is our top priority, and in cooperation with Japanese health officials, we are proactively reaching out to customers who were onboard that flight as well as taking the necessary steps to ensure the safety of our customers and crew.
Could we have any confidence that the Delta plane going from Japan to Hawaii and back is only used on International routes? Outside the US?
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!

Trivium Pursuit

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We still don't know what, if any, racial affinity Coronavirus may have. Assuming it affects all races equally I believe it will go through Africa like a scythe. I further believe that there are already unreported cases in Africa (beyond the single case reported in Eqypt very recently).

Africa's poor general infrastructure and - specifically - poor medical infrastructure guarantees that any cases will be late to be discovered. late to be treated and late to be quarantined. It has the makings to be a Biblical-level disaster. Additionally, I would expect many Africans to intentionally hide the fact that they were carrying the disease and to avoid compliance with quarantines mandated by the authorities.

The news will be slow to come out of Africa, but I daily expect to hear that a massive epidemic is underway there.

Best
Doc
Remember, it appears that it has smoker affinity rather than racial affinity. and 49% of Chinese males smoke. there is also more smoking in the African population than the United States, but I don't think nearly as much as Chinese do.
 
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