WEATHER Severe Weather the Week of January 8th 2024 - Near Blizzard Conditions In The Upper Midwest Fri. 1/12/24

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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It’s days Iike this that remind me that my great grandfather and those before him were better men than me.

We heat with just a wood stove, of course we have back up space heaters & portable LP we can fall back on in an emergency, but feeding pine every 2 hours into the stove is like feeding a hungry alligator - it never ends.

No hardwood available?
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
No, not really…not out here.

I occasionally get cottonwood, but this is lodgepole and ponderosa pine area mostly.

I guess I could buy some, but we get our own wood and pine is what’s 95% available.

Plus, when I do see hardwood offered for sale, like a week or two ago…they wanted $400 a cord for it!
That’s about what a cord of quality hardwood is going for here locally
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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I can't even begin to imagine attending a game in this kind of weather. Four hours is a very long time unless you have top quality gear and are in good physical condition.

I've done some December goose hunting from a blind in some forlorn farm field when it was around 6F and a steady wind. Fortunately, in my folding shooting chair, I had the nylon G.I. poncho that I always carry afield. It made a very welcome windbreak in the chicken wire blind I was sitting in.

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Wind gusts for Steelers-Bills could be among highest ever for NFL game

By Mike Florio
Published January 13, 2024 09:13 AM

The snow in Buffalo this weekend is one thing. The wind is another.

Via USA Today, the projected gusts of up to 50 miles per hour would put Steelers-Bills among the windiest games in league history.

The 1982 AFC Championship between the Chargers and Bengals in Cincinnati, which was played in a deep freeze, had wind gusts in excess of 50 miles per hour. The December 2021 Monday night game between the Patriots and Bills in Buffalo had winds, per USA Today, gusting up to 55 miles per hour. (The official NFL game book says the gusts were up to only 40 mph for the Patriots-Bills game.)

In 2021, the Patriots threw only three passes for the entire contest. Bills quarterback Josh Allen threw 10 in the first half, and 20 in the second. He completed 15 in all. Allen has the arm to muscle the ball through the wind. Which allows the Bills to be a little more diverse on offense.

Still, it’s hardly ideal to play in such conditions. It’s one of the realities of having an open-air stadium in a climate where winter happens.

Winter is going to happen in a major way in Kansas City on Saturday and Buffalo on Sunday. The other three games to be played the next two days will be played indoors.

 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
No hardwood available?
I have a soft spot for pine fires. Sure, it burns fast, but nothing smells as good, and it sure puts on the best snap, crackle, pop light show in the bidiness. When I was a pup, about all we had growing on the place to burn was pine or popple (aspen) :lol: and that's even worse for burning like paper. Getting up to feed the fire a couple times/night builds character...
 
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Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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Forecast goes from bad to worse for Buffalo on Sunday

By Mike Florio
Published January 12, 2024 09:41 PM

The NFL has not one but two potential weather issues for wild-card weekend. And the situation in Buffalo keeps getting worse.

The National Weather Service has warned that "[h]eavy lake effect snow bands with gusty winds will occur east of Lake Erie and Lake Ontario Saturday through Sunday night,” and that snow bands will impact Buffalo.

“Travel will be difficult to near impossible within snow bands,” the NWS said.

Meanwhile, New York governor Kathy Hochul has declared a state of emergency for the region.

The NFL has previously said there are no plans to move the game. Plans might have to change, if they hope to get the game played.

And if the game isn’t moved, the conditions could make it hard for the cameras to capture the action, according to Jim Cantore of The Weather Channel.

We’ve asked the NFL again whether plans have changed. At some point, it could be too late to change them.

 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Well, it’s officially ugly now here in Indiana.
The winds woke me up at 4:30…..we don’t have much snow but it’s covered the ground and I’m sure all that rain has frozen everything into a block of ice. Trees bending, just nasty. 18d and dropping lower (I’m not sure what the wind chill is )

DH left me a note on the counter saying that he’ll drive me to work this morning.
My little G6 doesn’t fare well on ice and he knows it terrifies me.

I can’t believe we have a full schedule at work lol but (?) we do! Sick pets gotta be tended to.

Thank God we’re only open today 9-1pm

Edit: wind chill is 2degrees

You're an essential worker! *I'd* drive you to work, too. Thanks for all you do!

It's something like a -20 wind chill in Central Iowa. I went out for a few minutes to walk around the house and check the furnace exhaust, gas riser, and clear the drift from in front of the garage door. It's still windy. We have a blizzard warning until 6 pm. Everything is pretty much shut down here, other than the Casey's (Per Facebook -- I didn't go there to see).
 

Sacajawea

Has No Life - Lives on TB
It’s days Iike this that remind me that my great grandfather and those before him were better men than me.

We heat with just a wood stove, of course we have back up space heaters & portable LP we can fall back on in an emergency, but feeding pine every 2 hours into the stove is like feeding a hungry alligator - it never ends.

Keep an eye on your chimney if you're burning pine - worst creator of creosote out there!
 

anna43

Veteran Member
NW Central Iowa. East/West highway closed overnight. Travel not advised in entire area. The drift in front of my house has reached 4'. Wind chills at -31 degrees, temp is -3. High today predicted as zero. I think my street has been plowed and my driveway was -- except for high drift right in front of garage. Got to find someone to snow-blow or shovel out in front of the house and garage in a couple days. Hibernation is the name of the game -- mine anyway.
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
All of North Mississippi is under a winter storm watch til Tuesday. Forecast of .25 inches of ice with 1-3 inches of snow. Single digits to 11 degrees for our lows and only 20's for our highs. The next week doesn't look any better temp wise. We're ready for it. Cary went out and drained all of our rain barrels and double winterized our main water tank this morning. 38 and sunny right now.
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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This playoff game is still on in Kansas City, Missouri, tonight.

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Ticket prices plummet for Dolphins-Chiefs playoff game with bitter cold temperatures in the forecast

You can attend Saturday's Dolphins-Chiefs playoff game for just $50, but be prepared for brutally cold conditions

Charles McDonald
NFL writer
Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 6:48 PM CST·3 min read

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — The weather outside is frightful in Kansas City as gusts of wind and snow pair with rapidly dropping temperatures that will cause Saturday's wild-card playoff game between the Kansas City Chiefs and Miami Dolphins to be played in below-freezing temperatures. The projections from weather services expect the game to be played at potential temperatures of 10 degrees below zero, with wind chill pushing it to 20-to-30 below and making this one of the coldest games in the history of the NFL.

The NFL has no intention of moving the game due to the weather, and it must be impacting the ticket prices for the game because right now Chiefs tickets are mightily cheap as the team sets out to have a sold-out stadium on Saturday.

Most ticket resale websites have prices in the upper bowl of the stadium for around $50, while tickets in the lower bowl can be found for roughly $200-250. Mind you, this is for a playoff game featuring Patrick Mahomes and the reigning Super Bowl champion Chiefs taking on arguably the most explosive offense in the league. Of course, this all makes perfect sense. Sitting around in temperatures that cold is a legitimate hazard to the human body, and paying to do so would be a hard sell for many people, especially when they can sit comfortably at home and watch the game instead.

According to The Weather Channel, Saturday's game is projected to feature a constant 13 mph wind that will keep temperatures below zero through the end of the game. Going to this game isn’t an easy choice, even for the most die-hard Chiefs fans. Understandably so, as there are potential health risks that come with sitting outside in that level of cold for that long.

If the temperature Saturday in Kansas City does drop into negative numbers, the game will join just four other NFL playoff games ever contested in sub-zero temperatures.

1967 NFL Championship (-13 degrees): The Packers beat the Cowboys 21-17 at Lambeau Field in the Ice Bowl.

1981 AFC Championship (-9 degrees): The Bengals beat the Chargers 27-7 at home in the Freezer Bowl.

2015 NFC Wild Card Game (-6 degrees): The Seahawks beat the Vikings 10-9 at the University of Minnesota's stadium while U.S. Bank Stadium was under construction.

2007 NFC Championship (-3 degrees): The Giants beat the Packers 23-20 at Lambeau in a game best remembered for Tom Coughlin's frozen face.

For the people who do want to go, tickets are affordable enough to make that happen. At this point, it’ll be interesting to see if the Chiefs have a full stadium for this playoff game, something that has been a guarantee for seemingly every other home playoff game.

To the people who are going: Stay warm, stay safe, bundle up and get home. Getting Chiefs playoffs tickets is easy right now for a reason.

 
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